So basically this thread is no longer about the clearly incorrect information presented in the title and article and has instead turned into an argument over whether or not soldiers are horrible people for going to fight in a war.
Isn't this the kind of thing that warrants locks?
Nothing is going to happen until the US verifies the current state of Iran's warheads.
first poster needs to learn not to post bullshit articles.
[QUOTE=BloodYScar;34050987]And once again, I have no sympathy for any dead US soldier in this upcoming war. Question what you
are going to war for, there is no excuse for being a puppet.[/QUOTE]
I have sympathy for the Iranians though, they're defending their homeland.
Fuck iran.
[QUOTE=Ale994145;34056297]I have sympathy for the Iranians though, they're defending their homeland.[/QUOTE]
By pissing off the West?
[QUOTE=ITokez;34056319]Fuck iran.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, how dare they defend themselves.
[editline]5th January 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Electrocuter;34056348]By pissing off the West?[/QUOTE]
The west has instigated most issues in that region.
[QUOTE=AnalAnnihilator;34051106]Are you a complete fucking idiot? Do you honestly think a majority of American soldiers would want to even fight in this war? It's not their fault that they have to and you're a complete asshole for feeling no sympathy. As for being a "puppet", they don't really have a choice. It's not exactly kosher to desert.
Sure people enlist in the military for different reasons. Some might want to do it for their country, money, or whatever. That doesn't matter. Just because they signed up for it doesn't mean they don't deserve sympathy. How would you feel if your husband, wife, or other significant family member was killed in a war?
Those "puppets" as you called them happen to be the ones protecting your country when a war breaks out. Of course not American soldiers in your case, but soldiers from your country.
You're a complete asshole.[/QUOTE]
hey have you ever heard of "conscientious objection"?
[QUOTE=BloodYScar;34050987]And once again, I have no sympathy for any dead US soldier in this upcoming war. Question what you
are going to war for, there is no excuse for being a puppet.[/QUOTE]
Fuck you. Say that to a dead soldiers former unit, see what they do to you. Or rather let your family pick up the dead/dying carcass
[QUOTE=abcpea2;34056451]hey have you ever heard of "conscientious objection"?[/QUOTE]
If the majority of US soldiers conscientiously objected there wouldn't be much of an army, now would there.
Aha, funny, because according to those dudes at militaryphotos, they pointed out 2 large scale exercises involving the US military
[release]
Exercise aimed at improving operational coordination between countries’ defense systems in face of Iran’s continued pursuit of nuclear weapons.
In the face of Iran’s continued pursuit of a nuclear weapon, Israel and the United States will hold a large-scale missile defense exercise in the beginning of next year aimed at improving operational coordination between both countries’ defense systems.
Called Juniper Cobra, the exercise will be held in early 2012 and will include the Arrow 2 and Iron Dome as well as America’s THAAD (Terminal High Altitude Area Defense) and the ship-based Aegis Ballistic Missile Defense System. The exercise will likely include the actual launching of interceptors from these systems.
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The Israeli Air Force’s Air Defense Division, the United States Missile Defense Agency and the US Military’s European Command (EUCOM) have held the Juniper Cobra exercise for the past five years. The upcoming exercise though is planned to be one of the most complex and extensive yet.
Last week, Air Force commander in the EUCOM Gen.Mark Welsh visited Israel for talks with Israel Air Force commander Maj.-Gen. Ido Nehushtan, which focused also on the upcoming missile defense exercise. The last Juniper Cobra exercise was held in October 2009.
The purpose of the exercise is to create the necessary infrastructure that would enable interoperability between Israeli and American missile defense systems in case the US government decided to deploy these systems here in the event of a conflict with Iran, like it did ahead of the Gulf War in Iraq in 1991.
“Juniper Cobra shows us how to defend not only with Israeli assets but also with American assets,” Arieh Herzog, head of the Defense Ministry’s Homa Missile Defense Agency, said on Monday at the 2nd Annual Israel Multinational Missile Defense Conference near Tel Aviv.
