Earth has entered its sixth great mass extinction event, it's our fault, and we might not survive, s - Polidicks

It's not my problem, I'll leave it for the next generation to figure out.

Do you guys think this will happen in the next 100 years?

[QUOTE=Xonax;48014638]Do you guys think this will happen in the next 100 years?[/QUOTE] This generation is gonna be fine, perhaps our kids will be fine, but the routine we currently have is bound to fuck us up eventually

[QUOTE=ridinmybike;48014675]This generation is gonna be fine, perhaps our kids will be fine, but the routine we currently have is bound to fuck us up eventually[/QUOTE] We still have time then. Let's let the next generation figure it out. Anyway, I do have an offtopic question, someone in the thread mentioned Baby Boomers and it's something I keep seeing around when people talk about politics. What are baby boomers?

[QUOTE=Sobotnik;48013913]It's always the misanthropes who refer to other human beings as "cancer".[/QUOTE] Tell me, if we are the cause of the next mass extinction how are we not like cancer? We keep growing, and consuming with no contribution except to ourselves

[QUOTE=ridinmybike;48014720]Tell me, if we are the cause of the next mass extinction how are we not like cancer? We keep growing, and consuming with no contribution except to ourselves[/QUOTE] You better stop this edge before it stops you

[QUOTE=ridinmybike;48014720]Tell me, if we are the cause of the next mass extinction how are we not like cancer? We keep growing, and consuming with no contribution except to ourselves[/QUOTE] We aren't doing anything that any other species isn't doing. Hell, even trees had a negative effect on the environment until microbes evolved to help the wood decompose. They continually took in CO2 and produced oxygen, and for a really long period of time wouldn't release that CO2 back after dying. This changed the entire planet. [editline]20th June 2015[/editline] We would never existed if it wasn't for the saving grace of rotting wood

[QUOTE=Rangergxi;48013462]Selfishness and insanity will kill us. We have people in positions of power that believe in the rapture, believing that we can pollute as much as we want since the worlds gonna end anyway. [url]http://religiondispatches.org/does-end-time-belief-really-cause-climate-change-apathy/[/url][/QUOTE] Believe it or not but there are actually people who refuse to do anything about global warming and such because we're "already too far gone" or "it's too late, enough damage has already been done, and those on the top control everything, so why bother?" [url]http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-roberts/fighting-the-new-defeatis_b_41416.html[/url] [url]https://addi.ehu.es/bitstream/10810/14236/1/BC3WP201113.pdf[/url] Remember the majority of the pollution that is killing our planet is based on demand by us, if we collectively, or majorily reject it to save our environment the people in power will have no choice but to concede to better ways to supply our energy and transportation. You're not wrong either though.

[QUOTE=Xonax;48014705]We still have time then. [B]Let's let the next generation figure it out.[/B] [/QUOTE] This exact mentality has put us in the position we're currently in. If we keep kicking our feet up and saying "eh our grandkids can fix this I'll be in my grave by the time shit is fucked" there won't be a "let the next generation figure it out" because that "next generation" will be out of the equation.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;48014762]We aren't doing anything that any other species isn't doing. Hell, even trees had a negative effect on the environment until microbes evolved to help the wood decompose. They continually took in CO2 and produced oxygen, and for a really long period of time wouldn't release that CO2 back after dying. This changed the entire planet. [editline]20th June 2015[/editline] We would never existed if it wasn't for the saving grace of rotting wood[/QUOTE] What do you mean we aren't doing anything that another species isnt doing? What you just said about the trees decomposing etc is natural, what we're doing is unnatural

[QUOTE=Lone Wolf807;48014611]It's not my problem, I'll leave it for the next generation to figure out.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Xonax;48014705]We still have time then. [B]Let's let the next generation figure it out.[/B] Anyway, I do have an offtopic question, someone in the thread mentioned Baby Boomers and it's something I keep seeing around when people talk about politics. What are baby boomers?[/QUOTE] People like you are the problem. If people haven't been saying this for the past how-ever-many years, we probably would be considerably farther along with fixing the issues that face us today. Saying "Lets let the next generation figure it out" is so fucking counterproductive, it actually makes me quite a bit angry.

