[QUOTE=thelurker1234;46522120]Are you implying socialist states don't use deception? Again, this isn't something unique.[/QUOTE]
do u get ur kicks from defending indefensible crap in order to look enlightened or something like that
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;46521838]You know not all fascists scream in favor of genocide and murder of other ethnicities, right?[/QUOTE]
indirectly they all do
[QUOTE=Bradyns;46520863]Doesn't look long enough to be Denmarks flag.[/QUOTE]
It's actually the Swiss flag very close up.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;46522076]Some schools have been planning to teach it in schools I heard, once the copyright expires[/QUOTE]
If anything then annotated excerpts. I don't think anyone would actually add the book as a whole to the curriculum considering how much WWII stuff is already in there.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;46522120]Are you implying socialist states don't use deception? Again, this isn't something unique.[/QUOTE]
don't you think it's maybe a touch deceptive to refuse any sort of public election, violently invade other countries for economic stimulus and nationalist distractions, suppress unhelpful news, install autocrats, or purposefully deprive citizens of any non-nationalist sense of identity on every level
[QUOTE=Teddybeer;46522200]Probably renew it in a sneaky way.[/QUOTE]
They really can't without screwing everyone over in regards to copyright law.
It's possible they may ban it from being displayed publicly using the Nazi insignia law though.
Apart from that books can't be censored for youth threatening content.
[QUOTE=Killuah;46522225]indirectly they all do[/QUOTE]
you shut your mouth shooting up people from other countries on nationalist and most likely ethnic criteria is not IN ANY WAY GENOCIDAL
if ur on the fence on the subject of fascism with the excuse "hey maybe it really isn't that bad we just gotta stop judging ppl" then you need to:
- stop being a coward
- do your homework on the subject, fast
or just stop jacking yourself all the time with your devil advocate arguments, that'd be nice too
[QUOTE=Cone;46522276]you shut your mouth shooting up people from other countries on nationalist and most likely ethnic criteria is not IN ANY WAY GENOCIDAL[/QUOTE]
Are we talking about fascism, or the NSDAP? If it's the NSDAP, yes, what that group did was absolutely horrid and indefensible.
there's no difference because fascist governments take advantage of a problem a majority is facing in order to gain popularity and then proceed to shit on everyone else once they're in power
[QUOTE=Tamschi;46522052]Yes, but the definition of what is illegal is very specific, for obvious reasons.
If you examine the demonstrations carefully (and compare with e.g. Neo-Nazis in the USA), you'll notice that they actually don't have any Nazi insignia whatsoever - strictly speaking.
What they use is either older or newer, and for that reason not forbidden.
Germany doesn't newly censor anything that isn't blatant hate-speech, violating someone's personal rights or a violent video game or movie.
Even Mein Kampf is technically not censored, (I think) Bavaria has just keeping it out of publication because they have the copyright.
I wonder what's going to happen when it runs out next year :v:[/QUOTE]
I got an uncensored copy from 1939. It was a cool read. [sp](Wait! I didn't mean it like that!) :v:[/sp]
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;46522021]Do you know how many countries were invaded by communists and capitalists as well? All of them have blood on their hands.
I'm not really here to say "you should all be fascists it's gr8", but honestly it's somewhat like the red scare in the early cold war. Much like communism, capitalism, anarchism, etc., there's good and bad aspects to the ideologies.[/QUOTE]
Good and bad aspects my ass.
The point you should consider is that me and the majority of my countrymen would rather fucking die than let fascism gain a foothold in our lives.
We dont take that stance because we reject fascisms alleged good side, but because fascists have actively tried to subjugate our nation in the past.
[QUOTE=Sprockethead;46522423]Good and bad aspects my ass.
The point you should consider is that me and the majority of my countrymen would rather fucking die than let fascism gain a foothold in our lives.
We dont take that stance because we reject fascisms alleged good side, but because fascists have actively tried to subjugate our nation in the past.[/QUOTE]
That's pretty understandable, and most modern day fascists groups are just like the nazis were. What I'm saying is that the school of thought itself isn't completely reprehensible, not that those that follow it aren't for the most part horrible.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;46522365]Are we talking about fascism, or the NSDAP? If it's the NSDAP, yes, what that group did was absolutely horrid and indefensible.[/QUOTE]
are you not aware that fascism relies on invading other countries with the end goal of being the one on top to generate its national pride? fascism is all about using war as a political tool, it's the entire basis for its autocratic government leaders, industry, and way of life. a fascist state that doesn't kill people at least intermittently is not a fascist state
[editline]19th November[/editline]
why do you think Nazi Germany declared war on most of the world? that wasn't some evil chessmaster plan, that was just their political ideology
Oh my god so hilarious i cant stop laughing. This is a great idea just look at them how confused the are haha :D
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;46522457]That's pretty understandable, and most modern day fascists groups are just like the nazis were. What I'm saying is that the school of thought itself isn't completely reprehensible, not that those that follow it aren't for the most part horrible.[/QUOTE]
honest question - do you think fascists would accept a person like you (i.e. a person who whacks off to anime/mlp/whatever)
if it's ok or not is another question, do u think they would accept u
[QUOTE=Ownederd;46522472]honest question - do you think fascists would accept a person like you (i.e. a person who whacks off to anime/mlp/whatever)[/QUOTE]
Fuck no. I don't jack it to mlp or anime, but depending on how strict they are I'd probably be called a degenerate. The majority are cunts, so I'm probably a disgusting degenerate.
