PSA: Windows XP users will receive a global popup tomorrow that warns of its impending death - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Monk37900;44171222]I don't see why everybody cares what OS another person uses, if they want to get left behind, let them.[/QUOTE] because when they come bitching about how they have a virus in technical support, they're going to get laughed at

[QUOTE=J!NX;44170038]You do realize XP is 4 times, if not more, unstable and insecure than 7 and 8.1 right? And that due to no longer being updated and simply being insanely out of date it puts you at risk? are you seriously this naive? holy shit dude, you are just begging to get hacked not only that but the massive performance decrease [B]you[/B] put yourself through just to keep your shitty OS. The massive number of programs you're missing out on that could be good to use. It's slower, easier to break, outdated, insecure, and doesn't support anything nearly as well as newer OS systems. But hey if you get some fucked up virus that fries all your information and you get all your accounts stolen don't cry, it's an 11 year old OS, get with the times. seriously, please change it, even if you don't get a massive virus, you're still missing out on a [B]lot[/B][/QUOTE] I'm honestly not too fussed, if anything it looks like I'm the only person here not crying about Windows XP. I'm aware of the risks and the benefits you listed and actually I've looking to upgrade when I buy a new computer. Unfortunately for me, I've ran into some financial troubles lately and won't have the money to spare in the near future. Other than that, I've had much more pressing matters to deal with and upgrading from XP has been the last thing on my mind. Maybe I'll have to upgrade now though just so you don't lose any sleep.

[QUOTE=Bread_Baron;44172021]I'm honestly not too fussed, if anything it looks like I'm the only person here not crying about Windows XP. I'm aware of the risks and the benefits you listed and actually I've looking to upgrade when I buy a new computer. Unfortunately for me, I've ran into some financial troubles lately and won't have the money to spare in the near future. Other than that, I've had much more pressing matters to deal with and upgrading from XP has been the last thing on my mind. Maybe I'll have to upgrade now though just so you don't lose any sleep.[/QUOTE] I lay in bed every day staring that the ceiling knowing people still use windows xp [t]http://thumb7.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/196033/196033,1261813931,1/stock-photo-afraid-of-the-dark-insomnia-43406110.jpg[/t]

[QUOTE=Monk37900;44171222]I don't see why everybody cares what OS another person uses, if they want to get left behind, let them.[/QUOTE] For an example, my dad is an engineer, and he was only recently able to upgrade to 7 because nearly all of the programs he uses for work were previously completely incompatible with it. It wasn't his choice that he still used XP, he had to in order to do his job.

[QUOTE=BCell;44169008]Who still uses Windows XP? By this time most people ahve moved to Windows 7 or 8 at least.[/QUOTE] Companies whose entire workflow and business depend on ultra-specialized programs that only work properly on XP with no usable alternatives on modern platforms. [editline]8th March 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Monk37900;44171222]I don't see why everybody cares what OS another person uses, if they want to get left behind, let them.[/QUOTE] If some guy has a home computer and uses XP? big deal. If I'm going to a company, and giving them personally identifiable info and they're going to use XP machines, however? That poses a major security risk and that becomes a big problem.

[QUOTE=Bread_Baron;44172021]I'm honestly not too fussed, if anything it looks like I'm the only person here not crying about Windows XP. I'm aware of the risks and the benefits you listed and actually I've looking to upgrade when I buy a new computer. Unfortunately for me, I've ran into some financial troubles lately and won't have the money to spare in the near future. Other than that, I've had much more pressing matters to deal with and upgrading from XP has been the last thing on my mind. Maybe I'll have to upgrade now though just so you don't lose any sleep.[/QUOTE] XP works fine for me too, I downgraded from vista to XP because vista sucked so much, and my laptop is pretty old, but i can't complain with XP.

[QUOTE]Gonna make using XP in a virtual machine all the more fun for us malware enthusiasts![/QUOTE] BTW, If you PM me, ill get you a big torrent full of viruses if you guys want.

The best thing about this fear mongering is that this isn't the first time I've seen people take every side when an OS hit EOL and everyone had an opinion. Remember the paranoia that came around when Windows 98 went EOL and everyone was bitching why people were not transitioning to XP and in a few weeks the OS would be riddled with malware? Remember how it hit EOL, nothing really happened and companies and school districts continued to use 98 up until 2010? Sure, malware is still going to be made for a few months after but considering all malware is built in moneymaking schemes there's no point to keep developing for a platform that has fallen into the global minority of users. Within a year everyone is coding for the next OS. In five years you might still be running 98 but the risk of a malware infestation has almost dropped to the floor. You might catch something if you're reckless but if you are running an OS five years after EOL you probably know what you are doing or you are running a task so dedicated that you will never catch anything out of daily use. Don't believe this? Hey, I was using 98se with the unofficial service pack until 2007. Still not satisfied? Remember this for the record: When 7 and 8 hit EOL we're going to be chasing this wagon all over again. Everyone is going to pick sides, some will warn of a great tidalwave of malware, others will cite technological advances and others will spew biased bullshit. You want to upgrade to 7 or 8 you can go do that as a person but as a business you'll probably see XP floating around until 2020 and if you can't live with that or someone else still running it, well too fucking bad for you.

