Scientist makes first synthetic life, consensus complete.
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Actually, yeah. Unless of course the host cell was synthetic, too.
can we make humans programmed to be invincible and loyal
Suck it, creationists.
Oh my this is SO going to come in handy next time one of them starts telling me the Earth is 6000 years old.
[QUOTE=Eudoxia;22065518]Suck it, creationists.
Oh my this is SO going to come in handy next time one of them starts telling me the Earth is 6000 years old.[/QUOTE]
i dont get it how does this disprove that or have anything to do with that
[QUOTE=Herr Sven;22065255]Shall I celebrate now, or wait for the Higgs?[/QUOTE]
I'd wait for the Higgs because I bet :10bux: it will lead to FTL space travel.
[QUOTE=Kronos Zul;22065578]I'd wait for the Higgs because I bet :10bux: it will lead to FTL space travel.[/QUOTE]
I really hope FTL doesn't mean "Faster Than Light"...
[QUOTE=KmScMT;22065536]i dont get it how does this disprove that or have anything to do with that[/QUOTE]
Nothing really, I'm just tired of creationists whose main argument is "But life is so complex and beautiful." These people fail biology and physics forever.
The universe is remarkably simple in its substructure, but those little things have a tendency to stick together, make bigger shit, and in the end you get evolution and a species capable of smashing particles and antiparticles.
[QUOTE=Herr Sven;22065613]I really hope FTL doesn't mean "Faster Than Light"...[/QUOTE]
faster than normal light speed. if you go by mass effect's reasoning, if you increase the speed of light, you can then travel at the old speed of light (because you decrease the mass of a volume of space via element zero).
The use for sex for reproduction is over.
You know what that means :pervert:
Far away from making their own DNA. These cells basically just do what the bacteries to which the original DNA belongs to do.
[QUOTE=Foda;22065669]faster than normal light speed. if you go by mass effect's reasoning, if you increase the speed of light, you can then travel at the old speed of light (because you decrease the mass of a volume of space via element zero).[/QUOTE]
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[I][B]How[/B] [/I]would you do that.
[QUOTE=Johnnsen;22065090]I doubt mankind can be responsible with creating life.[/QUOTE]
There's scientists working on this, and there's a lot of them working on the other parts of the cell.
Why is life so special that we can't create it? really?
Why aren't we amazing enough in your eyes to see something and think "See that, I'm fucking having that"
[QUOTE=Foda;22065669]faster than normal light speed. if you go by mass effect's reasoning, if you increase the speed of light, you can then travel at the old speed of light (because you decrease the mass of a volume of space via element zero).[/QUOTE]
:wtc:
This is awesome. I like how the scientists describe it as replacing the cell's 'software' which is essentially what they've done with the DNA.
I wonder what will come first, humanoid robots or humanoid synthetics.
[QUOTE=bravehat;22065727]There's scientists working on this, and there's a lot of them working on the other parts of the cell.
Why is life so special that we can't create it? really?
Why aren't we amazing enough in your eyes to see something and think "See that, I'm fucking having that"[/QUOTE]
That kind of reasoning (Not yours, the "OMG LIFE IS SPECIAL HUMAN CLONING IS BAD SCIENCE IS TEH EVILS" thing) should've died a long time ago.
Fuck ethics, I want artificial cells to live longer.
Mind uploading is too 'unethical' and your church says it's wrong? Well good thing I'm not in your church, because mind uploading sounds good.
Fuck them retards who think there are 'ethics' and think genetic engineering is bad. I want my harem of cat women godammit :saddowns:
If the christians stop this from being used for good. I will fucking go on a bombing run *Preps steampunk goggles and super airship*
science is science and should not be contrasted with religion.
and science should not try and decode religion.
[QUOTE=Foda;22065669]faster than normal light speed. if you go by [b]mass effect's reasoning[/b], if you increase the speed of light, you can then travel at the old speed of light (because you decrease the mass of a volume of space via element zero).[/QUOTE]
Oh good god.
Someone explain how he's infinitely wrong in every sense.
[QUOTE=STREWTH_99;22064977]And then they fuck something up and create a super-deadly virus by accident.[/QUOTE]
T-Virus?
[QUOTE=Eudoxia;22065790]That kind of reasoning (Not yours, the "OMG LIFE IS SPECIAL HUMAN CLONING IS BAD SCIENCE IS TEH EVILS" thing) should've died a long time ago.
Fuck ethics, I want artificial cells to live longer.
Mind uploading is too 'unethical' and your church says it's wrong? Well good thing I'm not in your church, because mind uploading sounds good.
Fuck them retards who think there are 'ethics' and think genetic engineering is bad. I want my harem of cat women godammit :saddowns:[/QUOTE]
Ethics should be based on what is better on the whole, for our species.
For instance, if creating artificial life somehow cures cancer (cancer eating bacteria or something), I think that wins completely over any idea that humans don't have a 'right' to create artificial life.
It's a shame many people can't see this.
[QUOTE=Eudoxia;22065790]That kind of reasoning (Not yours, the "OMG LIFE IS SPECIAL HUMAN CLONING IS BAD SCIENCE IS TEH EVILS" thing) should've died a long time ago.
Fuck ethics, I want artificial cells to live longer.
Mind uploading is too 'unethical' and your church says it's wrong? Well good thing I'm not in your church, because mind uploading sounds good.
Fuck them retards who think there are 'ethics' and think genetic engineering is bad. I want my harem of cat women godammit :saddowns:[/QUOTE]
How is mind uploading good? You do realise that it would essentially consist of killing you and getting a computer to run a simulation of you, right? It wouldn't be "you" at all.
[QUOTE=Splurgy;22065892]How is mind uploading good? You do realise that it would essentially consist of killing you and getting a computer to run a simulation of you, right? It wouldn't be "you" at all.[/QUOTE]
Depends on your definition of 'you'.
[QUOTE=CorpseRida;22065876]T-Virus?[/QUOTE]
Let's just say a membership at a gun range sounds more appealing after reading that article. :v:
So does this make us gods now?
[QUOTE=WeltEnSTurm;22065685]Far away from making their own DNA. These cells basically just do what the bacteries to which the original DNA belongs to do.[/QUOTE]
No, but this is it. They took a cell and removed its DNA - so it was dead. Kaputt. A non-cell.
Then, they made DNA from nucleotides. It's like threading beads together on a long chain, except the chain is twisted around another chain and then around some larger beads and also it can tell you how to make proteins.
They then implanted this DNA in the cell. The cell then became alive again.
It's true that the DNA they made was the same sequence as a the DNA to a known cell, but they made that DNA from scratch. They could have put any sequence in - this is merely proof of concept.
SCIENCE! :science:
[QUOTE=Redsun;22065837]science is science and should not be contrasted with religion.
and science should not try and decode religion.[/QUOTE]
Agreed entirely as religion tries to explain why.
And fails hard, where as science explains how, and what something can be used for, and succeeds, but then we have to deal with the religious saying this is wrong.
Morals and religion shouldn't be near each other.
[QUOTE=petieng;22065906]Depends on your definition of 'you'.[/QUOTE]
My definition of "you" is the "you" that's "you". A computer is not "you", it's just a very good impersonation of "you".
I can't imagine how that could become too dangerous. It's just altered DNA. If it was possible to create some kind of super deadly cell it would have happened through natural evolution already
[QUOTE=Splurgy;22065892]How is mind uploading good? You do realise that it would essentially consist of killing you and getting a computer to run a simulation of you, right? It wouldn't be "you" at all.[/QUOTE]
But I want to live several thousands of years at least.
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