[QUOTE=_Axel;48010096]There doesn't seem to be any explanation in the article as to why we would be the first species to go extinct. I don't see why that would be the case either, many civilisations have survived for thousands of years in extremely harsh conditions. Unless Earth's surface is glassed or temperature rise above survivable levels I don't see why the entire species should go extinct. Worst case scenario, our population is drastically reduced and we go back to smaller feudal or tribal societies. Adaptable species are the most likely to live through mass extinction events and I don't see any other species that would fit that criteria better than us. [editline]20th June 2015[/editline] Not that it should be a valid reason to ignore the problem, a Fallout or Mad Max kind of world isn't anything to look forward to.[/QUOTE] if i had to wager a guess, i'd say it's because the collapse of society could lead to our extinction for two major reasons: 1. division of labor. most people don't have the skills in self-sufficiency to survive in a world without institutions. 2. nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons. if they fall into the wrong hands, they can put the final nail in our coffin.

I have no idea how I'm gonna sleep tonight now I'm sorry I don't know science stuff guys I want to help but I wasted my life playing video games

[QUOTE=Toro;48015651]People like you are the problem. If people haven't been saying this for the past how-ever-many years, we probably would be considerably farther along with fixing the issues that face us today. Saying "Lets let the next generation figure it out" is so fucking counterproductive, it actually makes me quite a bit angry.[/QUOTE] I was making a joke.

[QUOTE=Xonax;48016031]I was making a joke.[/QUOTE] I think some people knew it was just a joke but they're kinda upset at the fact that there is a lot of people that legit think like that? [editline]12:49AM[/editline] like it's no laughing matter to some people??

[QUOTE=ridinmybike;48015102]What do you mean we aren't doing anything that another species isnt doing? What you just said about the trees decomposing etc is natural, what we're doing is unnatural[/QUOTE] Trees not decomposing was just as natural, and left unchecked it would have eventually made the Earth basically uninhabitable. [editline]21st June 2015[/editline] There's basically no distinction between natural and unnatural events. Even natural things cause environmental damage.

[QUOTE=ridinmybike;48015102]What do you mean we aren't doing anything that another species isnt doing? What you just said about the trees decomposing etc is natural, what we're doing is unnatural[/QUOTE] meteor impacts are natural events also humans are a species just like any other on the planet so everything we do is "natural" "natural" and "unnatural" are stupid fucking keywords that hippies used to try to kill off nuclear power

[QUOTE=joes33431;48015780]if i had to wager a guess, i'd say it's because the collapse of society could lead to our extinction for two major reasons: 1. division of labor. most people don't have the skills in self-sufficiency to survive in a world without institutions. 2. nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons. if they fall into the wrong hands, they can put the final nail in our coffin.[/QUOTE] The weapons thing sounds like a legit concern, but if the extinction event is as slow as they claim it will be, people will have enough time on their hands to learn basic survival skills.

So Depressing, it's hard to keep a chin up when you realize how small you are in the greater picture.

Everyone who's saying this article is sensationalist really hasn't read up on fucking shit and are probably just trying to make themselves feel better. This is the real deal, I promise you.

So, the conclusion is that manglements around the world is fucking up with our planets? And we are sitting on methane clathrate bomb? [url]http://www.planetextinction.com/planet_extinction_clathrates.htm[/url] What can we do now? What can [I]I[/I] do now?

[QUOTE=FingerSpazem;48017403]Everyone who's saying this article is sensationalist really hasn't read up on fucking shit and are probably just trying to make themselves feel better. This is the real deal, I promise you.[/QUOTE] Wow nice job I'm sure everyone who doubted this article has been fully convinced

[QUOTE=Abaddon-ext4;48017537]So, the conclusion is that manglements around the world is fucking up with our planets? And we are sitting on methane clathrate bomb? [url]http://www.planetextinction.com/planet_extinction_clathrates.htm[/url] What can we do now? What can [I]I[/I] do now?[/QUOTE] Don't smoke.

