Phil Fish blows a gasket, tells media member to "kill himself" - FEZ 2 CANCELED, owned?
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[QUOTE=Kai-ryuu;41619974]i like the guy because he somehow managed to piss off the entire legion of spergs over at r/gaming with basically one sentence.[/QUOTE]
Don't they get pissed at everything?
[QUOTE=J!NX;41619984]Don't they get pissed at everything?[/QUOTE]
not as much as they did at phil
[QUOTE=Cosine;41619944]While Fish definitely has anger issues, critics and gamers/consumers are giving an incredibly unwarranted and toxic response. Overall it's really a disgusting situation and I'm disappointed in not only Phil, but everyone else: the people who provoked him, the people who mocked him, and the people who are happy that he's gone.
Gaming has lost someone. Even if gaming doesn't need Phil as its savior, there's still a little bit of gaming that's missing.[/QUOTE]
Saying gaming has lost someone because Phil Fish fucked off means just as much as saying Gaming lost someone when The War Z went to shit.
[QUOTE=Cosine;41619944]While Fish definitely has anger issues, critics and gamers/consumers are giving an incredibly unwarranted and toxic response. Overall it's really a disgusting situation and I'm disappointed in not only Phil, but everyone else: the people who provoked him, the people who mocked him, and the people who are happy that he's gone.
Gaming has lost someone. Even if gaming doesn't need Phil as its savior, there's still a little bit of gaming that's missing.[/QUOTE]
when gaming lost stellar stone, it was a loss to all gamers across the globe
never again will we see new titles to rival their past glory like Big Rigs and Remington Big Buck Trophy Hunt
[QUOTE=Carnage2323;41620121]when gaming lost stellar stone, it was a loss to all gamers across the globe
never again will we see new titles to rival their past glory like Big Rigs and Remington Big Buck Trophy Hunt[/QUOTE]
say what you like about fez it was a [b]functional game[/b]
as opposed to a game where bridges didn't work and there was no speed limit when you reversed your truck
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;41620087]Saying gaming has lost someone because Phil Fish fucked off means just as much as saying Gaming lost someone when The War Z went to shit.[/QUOTE]
Went to shit? That game never looked anything but shit.
[QUOTE=Generic Monk;41620183]say what you like about fez it was a [b]functional game[/b]
as opposed to a game where bridges didn't work and there was no speed limit when you reversed your truck[/QUOTE]
functional don't mean much, even bad rats is functional
[QUOTE=Cosine;41619944]While Fish definitely has anger issues, critics and gamers/consumers are giving an incredibly unwarranted and toxic response. Overall it's really a disgusting situation and I'm disappointed in not only Phil, but everyone else: the people who provoked him, the people who mocked him, and the people who are happy that he's gone.
Gaming has lost someone. Even if gaming doesn't need Phil as its savior, there's still a little bit of gaming that's missing.[/QUOTE]
See, here's the thing with Fish, from my perspective.
Like someone on page 1 said, he's blunt when receiving actual criticism. That part, I don't mind so much - I'm about baseball bat levels of blunt myself.
But he overreacts. On the "well it's still not exactly hateworthy" end of things, he'll go off on a tirade if IGN or whatever gives the game a bad review. On the "fuck this guy" end, he'll launch into the same hateful tirade if he catches wind of someone on Twitter going "Y'know, I didn't really like Fez all that much", even though that random Twitter user likely holds FAR less weight than IGN, or even Notch (who apparently likes the game), and isn't even necessarily saying it's a bad game.
Holy shit they've already changed his Wiki
People don't like you? Cancel the game they weren't gonna play anyways!
At least Peter Molyneux can ship a game without shitting his pants
Fil Phish makes Molyneux look sane.
[QUOTE=Generic Monk;41619521]Essentially fish is either like me (depressive, says things in socially unacceptable ways, temperamental) and needs help (which I do and freely admit I do) or is like you all say (egotistical douche with a massive superiority complex) and needs help. Either way it's gonna be hard for him in different ways (therapy is hard, I've been and it's difficult to open up to someone so they can revel and help you to fix your faults) - but the guy has... something and it'd be shit if he just faded away.[/QUOTE]
uhhh sorry this isnt a venue to vent your depression and empathize to retarded game developers
250 gigaLELs
[QUOTE=Skyward;41620331]Fil Phish makes Molyneux look sane.[/QUOTE]
Molyneux gets shit from fans; "I'm trying guys, I really am. I'm gonna knock the next one out of the park"
Fish gets shit from fans; "cya nerds B) [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wNDcVjWd_Q[/url]"
[QUOTE=Skyward;41620331]Fil Phish makes Molyneux look sane.[/QUOTE]
Comparing Molyneux to Fish is an insult to Molyneux.
Oh don't get me wrong, I actually really think Molyneux's an awesome guy. Just a tad crazy :v:
[QUOTE=3noneTwo;41618879]Annoying Gamer's rant was not the reason, but the straw that broke the camel's back. He receives an incredible amount of hate from Twitter, on his website, and all over the internet, and has done so for years. Some people can brush off/deal with the hate, others can't - and will often handle it very poorly. He's seemingly chosen to give up game development entirely in an attempt to weed that sort of poisonous hate out of his life.
A lot of people are celebrating this as if it's a good thing. It isn't. It's schoolyard-grade bullshit, from everyone.[/QUOTE]
this post from the other thread pretty much sums up what I think
I mean read his tweets and tell me that's not someone who's upset
I can only wait until he does another Twitter post saying
"Fez II coming out still! Ah, got you, you fucking ingrates!"
In the general hysteric and blunt manner.