Herzog, who will step down in January and be replaced by Yair Ramati, corporate vice president of marketing at Israel Aerospace Industries, said that Israel was facing a “growing ballistic missile threat.”
Frank Rose, the US deputy assistant secretary of state for the Bureau of Arms Control, Verification and Compliance, said the US planned to deploy another Aegis missile defense ship in the Mediterranean Sea alongside the USS Monterey, which is already deployed in the region.
He also said the US was looking to deploy an advanced X-Band radar – similar to the one the US gave Israel in 2008 – in southern Europe.
“Together we can work to protect what our adversaries would put at risk, both now and in the future,” Rose said. “Our mutual commitment to cooperation on missile defense research and development, on deploying proven technologies and weapon systems such as the Arrow, and on gaining operational experience through joint exercises and training, will go far in enhancing Israeli security and our mutual interests, and in further cementing and expanding our partnership.”
Ramati said at the conference that Israel is speeding up the development of the Arrow-3, which is supposed to serve as the upper tier missile defense system against Iranian long-range ballistic missiles.
The Arrow-3 is not expected to become operational until 2015 and the Defense Ministry will hold a first flight test of the new missile by the end of the year.
Col. Shahar Shohat, commander of the Israel Air Force’s Wing, responsible for Israel’s missile defense systems, expressed hope that the country’s enemies will realize that their investment in rockets and missiles is not worthwhile due to the deployment of new defense systems.
“This could happen if they understand that we have effective systems and they will not be able to attack what they want to attack,” he said.
Shohat added that the Iron Dome succeeded in preventing the IDF from needing to enter into a large-scale offensive in the Gaza Strip in April, following an escalation that included an anti-tank missile attack on a school bus that killed 16-yearold Daniel Viflic. Iron Dome succeeded in intercepting eight rockets fired from the Gaza Strip.
“The presence of the Iron Dome provided a response by intercepting the rockets and gave the leadership room to maneuver and make decisions without being under public pressure,” he said.[/release]
[url]http://www.jpost.com/Defense/Article.aspx?id=230974[/url]
[release]
Lt. Gen. Frank Gorenc, the commander of the US’s Third Air Force base in Germany, paid a visit to Israel to finalize plans for this spring’s joint exercise, Austere Challenge.
Lt. Gen. Gorenc came to speak with Israel’s commander of the Air Force Defense Division, Brig. Gen. Doron Gavish and to tour the defense capabilities that will participate in the exercise.
Lt. Gen. Gorenc visited the Palmachim Airbase, the Iron Dome battery, and the ITB facility in Holon, which simulates the operations of aerial defense systems at war.
Austere Challenge (AC) will involve several thousand American soldiers from the 357 US Aerial Defense Brigade visiting Israel to establish US command posts, and IDF soldiers visiting Germany to establish command posts at EUCOM (US European Command) headquarters in Stuggart.
The US will also bring its HAAD (Terminal High Altitude Area Defense) and ship-based Aegis ballistic missile defense system to Israel to simulate the interception of missile barrages against Israel. These and other US systems will work in conjunction with Israel’s Arrow, Patriot, and Iron Dome missile defense systems.
The goal of the cooperation is to establish joint task forces in preparation against a large-scale conflict in the Middle East.
Lt. Col. Dedi Meiri, Commander of the Flight Squadron in the Active Defense Wing said, "The purpose of the visit is to practice commands and mutual regulations as a part of preparation for the AC. We're showing what really goes on in the batteries and practice system cooperation and coordination in the ITB, such as Arrow and David's Sling systems.”[/release]
[url]http://www.israeldefense.com/?CategoryID=472&ArticleID=714[/url]
[QUOTE=W0w00t;34054146]"Once more into the great good night. Cry 'havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war. "[/QUOTE]
I got chills.
[QUOTE=McCarthy;34056566]Fuck you. Say that to a dead soldiers former unit, see what they do to you. Or rather let your family pick up the dead/dying carcass[/QUOTE]
What exactly are you proving with this?
