• Civilian Who Provoked Outrage After Wearing a Military Uniform Speaks Out
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[QUOTE=Levinx;44359670]Some people don't understand, it's more than just a uniform.[/QUOTE] Does it have hidden features? All I see there is a uniform.
[QUOTE=TheAdmiester;44360396]Does it have hidden features? All I see there is a uniform.[/QUOTE] That's exactly his point. You see the uniform, not the person wearing it. Whenever someone sees a uniform, they only see the uniform and what that uniform represents. It's a symbolic thing. For example, when I was flying home on temporary duty after basic training, people everywhere would stop me and thank me for my service. They didn't just casually converse with me, or even ask my name, they just felt it was their obligation to do so because they saw the uniform and the sacrifice and honor it represents to them.
this sick fake probably had a 10th prestige patch on too
There's quite a lot of these german army jackets worn around the UK from what I've seen. I wear mine when doing dirty work like gardening, painting, washing etc so haven't really ran into any angry veterans as of yet but honestly it's just clothing and to be fair the jacket is very spacious and warm for what it is. If you've ever bought clothing chances are you're going to want to wear it at some point instead of letting it gather dust unless you're a collector or something.
[QUOTE=NuclearJesus;44359682]I can sympathize. I often catch shit for wearing my Rangers uniform in public. People need to grow up, and realize that it's homage, and we're not hurting anybody. [img]http://cdn-www.i-am-bored.com/media/overweightpowerranger.jpg[/img] Fuck the haters, I NEED THIS.[/QUOTE] How. Why. I-I-I have nothing else to say.
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;44358677]those meatheads need to grow up. who gives a shit if he's wearing an army uniform? not like he was wearing medals or whatever (and even that is a stupid thing to get angry about unless they're using it for nefarious reasons) [editline]26th March 2014[/editline] then sending threats to the cops lol. really doing the uniform proud fellas.[/QUOTE] Look at it from their point of view. To them, that uniform isn't just a piece of clothing. It's something thats meant to be earned, and so are a uniforms' patches. That guy didn't earn that uniform nor the patches on it, so to them it was like the guy was throwing them a big middle finger.
[QUOTE=Levinx;44359670]Some people don't understand, it's more than just a uniform.[/QUOTE] A uniform is just a uniform. A soldiers uniform is no more important than that of a postman or a bus driver.
[QUOTE=_Maverick_;44359011]Maybe they assumed it's like wearing a police officers uniform (which is impersonating an officer.)[/QUOTE] That's pretty different though because cops have legal authority to enforce the law, while soldiers don't (As far as I know) [QUOTE=Taggart;44360133]That's disrespectful.[/QUOTE] So? [editline]26th March 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;44363217]Look at it from their point of view. To them, that uniform isn't just a piece of clothing. It's something thats meant to be earned, and so are a uniforms' patches. That guy didn't earn that uniform nor the patches on it, so to them it was like the guy was throwing them a big middle finger.[/QUOTE] They're still aggressive idiots with absolutely no justification
[QUOTE=Trunk Monkay;44363217]Look at it from their point of view. To them, that uniform isn't just a piece of clothing. It's something thats meant to be earned, and so are a uniforms' patches. That guy didn't earn that uniform nor the patches on it, so to them it was like the guy was throwing them a big middle finger.[/QUOTE] dumb pov tho
The way I see it, you can't really blame soldiers for acting irrationally about matters like this. You see cloth, he sees his buddies who didn't make it home. I think it's more offensive to attack the soldiers for acting out than it was for them to attack the guy for wearing some patches and a uniform. I know the guy meant no harm, but the guys who were yelling at him aren't just doing it to be dicks, that uniform has meaning to them that only people who have been through what they have can understand. I feel bad for the guy who got yelled at, but I don't blame the soldiers for yelling at him.
[QUOTE=Sobotnik;44363220]A uniform is just a uniform. A soldiers uniform is no more important than that of a postman or a bus driver.[/QUOTE] Lol nah. Yeah sure it's a uniform but its one that carries a lot more implications and symbolism then a bus drivers uniform.
Here's a guy that idolizes the military, and they respond with threats Classy as hell
[QUOTE=Zeke129;44363327]Here's a guy that idolizes the military, and they respond with threats Classy as hell[/QUOTE] Idolizes the military SO MUCH he can't even wear the uniform properly!
Wearing a rank he did not earn, wearing a unit's patch that he was not a part of, wearing some accolades that he did not earn either. You don't go around wearing a full police officer's uniform in public like that. I can understand those veterans' outbursts but what they did was too extreme, the dumbass even got arrested for yelling at the poor guy.
