Washington DC gives Christians middle finger ; upholds gay marriage
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[QUOTE=Kybalt;20547694][I]I don't really pay attention to things like that[/I]- So you risk your all eternal soul as you believe it to be, on "I don't really pay attention to things like that."
[I]All that i do is slightly believe in a God and Heaven and that sins can be forgiven.[/I]- How the fuck do you slightly believe something? It's like saying I slightly believe in Santa Clause, makes no fucking sense.
Ain't no where in the bible does it say you can pick and choose which parts to listen to, so either you don't believe it, or you completely lack sense. If I believed that there was an eternity of hellfire waiting for me unless I followed some arbitrary rules from a book, you damn well better believe I would follow that shit to the letter.[/QUOTE]
That' why i am a [I]Loose[/I] Christian. I believe in God and that is all there is really to it. I don't go on raging rants about banning homosexuals cause it is a sin. (So i've been told)
And by "slightly believing" i mean i believe in this but i am a bit uncertain.
[QUOTE=Kybalt;20547560]Do tell what other arguments there are.[/QUOTE]
One argument is ruining a tradition, breaking off from a "Mos Maiorum". Another one is it promotes bad behavior, and turns kids gay.
[QUOTE=KillaGunna24;20547788]That' why i am a [I]Loose[/I] Christian. I believe in God and that is all there is really to it. I don't go on raging rants about banning homosexuals cause it is a sin. (So i've been told)[/QUOTE]
Do you also believe in Christ or just God alone?
[QUOTE=zombiefreak;20547809]One argument is ruining a tradition, breaking off from a "Mos Maiorum". Another one is it promotes bad behavior, and turns kids gay.[/QUOTE]
...Yeah, but... those aren't argument so much as empty assertions.
[QUOTE=Fables;20547817]Do you also believe in Christ or just God alone?[/QUOTE]
I am unsure of this.
[QUOTE=KillaGunna24;20547788]That' why i am a [I]Loose[/I] Christian. I believe in God and that is all there is really to it. I don't go on raging rants about banning homosexuals cause it is a sin. (So i've been told)
And by "slightly believing" i mean i believe in this but i am a bit uncertain.[/QUOTE]
Still not making any sense. Being a loose Christian makes no sense, I don't see how so many people see it as something you can be in between about, as the bible pretty clearly spells out exactly how shit should be done.
And being a little uncertain still makes no sense, like being uncertain about the existence of unicorns.
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[QUOTE=zombiefreak;20547809]One argument is ruining a tradition, breaking off from a "Mos Maiorum". Another one is it promotes[B] bad behavior[/B], and turns kids gay.[/QUOTE]
First point is an appeal to tradition logical fallacy, second point lacks any evidence, third point is completely irrelevant if homosexuality isn't bad.
(I know these aren't your views, just saying)
[QUOTE=KillaGunna24;20547848]I am unsure of this.[/QUOTE]
Christians believe in Christ, if you believe in a god alone you're not Christian.
You can believe in fruit is a god, but as long as Christ is somehow worshiped in there, you're considered Christian.
[QUOTE=Fables;20547915]Christians believe in Christ, if you believe in a god alone you're not Christian.
You can believe in fruit is a god, but as long as Christ is somehow worshiped in there, you're considered Christian.[/QUOTE]
if i believe in christ then go around saying "JESUS CHRIST WAS A FUCKING HOMO FAG BITCH" and denounced christianity as much as i can
am i christian?
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;20547945]if i believe in christ then go around saying "JESUS CHRIST WAS A FUCKING HOMO FAG BITCH" and denounced christianity as much as i can
am i christian?[/QUOTE]
ask a priest
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;20547945]if i believe in christ then go around saying "JESUS CHRIST WAS A FUCKING HOMO FAG BITCH" and denounced christianity as much as i can
am i christian?[/QUOTE]
Government will consider you Christian when doing a survey for population of religions.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;20547945]if i believe in christ then go around saying "JESUS CHRIST WAS A FUCKING HOMO FAG BITCH" and denounced christianity as much as i can
am i christian?[/QUOTE]
A little extreme but if i do believe so that can be forgiven.
[QUOTE=KillaGunna24;20547788]That' why i am a [I]Loose[/I] Christian. I believe in God and that is all there is really to it. I don't go on raging rants about banning homosexuals cause it is a sin. (So i've been told)
And by "slightly believing" i mean i believe in this but i am a bit uncertain.[/QUOTE]
What part of you is christian then? There are other religions that believe in god and heaven.
Killa come be agnostic with me.
[QUOTE=dryer-lint;20548086]Killa come be agnostic with me.[/QUOTE]
Ahh now i understand. I am agnostic.
[QUOTE=KillaGunna24;20548210]Ahh now i understand. I am agnostic.[/QUOTE]
Still makes no sense. I think that agnosticism is something that's implied. If you're an atheist and you claim to know that god doesn't exist, you're just as conceded as the fanatic that knows he exists. It's impossible to know anything for sure, so agnosticism, a little chance of being wrong or uncertain exists in everything. With atheism, it's come to a logical conclusion that since there is no evidence for god, that it makes sense to not believe in one. With belief in god, it comes from "seeing" some personal evidence or fallacious reasoning, coming to the conclusion that god probably exists. Being agnostic about the existence of god is still like saying you're agnostic about the existence of Zeus/<Mythological Creature>/Bigfoot.
