Earth has entered its sixth great mass extinction event, it's our fault, and we might not survive, s
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Hahaha, fuckers, I'll be dead before this whole thing goes down anyways!
Rev up those coal plants!
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I'm pretty sure fringe scientists have been saying this shit for years and have been laughed off by mainstream academia
How the tables have turned
[QUOTE=Blazedol;48009020]For the first time in a fucking decade, I'm crying right now with a taste of horror and disgust in the back of my throat.
This is just... [I]fucked,[/I] man. Like, one of those things that makes you question if you're even awake.[/QUOTE]
Take a chill pill brah. There is a new study every week saying we all are going to die soon.
[QUOTE=ironman17;48010970]Time to invest in building the Vaults, I guess. Burrow deep and emerge aeons later to conquer the chimps.[/QUOTE]
The only upside of that is the fact that we'll have the option of blowing up what is basically a scrapyard town.
[QUOTE=ridinmybike;48011255]As harsh and pessimistic as it is to say, it does seem like we're a cancer on this planet. What other species could cause a mass extinction? The only solution would be to try and cut out as much of the cancer as possible[/QUOTE]
If the dinosaurs were allowed to live longer than they did, I bet they would end up hunting species to extinction. But an asteroid came along and prevented that. If another one came along before humans totally screwed the earth up, it would either balance shit out or make humans extinct, either way resetting the ecosystem after a long time. Yeah it will hurt the earth really bad short term, but in the long run it will rise from those ashes as a new plain. Then the next species can take over and repeat
[QUOTE=BusterBluth;48011361]Take a chill pill brah. There is a new study every week saying we all are going to die soon.[/QUOTE]
yeah I overreacted like the pussy I am :v:
but seriously, hearing this shit horrifies me. It's not that i'm scared of dying, Hell give me a gun and I'll do it myself, it's just I don't want to be worried that my kids or my grandkids or whatever the fuck are going to suffocate to death from breathing the god damn air or something like that.
Well, what we really need to do is cut the population by like 3/4, of course this will never happen and it's horrible to say that but we will never unify if this does not happen. Big companies would perhaps stop making as much oil, we wouldn't need as much water, and we wouldn't pollute as much. Perhaps that's what they meant about us being the first ones to go?
[QUOTE=ridinmybike;48011417]Well, what we really need to do is cut the population by like 3/4, of course this will never happen and it's horrible to say that but we will never unify if this does not happen. Big companies would perhaps stop making as much oil, we wouldn't need as much water, and we wouldn't pollute as much. Perhaps that's what they meant about us being the first ones to go?[/QUOTE]
You mean the NWO will fight global warming by executing 3/4 of worlds population in FEMA camps to save humanity from extinction. It all makes sense now.
Ha, they think we won't survive?
Did they forget about everything in the past where humanity has snatched victory from the jaws of defeat purely because we were about to be rectally pillaged by something?
Mate, we'll be fine, the world will be fine, it's just gonna look absolutely nothing like it does now and most of the animals will die but humanity will survive, even if it means growing our meat and food in vats and cannibalising our dead, we'll survive.
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[QUOTE=ridinmybike;48011417]Well, what we really need to do is cut the population by like 3/4, of course this will never happen and it's horrible to say that but we will never unify if this does not happen. Big companies would perhaps stop making as much oil, we wouldn't need as much water, and we wouldn't pollute as much. Perhaps that's what they meant about us being the first ones to go?[/QUOTE]
The Earths carrying capacity for humans is 10 billion.
The whole overpopulation thing is absolute grade A horse shit. The problem isn't a lack of resources or anything like that, it's complete and utter mismanagement, that's what will kill us.
if every scientists in the world keeps fucking around in every possible way with every other diseases instead of going with the classic motto "prevention is the best cure", then we'll be the next species to get fucked from six different angles.
[QUOTE=FullofCunts;48011498]if every scientists in the world keeps fucking around in every possible way with Ebola instead of going with the classic motto "prevention is the best cure", then we'll be the next species to get fucked from six different angles.[/QUOTE]
We already have an effective vaccine for ebola now, as well as a few treatments.