[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;44363740]You don't go around wearing a full police officer's uniform in public like that[/QUOTE] That's more because the police have actual authority over the public
thats not even really a uniform [t]http://asp.militarygear.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/green.jpg[/t] if he was wearing something like this, ya maybe point him out, but those are just BDU's [editline]26th March 2014[/editline] he shouldn't have been wearing any patches though out of respect
[QUOTE=Sableye;44363791]thats not even really a uniform [t]http://asp.militarygear.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/green.jpg[/t] if he was wearing something like this, ya maybe point him out, but those are just BDU's [editline]26th March 2014[/editline] he shouldn't have been wearing any patches though out of respect[/QUOTE] Dude, the U in BDU stands for 'Uniform'...that's just a dress uniform.
he was justified being put on blast. This is not the way to show support.
I hope they feel tough for yelling at and threatening a special needs individual. What's next, threatening and cursing at little kids playing army with camo in their yard? I understand being upset. I truly do. But the guy in the video went in guns blazing without getting the facts. Now that the facts are out there that this is a special needs person it puts a whole new perspective on things.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;44363327]Here's a guy that idolizes the military, and they respond with threats Classy as hell[/QUOTE] I idolize people with mental disabilities and how they carry on everyday. I'm going to act just like them to show my support! No ones more classier than me
[QUOTE=evilweazel;44363495]Idolizes the military SO MUCH he can't even wear the uniform properly![/QUOTE] He has developmental issues who cares He deserved none of this backlash
[QUOTE=Sally;44363907]I idolize people with mental disabilities and how they carry on everyday. I'm going to act just like them to show my support! No ones more classier than me[/QUOTE] are you seriously making this comparison. then again, your ban log speaks a ton about you this is probably one of the more revolting ableist posts i've seen on fp.
[QUOTE=DaysBefore;44363224]So?[/QUOTE] So it's perfectly understandable that veterans who actually earned these tabs, served in units, and know their shit, would not be too pleased about it? And the fact that he isn't just disrespecting them by wearing the uniform without the knowledge of what's on it, but he flat out REFUSES to remove the Ranger tab in front of an actual Ranger veteran. You can't really get much more disrespectful than that.
I thought that soldiers were supposed to be more disciplined then us civilians.
[QUOTE=Taggart;44364448]You can't really get much more disrespectful than that.[/QUOTE] Again So If these harden veteran soldiers can't handle a little disrespect from a mentally challenged military enthusiast then maybe they weren't great soldiers
This is way less offensive than the soldiers putting cutie marks on their uniforms and shit like that, this guy has an actual disability and I don't know how you can issue threats.
I don't approve of how the Rangers reacted, but I still think that the guy doing that deserves to be called out. In the military we train extremely hard to earn our uniform, and then we fight and die in them. It's a symbol of what we've accomplished, and what we're willing to do to support that uniform. In my eyes anyone that just buys the uniform and wears it without having earned it is being disrespectful in one way or another. Maybe I'm just moto about it.
[QUOTE=DaysBefore;44364665]If these harden veteran soldiers can't handle a little disrespect from a mentally challenged military enthusiast then maybe they weren't great soldiers[/QUOTE] I'm guessing that you haven't served in any unit that involves requiring special qualifications, because you pretty much have no understanding of the weight behind these tabs nor empathy for those that do. Mentally challenged or not, the guy isn't just wearing a unit patch for a unit he didn't serve in. He's wearing a unit patch alongside a Ranger tab, while his unit patch is NOT a Ranger unit, and he hasn't earned the Ranger tab. Actual Rangers, who have got the qualification, know what you have to go through to get that tab, and have had friends and family die wearing the tab. If he was wearing the tab alongside the unit patch of an ACTUAL Ranger unit, he probably wouldn't have angered the Rangers so much. But nah, obviously because they got a little emotional at some guy with literally no knowledge of the stuff he's put on his uniform, which they have legitimately earned through hard work alongside friends and family who have died wearing that tab, they aren't great soldiers. Because your response to someone disrespecting your unit (especially in the fashion this guy is) directly dictates how good you are at your job.
so fashionable they're to die for
[QUOTE=DaysBefore;44364665]Again So If these harden veteran soldiers can't handle a little disrespect from a mentally challenged military enthusiast then maybe they weren't great soldiers[/QUOTE] How can you sympathize with one side but not the other? Yeah, they were harden soldiers, now they are home and are trying to deal with all of the mental damage that years in the service can do to you. They are trying to be normal people again and in some cases they are fragile or downright broken due to PTSD. You're saying that the guy wearing the uniform is mentally handicapped and so strangers who don't even know that should treat him with kitten gloves while soldiers who've come home and sometimes deal with PTSD should be treated even more harshly for having done it?
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