Molyneux is a good dev but he doesn't have nearly enough talent to pull off his crazy promises. Doesn't help that he never shuts up about his games which always leads to several lies.
Phil Fish is an ultra-novice dev who thought of a single interesting concept and did not have nearly enoguh vision and talent to pull it off. Doesn't help that he never shuts up about himself which always leads to insults and eventually this.
So the guy clearly has anger/mental issues, and people keep making it worse by being obnoxious over each comment he makes. It's annoying that everyone is saying his attitude is only his fault; he's received a lot of flak and backed himself into a corner. I don't know anyone who honestly loves doing this to people.
[QUOTE=PirateMax;41616296]Just for the unaware his twitter picture is of [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Kaufman"]Andy Kaufman[/URL], a comedian best known for his extreme hoaxes and super harsh humor. It's like Blowfish likes to be exactly like him, but sadly enough he just comes off as an asshole.[/QUOTE]
How can you actually use this excuse when he just officially canceled his own fucking game over some criticism. People probably get way harsher crits from highly respectable people and don't act anywhere near this level of immaturity.
He isn't funny and he never has been, he digs his hole deeper and deeper the more he talks and he isn't winning any hearts and minds of any kind by doing so. He sets a bad example for everyone else too.
I bet he'll return, telling how indifferent he is to people's critics and accusating them for why he left at first. Thinking this would be a good enough excuse, he'll continue being a dick and consider himself a victim.
What a pussy
To all the people saying that Fish got a lot of unwarranted hate, or that the journalist's comments were out of line, the thing is that that's simply something you have to deal with if you're going to take up a creative industry.
The most important thing when entering a creative field is that you [B]NEED[/B] to have a thick hide. There's no way around it. No matter what you do, you are always going to catch some negative criticism. As an artist, you need to have the ability to shrug it off, or use what they say to improve on what you've done.
Yes, it can get you down, there's no doubt about it, but really your only option is to suck it up.
The way Phil acted just goes to show that he is not at all cut out to be a game developer. Anyone can have a great idea that they're really passionate about, but if you plan on releasing it to the world you need to be able to withstand the criticism you will inevitably receive.
Well, nothing of value was lost. The world moves on and hopefully he fals into obscurity.
I'm not going to comment too much on my opinion of all this because it's pointless but I am going to quickly say, anyone truly spitting trash to Fish of the explicit message being that he should kill himself, is really sick. Even if everything said negatively about Phil Fish were true (and it's certainly not always), he's still just a game designer that got into the industry to follow his dreams. How anything done in such a domain could be so evil for you to take justifiable pleasure in the participants suicide, I truly have no idea and I am positive you don't either.
Even if this is a bitch-fit, many of you are being ridiculously mean. It doesn't matter if he "earned it" or if "IT'S A TASTE OF HIS OWN MEDICINE". Much of the complaints on display here are because he can't handle himself maturely in these public sitautions, and that's true, but when this complaint is followed by the cruel, chilidish and almost invariably less mature insults of the "kill yourself phil!!!! you suck!!" likes, you must understand how hypocritical this sounds.
If Phil is really wrong here and just being a "bitch", you'd be best not to indulge him with examples for why he is right and just move on. I think Phil handled all of this poorly, but fuck, I'm not telling some dude that handles public situations poorly how horrible he is and how he sucks and he should kill himself.
That's fucking sick.
he shouldn't kill himself, thats retarded to say
he just needs to stop posting on twitter and grow up, and stop making games.
[QUOTE=SourBree;41620745]I'm not going to comment too much on my opinion of all this because it's pointless but I am going to quickly say, anyone truly spitting trash to Fish of the explicit message being that he should kill himself, is really sick. Even if everything said negatively about Phil Fish were true (and it's certainly not always), he's still just a game designer that got into the industry to follow his dreams. How anything done in such a domain could be so evil for you to take justifiable pleasure in the participants suicide, I truly have no idea and I am positive you don't either.
Even if this is a bitch-fit, many of you are being ridiculously mean. It doesn't matter if he "earned it" or if "IT'S A TASTE OF HIS OWN MEDICINE". Much of the complaints on display here are because he can't handle himself maturely in these public sitautions, and that's true, but when this complaint is followed by the cruel, chilidish and almost invariably less mature insults of the "kill yourself phil!!!! you suck!!" likes, you must understand how hypocritical this sounds.
If Phil is really wrong here and just being a "bitch", you'd be best not to indulge him with examples for why he is right and just move on. I think Phil handled all of this poorly, but fuck, I'm not telling some dude that handles public situations poorly how horrible he is and how he sucks and he should kill himself.
That's fucking sick.[/QUOTE]
I agree for the most part.
I suppose it's hard to expect maturity from others when he himself has a hard time being the least bit mature.
As much of a wanker as this guy has been, I think at least some of it is due to the response the Internet has given him, all the hate and insults surely couldn't have made him better.
Regardless, I believe this is just him overreacting and I would not be surprised at all to see him return in like a month or so.
[QUOTE=J!NX;41620758]
he just needs to stop posting on twitter and grow up, and stop making games.[/QUOTE]
He needs to stop posting stupid shit on twitter, and in that way yes, grow up.
Not stop making games, that's retarded to say.
[QUOTE=SourBree;41620825]He needs to stop posting stupid shit on twitter, and in that way yes, grow up.
Not stop making games, that's retarded to say.[/QUOTE]
ok
stop making shitty games, and stop making shitty posts and since thats probably too hard for him... first he should stop all together, grow up, and THEN get back onto track.
EA is bad enough with the gaming industry, and Phil Fish only makes it worse by acting as if he's all that.
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