[QUOTE=Kybalt;20547588]I still don't understand how Christians can believe in god and the bible, yet pick and choose which parts to listen to, which parts are supposed to be a "moral lesson" and which parts are supposed to be fact. Honestly, it's so ridiculous.[/QUOTE]
Being a "good" or "bad" Christian depends on what's applicable in society. Retards who argue against the biggest fallacies in the Bible don't realize that virtually no one follows them. There's good portions of the book, and there's the bad.
In my opinion, most Christians I've known don't even look at the most of the Bible, mostly just the Gospels (and for the better, too.)
[QUOTE=Flitchaye;20548297]Being a "good" or "bad" Christian depends on what's applicable in society. [B]Retards who argue against the biggest fallacies in the Bible don't realize that virtually no one follows them.[/B] There's good portions of the book, and there's the bad.
In my opinion, most Christians I've known don't even look at the most of the Bible, mostly just the Gospels (and for the better, too.)[/QUOTE]
Can you elaborate here?
[QUOTE=Kybalt;20548320]Can you elaborate here?[/QUOTE]
Leviticus is pretty much everything that falls in that category. Whether it be women doing sin offers every time she has her period, adulterers being put to death, slaves being flogged for their owner's sins, etc.
Deuteronomy is also like this. A bride not being a virgin must die, a virgin raped in the city is perfectly okay, a woman's hand cut off for handling a penis, a dude whose testicles don't function can't go to church, and so on. I can't be arsed to find the actual verses in the Bible, but you can see for yourself.
Tell me a Christian who follows those rules.
[QUOTE=Flitchaye;20548437]Leviticus is pretty much everything that falls in that category. Whether it be women doing sin offers every time she has her period, adulterers being put to death, slaves being flogged for their owner's sins, etc.
Deuteronomy is also like this. A bride not being a virgin must die, a virgin raped in the city is perfectly okay, a woman's hand cut off for handling a penis, a dude whose testicles don't function can't go to church, and so on. I can't be arsed to find the actual verses in the Bible, but you can see for yourself.
[B]Tell me a Christian who follows those rules.[/B][/QUOTE]
They don't and it makes no sense because their religion dictates that they do otherwise they go to hell, yet they pick and choose which makes no sense.
This isn't terribly relevant but I'd just like to point out that agnosticism is not a belief in itself
you can be atheist agnostic and you can be christian agnostic and you can be muslim agnostic etc.
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I myself am atheist agnostic
[QUOTE=Kybalt;20548499]They don't and it makes no sense because their religion dictates that they do otherwise they go to hell, yet they pick and choose which makes no sense.[/QUOTE]
It also states no matter how hard they try its impossible for them to follow the rules and that's why Jesus died for them.
[QUOTE=KaIibos;20548849]This isn't terribly relevant but I'd just like to point out that agnosticism is not a belief in itself
you can be atheist agnostic and you can be christian agnostic and you can be muslim agnostic etc.
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I myself am atheist agnostic[/QUOTE]
I went over this on the last page, it's impossible to know anything for certain therefore agnosticism is implied in everything.
I hate how the US supposedly calls itself the land of the free, and yet they can't even let gay people marry eachother. What the shit? That's not very free in my opinion...
Homos make me sick,I'm not a homophobe, but the thought of man on man makes me sick to the core. 1 less reason for me to move to America
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[QUOTE=Kybalt;20548499]They don't and it makes no sense because their religion dictates that they do otherwise they go to hell, yet they pick and choose which makes no sense.[/QUOTE]
And on your death bed, you can just say Fuck! Shit! Dam! Sorry Jesus, I messed up. And still get into heaven.
I might make a prayer to every god on my deathbed, just in case.
Including Zeus, And Jupiter and all the ancient civilization gods
[QUOTE=teeheeV2;20549512]Homos make me sick,I'm not a homophobe, but the thought of man on man makes me sick to the core. 1 less reason for me to move to America
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least, unlike you, they're getting some
[QUOTE=Kybalt;20548499]They don't and it makes no sense because their religion dictates that they do otherwise they go to hell, yet they pick and choose which makes no sense.[/QUOTE]
Because it is all about being forgiven.
[QUOTE=teeheeV2;20549512]Homos make me sick,I'm not a homophobe, but the thought of man on man makes me sick to the core. 1 less reason for me to move to America
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oh you :razz:
[QUOTE=teeheeV2;20549512]Homos make me sick,I'm not a homophobe, but the thought of man on man makes me sick to the core. 1 less reason for me to move to America[/QUOTE]
You're just jealous one guy is getting some tasty boy toy more then you :smug:
Good. I'm sick of Christians infringing on other people's rights just because of their beliefs.
I do not believe religion should take a place in political agendas, it is stupid to back up something up using some wild fictitious story from millenia ago rather than using logic.
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