So no, we won't be stopped by Ebola of all shitty viruses to be stopped by.
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Are bees really that huge of a deal? I know they are important for certain ecosystems but as far as I'm aware a majority of all plant life on earth does just fine without bees because bees simply don't live in certain parts of the world.
Not to mention I thought it was just the honeybee that was at risk of extinction. I would argue that other bee species are vastly more important for pollination than honeybees, as anecdotally I've never encountered a wild honeybee in the midwest/east coast regions but a shit ton of other bee varieties.
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Also the timetable is pretty misleading. Even if we were entering an extinction event, it would easily take several hundred years to really carry itself out. Necessity is the mother of invention, and we sure as hell are good at inventing things.
The world has been on the verge of a hunger crisis (which would result in mass human extinction in less than a decade) many times during human history for example, but then we discover the plow, then we discover fertilizers, then we discover crop rotation, etc. A lot of human history is built on stuff like that. In 200 years if we aren't living almost 100% green (aka planet can begin to regulate itself quite well) we'll easily have some sort of tech that can solve it.
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The Earths carrying capacity for humans is 10 billion.
The whole overpopulation thing is absolute grade A horse shit. The problem isn't a lack of resources or anything like that, it's complete and utter mismanagement, that's what will kill us.[/QUOTE]
problem may not be the resources.. But it is sure as hell the waste
Looking at this one wonders whether transcendence is a bad thing after all.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;48010153]And you are basing that on the fact that we have survived how many previous major extinction events?
While humanity is resilient, I am pretty sure that few thousand years with atmosphere being unbreathable for us would be quite a shakeup and we don't really have any data that could tell us if we could make it over that or not.[/QUOTE]
If there are species that are able to survive that scenario, humanity will find out how they function after a few decades tops and mimic them for their own survival like we already did in numerous other situations, even if it means only a few millions will survive. The only way for humanity to go completely extinct is if all life on earth as we know it disappears with it. I really don't see how we would be the first to die out in a mass extinction event.
[QUOTE=ridinmybike;48011540]problem may not be the resources.. But it is sure as hell the waste[/QUOTE]
They're the same thing, our entire economic system is killing us and this planet, it's constantly played to make sure coal and oil are kept on top despite them being responsible for more deaths than everything nuclear related ever. Our system is built around consumption, we have countries with monopolies on materials that could be used to vastly improve the lives of people all over the world because someone wants another few dollars per gram of Lithium, we have China sitting pretty on pretty much the only major source of Rare Earth Metals vital to pretty much all modern technology.
Really what we need is a switch to a new type of society built on mass automation and asteroid mining and to completely eviscerate coal and oil from our countries, economies and lives, but again the whole system we use is played to make sure they stay relevant for as long as possible.
The crux of the problem is that climate change is too slow, I mean if we were told there's gonna be 10000% increase in hurricanes and weather driven natural disasters and cities were drowning as we speak we'd do something about it because it represents a direct and immediate threat, our survival instincts would kick in much harder but climate change happens on the scale of generations, it's too slow for most people to register as an actual problem, it's effectively an abstract idea to most people.
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[QUOTE=KorJax;48011523]Are bees really that huge of a deal? I know they are important for certain ecosystems but as far as I'm aware a majority of all plant life on earth does just fine without bees because bees simply don't live in certain parts of the world.
Not to mention I thought it was just the honeybee that was at risk of extinction. I would argue that other bee species are vastly more important for pollination than honeybees, as anecdotally I've never encountered a wild honeybee in the midwest/east coast regions but a shit ton of other bee varieties.
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Also the timetable is pretty misleading. Even if we were entering an extinction event, it would easily take several hundred years to really carry itself out. Necessity is the mother of invention, and we sure as hell are good at inventing things.
The world has been on the verge of a hunger crisis (which would result in mass human extinction in less than a decade) many times during human history for example, but then we discover the plow, then we discover fertilizers, then we discover crop rotation, etc. A lot of human history is built on stuff like that. In 200 years if we aren't living almost 100% green (aka planet can begin to regulate itself quite well) we'll easily have some sort of tech that can solve it.[/QUOTE]
Bees are a massive deal, they pollinate our plants and trust me you do not want to do that manually, a community in china has to do it yearly for their peach trees and it takes them weeks to do what a few hives can do in days.