[QUOTE=Cone;46522464]are you not aware that fascism relies on invading other countries with the end goal of being the one on top to generate its national pride? fascism is all about using war as a political tool, it's the entire basis for its autocratic government leaders, industry, and way of life. a fascist state that doesn't kill people at least intermittently is not a fascist state
[editline]19th November[/editline]
why do you think Nazi Germany declared war on most of the world? that wasn't some evil chessmaster plan, that was just their political ideology[/QUOTE]
That was part of their whole self-sufficiency shit. The idea was to kill off/displace the populaces of lands invaded and to replace them/force their labour in order to create a self-sufficient nation.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;46522457]That's pretty understandable, and most modern day fascists groups are just like the nazis were. What I'm saying is that the school of thought itself isn't completely reprehensible, not that those that follow it aren't for the most part horrible.[/QUOTE]
No really, this is not one of those things you can be all "But maybe we can find the good side in this?", If you call yourself a fascist, everyone in the world has the right to spit in your face and laugh, given the fact that fascists left a big chunk of the fucking world in ruins.
and frankly people who attempt to sympathize with its doctrine look like fucking morons.
[B]date:[/B] 01 A.E. (after enlightenment)
thelurker1234 smiled with delight as the new regime's forces waltzed victoriously through the streets, liberating the common folk from the chains of cultural marxism and political correctness -"at long last we are free"- he lisped as he witnessed the blackshirts rounding up the arabs, blacks, gypsies and SJW scum -"now, to do my part" he said, empowered, as he turned on his computer with the utmost determination, dedicating every part of his being to watching only the best regime-approved™ anime and bravely posting on internet forums.
[I]he was shipped off to a labour camp the very next day[/I]
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;46522480]That was part of their whole self-sufficiency shit. The idea was to kill off/displace the populaces of lands invaded and to replace them/force their labour in order to create a self-sufficient nation.[/QUOTE]
but do you think all those places would still have been invaded if fascism didn't involve brutalizing other nations to drum up ultranationalist elements within germany? the ideology had everything to do with it
[QUOTE=proch;46521331]I'd love to have a political discussion with one of them to be honest. Sometimes someone has valid reasons for his views, far-right is no different.[/QUOTE]
They're reason usually whittles down to "I think anyone who isn't a non-Hebrew, non-Slavic white is evil/stupid/vile, and should be exterminated/enslaved/etc."
[QUOTE=Cone;46522539]but do you think all those places would still have been invaded if fascism didn't involve brutalizing other nations to drum up ultranationalist elements within germany? the ideology had everything to do with it[/QUOTE]
States created empires and extracted resources from them, that was what European powers did at the time. In modern society they wouldn't even be able to try to carve out a large empire like that.
[QUOTE=Moustacheman;46522552]They're reason usually whittles down to "I think anyone who isn't a non-Hebrew, non-Slavic white is evil/stupid/vile, and should be exterminated/enslaved/etc."[/QUOTE]
If one really wants to know what the majority of them believe, they can just read the threads posted on stormfront and whatever other shit websites they frequent
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;46522564]States created empires and extracted resources from them, that was what European powers did at the time. In modern society they wouldn't even be able to try to carve out a large empire like that.
If one really wants to know what the majority of them believe, they can just read the threads posted on stormfront and whatever other shit websites they frequent[/QUOTE]
Imagine non-ironically defending Fascism.
Imagine being this guy.
[QUOTE=Cone;46522268]don't you think it's maybe a touch deceptive to refuse any sort of public election, violently invade other countries for economic stimulus and nationalist distractions, suppress unhelpful news, install autocrats, or purposefully deprive citizens of any non-nationalist sense of identity on every level[/QUOTE]
Hey maybe when you're accusing people of deception you shouldn't evade questions.
[QUOTE=lazyguy;46522638]Hey maybe when you're accusing people of deception you shouldn't evade questions.[/QUOTE]
is this your only defense for fascism
a shitty tonal remark?
lol
[QUOTE=Ownederd;46522648]is this your only defense for fascism
a shitty tonal remark?
lol[/QUOTE]
I'm not defending Fascism, I'm calling Tone a sophist cunt.
[quote]For each meter the neo-Nazis marched last Saturday throughout the village, local companies donated 10 euro for a project called “Exit”, a NGO that supports neo-Nazis who are ready to leave the milieu.[/quote]
I'm not really seeing the prank part here.
[QUOTE=lazyguy;46522663]I'm not defending Fascism, I'm calling Tone a [B]sophist cunt[/B].[/QUOTE]
what?
[QUOTE=Qwerty Bastard;46522665]I'm not really seeing the prank part here.[/QUOTE]
The more they walk, they more they hurt their cause.
[QUOTE=Ownederd;46522671]what?[/QUOTE]
I've heard sophist refer to mastery before, could be saying that he's a master cunt. Though it's such an old word with many meanings afaik
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