[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;44172160]Companies whose entire workflow and business depend on ultra-specialized programs that only work properly on XP with no usable alternatives on modern platforms. [/QUOTE] As far as I'm aware this is complete bullshit, I tested Windows Vista in Beta, and applications ran, some had bugs because of UAC but if you turned UAC off it they ran perfectly fine, and obviously all these applications were designed for Windows XP because Windows Vista was still in Beta phase, and these programs work on Windows 7. I don't know of any application that works on Windows XP but doesn't work on Windows 7. [QUOTE=pentium;44172719]The best thing about this fear mongering is that this isn't the first time I've seen people take every side when an OS hit EOL and everyone had an opinion. Remember the paranoia that came around when Windows 98 went EOL and everyone was bitching why people were not transitioning to XP and in a few weeks the OS would be riddled with malware? Remember how it hit EOL, nothing really happened and companies and school districts continued to use 98 up until 2010? Sure, malware is still going to be made for a few months after but considering all malware is built in moneymaking schemes there's no point to keep developing for a platform that has fallen into the global minority of users. Within a year everyone is coding for the next OS. In five years you might still be running 98 but the risk of a malware infestation has almost dropped to the floor. You might catch something if you're reckless but if you are running an OS five years after EOL you probably know what you are doing or you are running a task so dedicated that you will never catch anything out of daily use. Don't believe this? Hey, I was using 98se with the unofficial service pack until 2007. Still not satisfied? Remember this for the record: When 7 and 8 hit EOL we're going to be chasing this wagon all over again. Everyone is going to pick sides, some will warn of a great tidalwave of malware, others will cite technological advances and others will spew biased bullshit. You want to upgrade to 7 or 8 you can go do that as a person but as a business you'll probably see XP floating around until 2020 and if you can't live with that or someone else still running it, well too fucking bad for you.[/QUOTE] "Hurr Hurr I know computers inside and out and that means everyone is as invincible as I am" Unfortunately not everyone has your knowledge. Yeah of course you can dodge Windows XP viruses for the rest of your life if you know [I]exactly[/I] what you're doing and you maintain a very high level of security. But a lot of people won't. With security patches, Windows Firewall and a free anti-virus is more than enough to keep you away from viruses. But when the security patches aren't coming any more, there's still a much higher risk, if you really want to keep safe after the support ends you're probably going to need a stronger antivirus and possibly some proper firewall software. And a lot of businesses still use Windows XP, these are a great target for people making viruses, it doesn't matter if there aren't that many normal consumers using Windows XP I'm fairly sure a lot of businesses got hit with viruses when support ended for 98, it doesn't always get reported and it may not be businesses in your area or country, but I'm sure it did actually happen

question is, who the hell is writing malware for new exploits in XP still

[QUOTE=pentium;44172719]The best thing about this fear mongering is that this isn't the first time I've seen people take every side when an OS hit EOL and everyone had an opinion. Remember the paranoia that came around when Windows 98 went EOL and everyone was bitching why people were not transitioning to XP and in a few weeks the OS would be riddled with malware? Remember how it hit EOL, nothing really happened and companies and school districts continued to use 98 up until 2010? Sure, malware is still going to be made for a few months after but considering all malware is built in moneymaking schemes there's no point to keep developing for a platform that has fallen into the global minority of users. Within a year everyone is coding for the next OS. In five years you might still be running 98 but the risk of a malware infestation has almost dropped to the floor. You might catch something if you're reckless but if you are running an OS five years after EOL you probably know what you are doing or you are running a task so dedicated that you will never catch anything out of daily use. Don't believe this? Hey, I was using 98se with the unofficial service pack until 2007. Still not satisfied? Remember this for the record: When 7 and 8 hit EOL we're going to be chasing this wagon all over again. Everyone is going to pick sides, some will warn of a great tidalwave of malware, others will cite technological advances and others will spew biased bullshit. You want to upgrade to 7 or 8 you can go do that as a person but as a business you'll probably see XP floating around until 2020 and if you can't live with that or someone else still running it, well too fucking bad for you.[/QUOTE] whatever, if you want to use old tech no one should give a shit but there are a lot of reasons not to use it, if it's a business that's using XP, there is no excuse at all aside from programs that truly cannot be replaced. Not upgrading because you have a real nice set up, whatever, that's you're choice, but there is not actually a point to it. people choose sides because guess what, newer OS's [I]are [/I]better. Don't like that fact? Too bad, that's just the way it is you know. They're better on the basis that they are built to be faster and have much more support, as well as the fact that they can better implement new hardware as well as simply being supported. Not upgrading just because you have a fetish for old tech and think somehow XP at all compares to old tech is stupid. Old tech has its advantages but you can still care about it and use windows 7 or 8.1. (or w7 with an xp theme) And don't give me that "I can't afford it" excuse please that's completely silly. You have a passion and hobby for old tech and that's awesome but please turn off your boner for a second. [video=youtube;xlaxcjT3rDY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlaxcjT3rDY&list=UU3Oi3oA33qlzADMX5fWhOkQ[/video] [QUOTE]it[B] only cost me $150[/B] and a month's work to repair.[/QUOTE] and everything here [URL]http://celgen.deviantart.com/[/URL] and on your channel. You're good with XP, that's cool and all, but that doesn't matter, because yeah it is still not that secure unless you're really good at it. The older a OS gets naturally the more exploits are going to be found, and it gets replaced with software that is far more secure, way way faster and a ton of other things. It's not even better because it's "New", it's better because it simply works way more efficiently. and yes, this is why people are serious about not using XP. [QUOTE=dai;44173081]question is, who the hell is writing malware for new exploits in XP still[/QUOTE] cave men

