UK may introduce one-year 'learner stage' for new drivers under 19
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I can somewhat understand curfews, but im from the US and things may be different here.
The reason i think curfews for new drivers are good, is mainly because they arent going to be used to recognizing when they should slow down a bit. Basically meaning sharp/blind corners, roads with tall grass right beside them, etc. As a result of this, i believe newer drivers are at a higher risk of hitting an animal.
They also arent trained to spot animals in the dark. Most people say to just look for glowing eyes, but a good 50% of the time (when i see animals at night anyways,) they arent looking towards me.
Some drivers may be good from the start and do all that good, ive been a pretty good night driver from the start. But 75% of the kids i took Drivers Ed with had enough trouble driving during the day, let alone the night
Good for you guys, drivers need more education here.. so many shit drivers here.. people driving on the shoulder or into other peoples lanes.
They fucking need it the amount of little cunts that drive around without a clue and daddys bought them a nice car really fuck me. Many mirrors will be smashed off when I get on my motorbike.
[QUOTE=laserguided;42486112]Good for you guys, drivers need more education here.. so many shit drivers here.. people driving on the shoulder or into other peoples lanes.[/QUOTE]
should see it here, I try entering a busy motorway and I need to merge into the lanes but there's tons of these smartasses that speed as you're about to merge and don't give way to you
[QUOTE=Flem;42486141]They fucking need it the amount of little cunts that drive around without a clue and daddys bought them a nice car really fuck me. Many mirrors will be smashed off when I get on my motorbike.[/QUOTE]
Naw you'd just go down. I almost got hit by some guy opening his door while I was lane splitting. (Lane splitting is illegal here) but I disregard traffic laws.
[QUOTE=laserguided;42486149]Naw you'd just go down. I almost got hit by some guy opening his door while I was lane splitting. (Lane splitting is illegal here) but I disregard traffic laws.[/QUOTE]
there is nothing wrong with lane splitting if you do it sensibly I dunno why some driver are cunts about, so what Im going ahead of you ya should of bought a bike too :D
Young brits won't like this at all but at the end of the day it's for their own good.
[QUOTE=NorthernFall;42482792]As a young driver i'm kind of divided about this, I prefer the idea of having either a full license and be 100% fully qualified or not. There shouldn't really be a greyish area/ middle ground in licensing something that not only affects you but hundreds of other people around you on the road. If you have to stick p-plates on your car after you passed you shouldn't really be driving. That way you can be fully sure that everyone else on the road is at the same level of skill or above that depending on years of experience.
How about raising the standard of the tests instead?
Also £20 says this isn't going to do fuck all to insurance costs. When they passed that motion saying that Male and Female insurance prices should be the same I saw literally no change in the quotes. I get absolutely shafted by insurance costs for my Peugeot 206, my first year of driving cost me something stupid like £1300 ($2077) when the car itself was £1000, not to mention the high excess basically means I'd have to pay for anything short of writing off the car myself. Being a male driver under 21 in this country means you pay up to £1500 just for a piece of paper that's only use is not being arrested for being uninsured.[/QUOTE]
You're a lucky one then, minimum quotes I got was around £2500, most of them were above £4000
We already have a probationary period for new drivers anyway - the new drivers' act. If you get 6 points on your license within 2 yrs of passing your test, you get revoked and have to take your test again. This doesn't punish those who are good and obey the law, but it does punish those who deserve it.
[QUOTE=Bengley;42486486]We already have a probationary period for new drivers anyway - the new drivers' act. If you get 6 points on your license within 2 yrs of passing your test, you get revoked and have to take your test again. This doesn't punish those who are good and obey the law, but it does punish those who deserve it.[/QUOTE]
The great thing is, things like that do jack shit for people like me who have earned their licence, but have not been able to drive for over two years anyway putting us outside the probationary period :v:
I honestly can't see this solving the problems at all, it's nice to see them doing something about it I guess, but there are much larger issues with the driving population than this tackles. For example, my dad in more recent years has become borderline dangerous as a driver, even with years of experience and a career driving HGVs he still drives like a total cock (we've nearly hit quite a few people because of him not seeing them or being impatient). I think something to deal with drivers as they get older might solve more road accidents than dealing with new drivers awfully.
Licensing should be based on driving ability, not an arbitrary time limit. I'm glad I've already got my license.
They should focus instead on making the tests more consistent - some of the lads my age who have passed are absolutely horrendous drivers, while I've got a friend who's fairly competent and cautious who failed her first two driving tests because of stupid minor things.
There also ought to be repeat tests for middle-aged drivers, every five or ten years or so, because there's obviously a tendency for bad habits to grow throughout your driving career. I get cut up much worse by fat old hags in BMWs than the local boy racers.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;42486145]should see it here, I try entering a busy motorway and I need to merge into the lanes but there's tons of these smartasses that speed as you're about to merge and don't give way to you[/QUOTE]
worse in nsw where they know you have to do 30km/h under the speed limit and they wont let you in
I don't like this, mostly the curfew. The rest is fine. Driving at night is way easier, there's less cars on the road, and if there's cars they're really obvious because of their lights.
I'm 20 years old and I have a Mazda RX8 and a Peugeot 207 at £2800 a year for both.
To be honest I think this will increase insurance prices even further because the bracket for 'boy racers' will be increased from 17 -20 to 19-something if that's actually what they are going for.
I also disagree that increasing the standards of tests would work because the very moment I no longer had an instructor in the car I relaxed on my driving. I drive with one hand most of the time etc, just little habits that you can't do in a test because it'd fail you.
I kind of like the curfew idea though because I live next to a dual carriage way and quite often after 11pm a fair few loud (not fast) cars decide to try themselves out on the large straight.
[QUOTE=Bengley;42483778]It's age discrimination. There are plenty of 18 year olds who have only been driving a few months who are safer drivers than some middle aged drivers. If this is trying to target 'boy racers' then they're going the wrong way about it - people will just be 'boy racers' a couple of years later.[/QUOTE]
While I don't deny that age and experience certainly matter while driving an automobile, it is mostly a personality thing. Shitty drivers will continue to be shitty drivers regardless of if they are 17 or 34. This is mostly because it has less to do with not knowing how to do things correctly and more to do with just making bad decisions and choosing [B]not[/B] to do said things correctly.
Unfortunately a lot of people make the conscience decision to text and drive, or fuck around with friends, and in general do a lot of distracting things, and chances are they will always do stupid shit.
Fuck that I passed after 20 hours of driving lessons at 20 quid a pop
Sod 120 hours of supervision.
[QUOTE=fruxodaily;42485782]same thing in QLD, however NSW has speed restriction for learners and provisional drivers of no more than 80km/h[/QUOTE]
Nah, it's only 80 for learners. 90 for P1 and 100 for P2
[QUOTE=ThisIsTheOne;42497024]Nah, it's only 80 for learners. 90 for P1 and 100 for P2[/QUOTE]
its 90 for learners now they increased it, can't even overtake the fuckers legally anymore
17 in a few months. I hate you government.
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