Thousands ask congress to remove net neutrality - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Eeshton;47434083]its about ~1-2% of our population but i cant get how petitions count for anything these days when a lot of them can be done anonymously[/QUOTE] You don't even have to be an American to sign these things. They're stupid as hell, always have been. More than anything, it's just voluntary registration for people who don't like the government.

Basically what happened: [b]"Hello sir/ma'am, do you have a second to talk about a new internet tax?"[/b] [i]"What's the internet?"[/i] [b]"You know your phone, your computer, everything electronic in your life? That's the internet. The government just passed a law to tax it without your permission, what do you think about that?"[/b] [i]"Uh, no taxation without representation, I guess? I use the internet a lot so that sucks"[/i] [b]"That's right, sign here and we can get rid of the internet tax together, friend!"[/b] Probably.

[QUOTE=Snowmew;47434792]Basically what happened: [b]"Hello sir/ma'am, do you have a second to talk about a new internet tax?"[/b] [i]"What's the internet?"[/i] [b]"You know your phone, your computer, everything electronic in your life? That's the internet. The government just passed a law to tax it without your permission, what do you think about that?"[/b] [i]"Uh, no taxation without representation, I guess? I use the internet a lot so that sucks"[/i] [b]"That's right, sign here and we can get rid of the internet tax together, friend!"[/b] Probably.[/QUOTE] But misrepresented ballots are pretty illegal.

[QUOTE=Adlertag1940;47434904]But misrepresented ballots are pretty illegal.[/QUOTE] Have you ever been surveyed by someone, or asked to sign something by someone, who actually presented the facts in an objective and neutral manner? (Hint: no)

[QUOTE=woolio1;47433929]54,000 signatures... That's not a whole heck of a lot. Something like 1/6000th of our country. A positive sample size of 1/6000 is negligible, at best. That's just under .2% of the total population. In a statistical study, that'd be considered worthless. EDITED FOR ZEROES BECAUSE I CANNOT MATH.[/QUOTE] If it was a sample it would be worth something. But it's not a sample because it's just a flat amount of people who signed the petition, not the result from a poll.

Fuck the Koch brothers

[QUOTE=God of Ashes;47435425]Fuck the Koch brothers[/QUOTE] ew no

Always amazes me how some people will constantly vote against their own interests.

A... April Fool's??

[QUOTE=woolio1;47433929]54,000 signatures... That's not a whole heck of a lot. Something like 1/6000th of our country. A positive sample size of 1/6000 is negligible, at best. That's just under .2% of the total population. In a statistical study, that'd be considered worthless. EDITED FOR ZEROES BECAUSE I CANNOT MATH.[/QUOTE] As you know, for every one person who complained there were a million that didn't, meaning that if 54,000 people complained then 54,000,000,000 people are mad.

[QUOTE=ultra_bright;47434207]just goes to show how fucking stupid and easy to manipulate people are.[/QUOTE] Man, that's hardly exclusive to anti-net neutrality. My Facebook feed is cluttered with morons endlessly parroting that John Oliver video without the slightest idea of what the issue is. We need some televised policy debate between informed, educated representatives so that the truth can win out, not this endless partisan shouting match.

doesn't thousands basically = hilariously insignificant in the US?

This is obviously some pretty fucked up shit. Though honestly I'm so jaded by this point that it doesn't really matter what happens, I'll still be on the shit end of the stick and I just simply don't care unless the FCC mandates all citizens get landline broadband 'or else.' To serve my area with anything faster than 1.5 Mbit down would lose any ISP income. Aside from me, there is probably no one else in my area that could even afford what I have right now. The population of this town is stagnant, and probably might be dropping. Cable is a foreign word and I'm literally on the edge of ADSL support; any further and you're stuck with Dial-Up. So honestly, at this point right now, it can't get any worse for me. I know it sounds petty and exaggerated but essentially my quality of life is starting to suffer due to shitty net. I live in the middle of nowhere, and I essentially get most of my entertainment from what little I can do with the internet. I wouldn't be able to get a telecommute job due to just how painfully slow my net is; it can't even handle basic desktop streaming.

[QUOTE=nagachief;47436715]This is obviously some pretty fucked up shit. Though honestly I'm so jaded by this point that it doesn't really matter what happens, I'll still be on the shit end of the stick and I just simply don't care unless the FCC mandates all citizens get landline broadband 'or else.' To serve my area with anything faster than 1.5 Mbit down would lose any ISP income. Aside from me, there is probably no one else in my area that could even afford what I have right now. The population of this town is stagnant, and probably might be dropping. Cable is a foreign word and I'm literally on the edge of ADSL support; any further and you're stuck with Dial-Up. So honestly, at this point right now, it can't get any worse for me. I know it sounds petty and exaggerated but essentially my quality of life is starting to suffer due to shitty net. I live in the middle of nowhere, and I essentially get most of my entertainment from what little I can do with the internet. I wouldn't be able to get a telecommute job due to just how painfully slow my net is; it can't even handle basic desktop streaming.[/QUOTE] In this day and age internet is almost a neccesity, it makes life so much more enjoyable. I really hate how there is some sort of a monopoly in the USA and so many areas have poor or no internet access at all. You would think the "best" country in the world would have the most important technology in the world under control.