[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;48017602]Wow nice job I'm sure everyone who doubted this article has been fully convinced[/QUOTE] tbh though if you're not already convinced this is a thing nothing will do it

I really hope I'm one of the first people to die off. I'm not sure I want to see where Humanity goes from here. [img]http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/j8fdwigrlkgwwrz4ysme.jpg[/img]

[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;48017602]Wow nice job I'm sure everyone who doubted this article has been fully convinced[/QUOTE] Who cares if they are or aren't? Denialists aren't going to be persuaded about it one way or the other; their minds are made up already: [i]"Nothing will happen, everything will be fine, I know more about this issue than well-educated researchers at Princeton, Stanford, Berkeley, Duke, and other such universities do because I just do. I'm a genius, and I'm even smarter than NASA is. I've never actually committed myself to studying in-depth anything relating to this issue, be it climate change or pollution or overpopulation or overconsumption of natural resources, but I'm still a genius who knows what he's talking about anyway."[/i] What we need to understand is that this kind of awareness rhetoric is useful, but not against them. People that doubt or outright deny don't matter because they aren't going to do anything useful with themselves to combat this issue anyway. They are literally useless, and the only reason we should bother to listen to them is to remind ourselves of what our opposition is like and how dangerous they are because, in our society, regardless of whether or not you're disturbingly stupid, you're still allowed an opinion-- even if your opinion is wrong, even if it's destructive, for some reason, we believe it should be allowed anyway. Mostly, awareness rhetoric is for people like us who know better and who want to make a difference and who understand the severity of this crisis to a scientific extent. It helps to charge us up, keep us united together, and gives us a reason to keep on going and to try to fight back to make a difference in the world (for the sake of the world, even if the odds of success are hopelessly against us). I think a lot of this denial comes from desperation and fear. Someone else earlier said this too. It's like a person who gets a terminal cancer diagnosis from a doctor; denial is one of their first natural reactions to this news, because they're scared and they don't want to admit that they're in serious trouble and they're going to die. That's a micro example, examining only a typical individual's reaction. But even at a macro scale, with say a sizable group of individuals put together or even an entire society, the same reaction will be seen when terrible news is given (as with the prospect of extinction or near extinction); most will deny it out of fear, only some will have the ability to suppress this natural reaction and accept the news and understand just how serious its implications are. And then there's greedy assholes who deny it because they've got something to gain (obviously: money, and everything else that goes with it) by convincing people there's no problem. Truthfully, I know there's not much people like us can do to make a difference. Real change is going to have to come from governments, businesses, industry, and collective society cooperating with each other, and unfortunately, that's not happening to an influential extent yet. Even so, with the hopelessness of this situation and the pessimism it's easy to feel when thinking about it in mind, that doesn't mean for us that we should just surrender and do nothing. Or I don't think so anyway. Because for what certainties there are, it's assured that there will be absolutely no hope if none of us make an effort to do anything and we all sit around and do nothing.

I'm gonna be that guy. Nature finds a way. And with nature, I mean mostly humans. We suck at maintaining ourselves but we always (usually) have a last-minute backup plan or idea. Humanity has gone through a ton of shit, and given how diversified we are across the world in various climates and ecosystems, we'll pull through. I dunno, maybe I'm just optimistic, but a huuuge part of me really doubts humanity will ever go truly extinct. We're a bit like cockroaches. Very intelligent cockroaches with opposable thumbs.

which type of post apocalypse does everyone prefer? i like the kind where humans put their consciousnesses in cyberspace and we don't know if we can even come back to the physical world like we were supposed to or if we are all physically dead. mainly because its the least different from my life atm.

[QUOTE=27X;48009537]When yellowstone goes off again there'll be enough ash for everyone.[/QUOTE] Yellow Stone will never go off it's much too large

[QUOTE=SpartanXC9;48017988]Yellow Stone will never go off it's much too large[/QUOTE] Yellowstone's went off 3 times in the past 2.1mil years, whats stopping it from going off again?