• Uninsured ER patients twice as likely to die.
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Can't say it isn't very surprising. [quote]CHICAGO - Uninsured patients with traumatic injuries, such as car crashes, falls and gunshot wounds, were almost twice as likely to die in the hospital as similarly injured patients with health insurance, according to a troubling new study. The findings by Harvard University researchers surprised doctors and health experts who have believed emergency room care was equitable. "This is another drop in a sea of evidence that the uninsured fare much worse in their health in the United States," said senior author Dr. Atul Gawande, a Harvard surgeon and medical journalist.[/quote] [b]Source:[/b] [url]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33971846/ns/health-health_care/[/url]
This is why you pay for health care through taxes and not insurance like us English do.
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[QUOTE=radioactive;18442431]This is why you pay for health care through taxes and not insurance like us English do.[/QUOTE] Yes but americans don't like to be taxed because they are tight.
Well, natural selection I say.
[QUOTE=Ultralast;18442491]Well, natural selection I say.[/QUOTE] natural selection has absolutely nothing to do with this
[QUOTE=Ultralast;18442491]Well, natural selection I say.[/QUOTE] You have no idea the concept of natural selection.
[QUOTE=Ultralast;18442491]Well, natural selection I say.[/QUOTE] Natural selection is survival of the fittest. Basing on who can reproduce the most has nothing to do with fatal injuries.
[QUOTE=Ultralast;18442491]Well, natural selection I say.[/QUOTE] youre a fag kill youreself lole
[QUOTE=Ultralast;18442491]Well, natural selection I say.[/QUOTE] Well, by looking at your comment, I'd say that it failed at its main point.
[QUOTE=Ultralast;18442491]Well, natural selection I say.[/QUOTE] Anybody who likes Family Guy shouldn't really be a proponent of Social Darwinism
Isn't it a given that the rich live longer than the poor
Well, I guess this is the final coffin nail for the "If you don't have insurance, emergency rooms are still required to save your life" theory. There is really no excuse for not having universal healthcare in this country except sheer greed. Hospital administrator greed, insurance company greed, and the greed of the wealthy who won't let go of a dime in taxes to help people less fortunate than them.
I wonder what the survival rate on organ donors is compared to non donors.
[QUOTE=Ultralast;18442491]Well, natural selection I say.[/QUOTE] Facepunch got Trolled. [I]Hard.[/I] :munch:
You could say its natural selection in societal form. Inb4 philosophical debate.
Well, as sad is it may seem, hospitals have to turn a profit. Helping the uninsured is generally not profitable. It seems cruel when the "products" are lives, but it is still a manner of capitalism.
[QUOTE=redonkulous;18443101]Well, as sad is it may seem, hospitals have to turn a profit. Helping the uninsured is generally not profitable.[/QUOTE] How does that make it less sad
in other news the sun did indeed rise today and will eventually set
[QUOTE=redonkulous;18443101]Well, as sad is it may seem, hospitals have to turn a profit. Helping the uninsured is generally not profitable. It seems cruel when the "products" are lives, but it is still a manner of capitalism.[/QUOTE] ...And that's why healthcare should be socialized, not left to the open market. What's good for the market, in the case of healthcare, is very bad for human life.
[QUOTE=TH89;18443257]How does that make it less sad[/QUOTE] He's saying it's sad that hospitals are cheap pricks.
[QUOTE=KarlHeinrichMarx;18443321]He's saying it's sad that hospitals are cheap pricks.[/QUOTE] Sounds to me like he's saying it's OK because it's capitalism
Well to each their own I guess. edit: Nevermind, I agree.
[QUOTE=radioactive;18442431]This is why you pay for health care through taxes and not insurance like us English do.[/QUOTE]Or, rather, this is why you get insurance. :downs:
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[QUOTE=Madman_Andre;18443033]Facepunch got Trolled. [I]Hard.[/I] :munch:[/QUOTE] The only one with a brain, it appears.
[QUOTE=Ultralast;18444283]The only one with a brain, it appears.[/QUOTE] its not trolling if you say you were trying to troll people idiot
[QUOTE=Jessesmith1;18442521]natural selection has absolutely nothing to do with this[/QUOTE] Yeah it does, you work your ass off to afford health insurance means you live. Guy next to you slacks off doings nothing because hes a dumb shit and he dies in the ER because he barely got by.
But at least they're not SOCIALIST COMMIE NAZIS with their universal health care and shit.
[QUOTE=Christarp4;18444379]its not trolling if you say you were trying to troll people idiot[/QUOTE] It's easier to enjoy if everyone realizes.
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