[QUOTE=Snowmew;44170747]Because it's like sticking with [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_2.0"]Windows 2.1[/URL] (released 1988 - 13 years before XP) while everyone else uses XP (released 2001 - 13 years before Win8.1).[/QUOTE] interesting how 2.1 differs so much from xp in all aspects that it cannot be compared to xp, while win8.1 is generally improved in all aspects compared to xp 13 years make a load of difference.

If somebody says that they are running XP, I automatically assume that they are not fortunate/don't care enough to be able to get a computer that can run something newer. That is pretty much the only excuse I can think of for running XP.

[QUOTE=SirKillsAlot;44173245]If somebody says that they are running XP, I automatically assume that they are not fortunate/don't care enough to be able to get a computer that can run something newer. That is pretty much the only excuse I can think of for running XP.[/QUOTE] or they have a huge girl boner for xp windows 7 has an xp theme anyways so

my school still uses windows xp, its gonna be fun next month...

[QUOTE=J!NX;44173082][img]http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-bravo2.gif[/img][/QUOTE] Why the fuck are you dragging me into this? I'm just saying that regardless of what people [i]on the internet[/i] say, there will still be people using XP for years to come. Is this so much of a problem for you that you are losing sleep at night? Will you have an aneurysm if I start posting using a windows 95 machine? Point is: Why the fuck are people having such a shitfit? Give it a break because please tell me you have more pressing priorities than to harass people on the internet about their choice of OS. Even I have better things to do right now than defend a lifestyle like job applications and taxes. What are you doing on a Saturday afternoon? [quote="dai"]question is, who the hell is writing malware for new exploits in XP still [/quote] Exactly. Everyone transitioned a while ago.

[QUOTE=dai;44173081]question is, who the hell is writing malware for new exploits in XP still[/QUOTE] There might be groups who are sitting on exploits that have yet to be patched and are waiting for EOL to use them. Microsoft is using the term Zero Day Forever. It was the same for Windows 2000, week after EOL, a new exploit came out that by simply looking at a icon compromised the system.

People will still be writing exploits, and if you think that people aren't going to take this opportunity to write exploits then you're being silly

Linux masterrace.

[QUOTE=djjkxbox360;44174238]People will still be writing exploits, and if you think that people aren't going to take this opportunity to write exploits then you're being silly[/QUOTE] to counter mips point, 98 had a much lower market share by then. XP still has a huge market share filled with people who dont know how to upgrade/cant be arsed/think they wont get a virus. its a good market for malware devs to target.

[QUOTE=pentium;44172719]Wall of Bullshit[/QUOTE] No, I don't remember that. Because what really happened was that any machine that was actually used on the internet got fucked within 3 months, and every other machine was a kiosk that wasn't used for anything productive, other than logging simple information or ordering a sandwich.

I guess that explains why the school I went to in the US was upgrading more of their computers (some already had Windows 7) to Windows 7 just as I left. Anyways, a lot of the Point-of-sale systems here in Japan still use XP... Although I've seen a lot of them upgrading to Windows 7 recently, it's gonna be a real good time for those without it.