Also you misunderstand;
The mass extinction is already happening, we are losing hundreds of species per year, the same rates we've seen in all major mass extinctions.
[QUOTE=KorJax;48011523]
Also the timetable is pretty misleading. Even if we were entering an extinction event, it would easily take several hundred years to really carry itself out. Necessity is the mother of invention, and we sure as hell are good at inventing things.
The world has been on the verge of a hunger crisis (which would result in mass human extinction in less than a decade) many times during human history for example, but then we discover the plow, then we discover fertilizers, then we discover crop rotation, etc. A lot of human history is built on stuff like that. In 200 years if we aren't living almost 100% green (aka planet can begin to regulate itself quite well) we'll easily have some sort of tech that can solve it.[/QUOTE].
So what exactly are we going to invent to stop this? A time machine? It's this type of thinking that is fucking us over for the long haul... We'll figure something out? We haven't even cured cancer or H.I.V but I'm sure we'll figure something out for the mass extinction problem. We need to act now, and not rely on some magic fix
The United States will have a very big lithium industry very soon. Including battery production.
[QUOTE=OvB;48011654]The United States will have a very big lithium industry very soon. Including battery production.[/QUOTE]
I thought battery production was super dirty and made a ton of pollution, though I might also be thinking of solar panels, or be wrong in both aspects.
[QUOTE=kweh;48011374]The only upside of that is the fact that we'll have the option of blowing up what is basically a scrapyard town.[/QUOTE]
Probably not in Japan though.
This is assuming we do nothing to progress farming or agriculture, it assumes we will stay in a perpetual state of now.
[QUOTE=FalconKrunch;48009877]Create another hole in the ozone layer to let all the hot air out![/QUOTE]
It's called Australia
[QUOTE=Toro;48011772]I thought battery production was super dirty and made a ton of pollution, though I might also be thinking of solar panels, or be wrong in both aspects.[/QUOTE]
Can be, doesn't have to be. Lithium ion batteries are cleaner than other batteries, and can also be entirely recycled. Through new processes.
Solar manufacturing has some concerning risk but it's getting cleaner.
I can only hope future generations manage to reverse such a thing.
Wouldn't it be nice if everyone just did the right things? Seems like as earth's population grows, affecting positive change on the planet is becoming less a matter of doing hard things and more a matter of corralling billions of fucktards into doing that thing they know they ought to be doing anyway.
I've felt for quite a while that if there's anything that's going to eliminate the human race, it's the human race.
I really don't think we'll be able to make it if we don't find some way of uniting our people towards a common goal, which at the very least would be to fucking survive.
But I guess we're creatures of habit, and our habits may wind up being the end of us. Can't say I'm any different.
How many of you just don't fucking get it?
"HAH, they think we'll die out? NEVER!"
Do you guys understand? Do you have any concept of what this means or do you just have a ball of fear in your stomach that you're pushing out and ignoring?
When we reach a certain point of population, over-farming, over use of water, over use of land, it isn't that we'll die out as a species, that itself might be unlikely. But what will happen is that billions will die. Not millions. Billions. The work force for the planet will vanish in a few years of starvation, lack of water, and serious climate change. The people who would have farmed food to keep you alive? Dead. The people who would be maintaining clean water supplies? Dead. It's not like the world will collapse in one great big moment. It's a slow decline where the knowledge of how to run our complex society, how to grow our food and do the things we need to do, will be lost.
Today, we have more knowledge than we've ever had before. More knowledge than anyone can safely hold in their head alone. Do you think when the experts in those field die through the tumultous bullshit that will happen that we'll just recover from losing their knowledge and expertise?
No. We won't. It'll be slow, and it'll be filled with us clawing our way out of the pitt of starvation and thirst and some will survive, but humanity as a whole will be so harmed, and so damaged by this that just "coming back" from it won't happen.
Makes you wonder, if we really do go extinct, what would the next "Human" be like in millions of years?
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