[quote]540,000 signatures[/quote] Congratulations you've collected 0.1% of the US Population's signatures, representing a minority smaller than our smallest minority group, the Native Hawaiian and Pacific Islanders clocking in at 0.2% There will always be idiots in this country. Ten dollars says the signatures are faked/forced from their employees. I'll be worried when they get more than 5%

[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;47436838]Congratulations you've collected 0.1% of the US Population's signatures, representing a minority smaller than our smallest minority group, the Native Hawaiian and Pacific Islanders clocking in at 0.2% There will always be idiots in this country. Ten dollars says the signatures are faked/forced from their employees. I'll be worried when they get more than 5%[/QUOTE] .16%

[QUOTE=woolio1;47436847].16%[/QUOTE] Still insignificant.

[QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;47436838]Congratulations you've collected 0.1% of the US Population's signatures, representing a minority smaller than our smallest minority group, the Native Hawaiian and Pacific Islanders clocking in at 0.2% There will always be idiots in this country. Ten dollars says the signatures are faked/forced from their employees. I'll be worried when they get more than 5%[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Snoberry Tea;47436875]Still insignificant.[/QUOTE] The most successful petition to class ISPs as common carriers [url=https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/restore-net-neutrality-directing-fcc-classify-internet-providers-common-carriers]got 105,000 signatures[/url]. That's a fifth of what this measure has gotten. The number of people who support an idea, whatever it is, always dramatically exceeds the number who will sign an Internet petition. Don't blow it off as insignificant because it's 'just' 540,000 signatures.

[QUOTE=Ninja Gnome;47434226]i wish all of the cable companies in our country burnt to the ground with their boardmembers locked inside[/QUOTE] [img]http://facepunch.com/image.php?u=203731&dateline=1421822107[/img] You're ready.

[QUOTE=catbarf;47436918]The most successful petition to class ISPs as common carriers [url=https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/restore-net-neutrality-directing-fcc-classify-internet-providers-common-carriers]got 105,000 signatures[/url]. That's a fifth of what this measure has gotten. The number of people who support an idea, whatever it is, always dramatically exceeds the number who will sign an Internet petition. Don't blow it off as insignificant because it's 'just' 540,000 signatures.[/QUOTE] What are the demographics, though? I'd imagine a lot of these come from telephone signatures, or mail, primarily from the older demographic who doesn't know or care about the Internet or Net Neutrality in general. Yes, you can get a lot of signatures, but where you get them is just as important as how many you get.

Yeah, 540,000 signatures is a LOT for an on-line petition, no matter what percentage of the population that is. What lies are the ISP's spreading to pull this shit off?? Really need a propaganda campaign or something to unfuck these people's brains.

[QUOTE=Buck.;47437029]Yeah, 540,000 signatures is a LOT for an on-line petition, no matter what percentage of the population that is. What lies are the ISP's spreading to pull this shit off?? Really need a propaganda campaign or something to unfuck these people's brains.[/QUOTE] Hey Google, about that PSA campaign. Now would be a really good time to do it.

this belongs in sh these people are sensationally stupid if they think net neutrality is evil "reducing the Internet to a ‘public utility,’ imposing sweeping new taxes and destroying private investment, competition, and innovation while putting bureaucrats firmly in control." putting bureaucrats in control and avoiding a monopoly is exactly what were avoiding and libraries are a public utility go burn those down

[QUOTE=Cornish;47437276]this belongs in sh these people are sensationally stupid if they think net neutrality is evil "reducing the Internet to a ‘public utility,’ imposing sweeping new taxes and destroying private investment, competition, and innovation while putting bureaucrats firmly in control." putting bureaucrats in control and avoiding a monopoly is exactly what were avoiding and libraries are a public utility go burn those down[/QUOTE] The reason we're putting bureaucrats in control is because ISPs can't be fucking trusted. They go out of their way to avoid actually competing with competition. Of course they'd kick moan and bitch about net neutrality because it means they won't get their way anymore. God forbid your service actually be worth a fucking damn compared to the rest of the world.

Hey cool- now we have a convenient list of stupid motherfuckers to exile to Mexico.

[QUOTE=DanRatherman;47437886]Hey cool- now we have a convenient list of stupid motherfuckers to exile to Mexico.[/QUOTE] That seems a little unfair to Mexico, they've got enough problems as it is

I hope your government doesn't neutralize net neutrality

you guys really haven't studied statistics if you think 540 000 isn't a large enough sample size because it's .16% of the population If this was a proper simple random sample then you'd be <99.99% sure that this was representative of the population. That's how political surveys work too, they survey ~1000 people and it is 97% accurate to the population, meaning a 3% margin of error.

And thousands more go "fuck them they're idiots"

[QUOTE=woolio1;47437016]What are the demographics, though? I'd imagine a lot of these come from telephone signatures, or mail, primarily from the older demographic who doesn't know or care about the Internet or Net Neutrality in general.[/QUOTE] "Well if that damned Obama is involved then gimme that clip-board!"