[QUOTE=pentium;44173726]Why the fuck are you dragging me into this? I'm just saying that regardless of what people [I]on the internet[/I] say, there will still be people using XP for years to come. Is this so much of a problem for you that you are losing sleep at night? Will you have an aneurysm if I start posting using a windows 95 machine? Point is: Why the fuck are people having such a shitfit? Give it a break because please tell me you have more pressing priorities than to harass people on the internet about their choice of OS. Even I have better things to do right now than defend a lifestyle like job applications and taxes. What are you doing on a Saturday afternoon?[/QUOTE] I don't care what OS system you use but really, the only reason to use it these days is being too lazy to change it, having no money, or having a boner for it. "Remember the paranoia that came around when Windows 98 went EOL and everyone was bitching why people were not transitioning to XP and in a few weeks the OS would be riddled with malware?" Ok? Good, the more people get out of windows 98 for an OS that's better, the better. This just forces more businesses and schools to leave. The only people who aren't effected are involved in the community that you are in, the collectors of old technology. Business's and schools are going to lose money and education because they aren't using current hardware are going to be slowed down on a massive level (Funny story, I was at a dentists office that had a computer with XP running, and it blue screened. I also worked as a cashier once, and the registers crashed [B]constantly[/B], the system used was XP. It would have been much easier to manage had they been current) When it comes to personal use, aside from collectors, people who don't understand computers that much are going to put themselves at risk, especially when they don't know as much as you. Malware isn't going to instantly infect it in mass, but it sure is way easier to get into, personal or not. and It's way slower, and very unstable. it kind of isn't a big deal that people are paranoid, its actually a really good thing. and considering XP no longer has support, people are going to jump at the chance to exploit business's with sensitive information stupid enough to use this, in fact. If I wanted to make money cheating people, I would be writing an XP hack right now. [url]http://money.cnn.com/2014/03/04/technology/security/atm-windows-xp/[/url] XP needs to go. I'm dragging you into this because you have XP and seem to have bias about it. Ok, so you haven't had any virus's, yeah cool. It's still outdated, slow, and far more prone to attacks, that doesn't make everyone else the exception.

[QUOTE=pentium;44172719]Remember the paranoia that came around when Windows 98 went EOL and everyone was bitching why people were not transitioning to XP and in a few weeks the OS would be riddled with malware? Remember how it hit EOL, nothing really happened and companies and school districts continued to use 98 up until 2010?[/QUOTE] I don't know of any companies or school districts that were using Windows 98 in 2010. A lot of them were using Windows 2000, but that had extended support until July 13, 2010.

[QUOTE=dai;44173081]question is, who the hell is writing malware for new exploits in XP still[/QUOTE] I don't think anyone will be [I]writing[/I] anything. To make a generalization, the kind of people sticking with XP are the kind of people that rogues work on, and most new rogues are just variants of existing rogues now. Strongly doubt we're gonna see anything badass coming from XP's EOL.

A lot of you people need to calm the fuck down. If someone decides to put themselves at risk by using old computers, SO BE IT. That is THEIR choice and NOT yours to make. Let them do whatever they want, and mind your own business instead.

i don't know about other nations, but i can't help but wonder, how many millions of those XP users are in brazil, considering computers here are HORRIBLY expensive(take any price you have for PC/PC parts in the US, now triple/quadruple it/and beyond). my aunt has a PC with 1GB of ram with a single core (very old) celeron with XP still lol, and it isn't even that old. :v:

[QUOTE=J!NX;44176018]blabla another boring ass rant about xp[/QUOTE] I dislike your avatar and I dislike your username and I dislike your title and I dislike your post count and I suggest changing all of them because they contain things that I do not like though I don't care if you do it or not I understand your concern about businesses and XP but christ, can't you let [I]him[/I] enjoy whatever the fuck he wants? He's biased towards XP because he. likes. it. If you tell avarage Joe using XP that XP is outdated and at risk of getting viruses he'll likely bend over and get 7 or 8.1 without any bias whatsoever because to Joe it's all the same, Pentium will not because he knows what he's doing so quit putting effort into it. You've explained your point and everyone is bored as fuck of your stupid arguing. I also really have a problem with your attitude because it seems you think your opinion about XP is fact and I agree to a certain extent that XP is outdated but god just let him use XP if he already said no I won't switch to another OS because you bitch and moan about it

You're all talking like Win 7 and 8/.1 are truly safe against viruses and other malware shit. Seriously just let everyone use what they want, its their own problem not yours.

[QUOTE=spectator1;44178350]You're all talking like Win 7 and 8/.1 are truly safe against viruses and other malware shit. Seriously just let everyone use what they want, its their own problem not yours.[/QUOTE] You don't seem to realize that security patches are the biggest security against viruses, of course Windows 7/8 aren't completely secure, I still install an anti-virus for that reason. But just an anti-virus isn't going to cut it when support ends for XP. When the support ends, it's going to be a hell of a lot more vulnerable