[QUOTE=McCarthy;34056566]Fuck you. Say that to a dead soldiers former unit, see what they do to you. Or rather let your family pick up the dead/dying carcass[/QUOTE]
"I sign up for military and expect not to be shot at by the enemy! If I get shot feel bad for me because I sacrafised my life as a pawn for arrogant politicians policing the world."
didn't we just get done over there
[QUOTE=dickpickle;34056838]"I sign up for military and expect not to be shot at by the enemy! If I get shot feel bad for me because I sacrafised my life as a pawn for arrogant politicians policing the world."[/QUOTE]
It's easy to sit on your fat ass and say this kind of shit. These "pawns" have way more balls than you will ever have.
[QUOTE=Native Hunter;34056848]didn't we just get done over there[/QUOTE]
you're still in Afghanistan and US Supreme leader Israel wants more out of you.
[editline]5th January 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;34056881]It's easy to sit on your fat ass and say this kind of shit. These "pawns" have way more balls than you will ever have.[/QUOTE]
What does that have to do with anything, are you just randomly throwing shit at me now?
[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;34056881]It's easy to sit on your fat ass and say this kind of shit. These "pawns" have way more balls than you will ever have.[/QUOTE]
I like how the only arguments you guys have against anyone who has any negativity with the military is internet toughguy bullshit.
Suicide Bombers have more balls than me too btw.
[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;34057074]
Suicide Bombers have more balls than me too btw.[/QUOTE]
At this point in time, they have more intelligence, empathy and sense than you too.
Edit: Please dumbvote this, it lets me see who to avoid in my tenure here.
[QUOTE=mediocrity;34057189]At this point in time, they have more intelligence and sense than you too.[/QUOTE]
mega pwnage
you showed him big time
[QUOTE=JustExtreme;34053066]I wish the US would stop trying to impose its agenda on the rest of the world[/QUOTE]
Don't say the US, say the people that are in control are the ones imposing their agenda on most of the world, it gives people that aren't greedy, power hungry assholes a bad name. Basically, it makes everyone else look like shitheads.
Everyone who wasnt a tool (and kept up with current events) saw this coming
[QUOTE=dickpickle;34056838]"I sign up for military and expect not to be shot at by the enemy! If I get shot feel bad for me because I sacrafised my life as a pawn for arrogant politicians policing the world."[/QUOTE]
Um, people sign up knowing full well they might get shot at, they just don't want to actually [I]die[/I]. Only in some kind of bizarro world would accepting risk inherent to a job be a forfeiture of any sympathy if you actually get hurt. People who do construction work know there are hazards, but you'd be a colossal asshole for refusing to show any sympathy for an accidentally killed construction worker simply because he knew it could happen. Policemen, too, are in a high-risk job- would you really say that a policeman shot dead by a street gang deserves no sympathy? Or what about a firefighter who dies trying to save people from a burning building? 'Too bad, so sad, his fault because he knew it might happen'?
[QUOTE=SpaceGhost;34057678]Don't say the US, say the people that are in control are the ones imposing their agenda on most of the world, it gives people that aren't greedy, power hungry assholes a bad name. Basically, it makes everyone else look like shitheads.[/QUOTE]
Alright,
I wish Israel would stop trying to impose its agenda on the rest of the world
[QUOTE=Mattk50;34058136]Everyone who wasnt a tool (and kept up with current events) saw this coming[/QUOTE]
EXCEPT THE PEOPLE WHO READ THE THREAD THAT KNOWS THAT THIS IS FAKE
Godamnit USA, godamnit....Why must we make other countries hate us even more?
[QUOTE=XZXk;34058727]Godamnit USA, godamnit....Why must we make other countries hate us even more?[/QUOTE]
Did you not read the thread?
[QUOTE=BloodYScar;34050987]And once again, I have no sympathy for any dead US soldier in this upcoming war. Question what you
are going to war for, there is no excuse for being a puppet.[/QUOTE]
You would expect a Gold Member to know better than that, wouldn't you?
[QUOTE=ewitwins;34059460]You would expect a Gold Member to know better than that, wouldn't you?[/QUOTE]
no
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