Middle school student in Florida faces felony hacking charges for displaying an image
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[QUOTE=Perfumly;47508918]I remember once my school's website (which students had to use daily) had a button kind of hidden off to the side that they accidentally put there that allowed you to edit the page however you wanted.
I put pictures of david hasslehoff all over it[/QUOTE]
Tell me IA's Wayback Machine somehow got a snapshot of you unleashing your mini-Hoffpunching.
[QUOTE=J!NX;47508773]i find it extremely funny how much they jest that they are preparing you for real life
not once did anyone teach me how to file my taxes, fill in a job application or even so much as file a police report
but apparently those thing's aren't important I guess[/QUOTE]
I don't know how finances work or how to buy a home or car, but thank god I know how to solve logarithms! Thanks school!
[QUOTE=Rocko's;47508741]Felony charges for simply using a computers login, and changing the background of the computer... That is so petty. Should have been at maximum 1 day detention if anything, nothing more. Felony charges for this is overkill.[/QUOTE]
well i mean our entire school system is built out of pettiness, overreaction and complete incompetence so it's really surprising at all
Then again, the American school system was designed in the early stages of the Cold War to produce more engineers, or so my history class says.
[QUOTE=cpt.armadillo;47509046]Then again, the American school system was designed in the early stages of the Cold War to produce more engineers, or so my history class says.[/QUOTE]
whoever thought of doing that is really dumb because teaching kids to regurgitate information isn't going to create more engineers. i thought engineers were supposed to be creative.
[QUOTE=Tmaxx;47508658]honestly i'm surprised kids even get through school without severe mental problems. I know when I graduated I still had problems with stress. I stressed over everything because school taught me that if I fucked something up my life was over.
Still have that problem.[/QUOTE]
one day in highschool a teacher told me to go to the principal's office out of the blue
it still scared me to shit because i did absolutely nothing wrong at all since i go to my classes on time and dont have any friends to talk or mess around or do bad things with, and i was super stressed over what i couldve done since my memory isn't that great either and i thought i could've forgotten about it
when i got there the principal said "oh you're not in trouble, we just wanted to give you this little note/certificate for being so good!" and that didn't really make me feel any better and just compounded the feeling of being too afraid to do anything interesting to find or make friends, and the feeling that ive somehow wasted my life but not taking chances or doing things that scare me badly
also thanks for this shitty little reward for being so meek
it shouldn't be hacking when most schools leave the admin password on their winxp machines as password..........
i mean not admitting to hacking but i happen to know at least half my highschool's computer lab was set-up like that
[editline]12th April 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=cpt.armadillo;47509046]Then again, the American school system was designed in the early stages of the Cold War to produce more engineers, or so my history class says.[/QUOTE]
doesn't seem to be doing that now, none of the crap i learned in highschool has helped me learning to be an engineer, like the required math level is a joke, the required science courses are piss poor, and there's no attempt to even connect the subjects to the professions.
that saying, engineer technicians (or 2 year engineers) were predominantly the goal of the american school system since they require specific training but minimal actual math and science skills and would do most of the grunt work of engineering and manufacturing while actual engineers worked out the theory and larger scope
[editline]12th April 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=Saxon;47508803]No hes not, he can get his record sealed since its a juvenile offense, and no one will ever know about it that's trying to hire him. Hes probably going to get community service or something if he has a half decent lawyer.[/QUOTE]
he shouldn't be charged at all.
[QUOTE=Tmaxx;47508658]honestly i'm surprised kids even get through school without severe mental problems. I know when I graduated I still had problems with stress. I stressed over everything because school taught me that if I fucked something up my life was over.
Still have that problem.[/QUOTE]
I kinda got the opposite effect out of mine. I was able to get through all of primary school with a high GPA and SAT score while putting in minimal effort. I became rather apathetic about it rather than stressed. I'm back in college now and I still feel like a majority of my classes/class time are a huge waste. The short time I had in the Navy was really the only time I felt like anything I did had a significant purpose.
I feel there's nothing rewarding about learning if it's not related to something you want to learn or do, even if that seems closed minded.
[QUOTE=draugur;47508268]Password was probably admin or teacher. That's how the password work with my local school district anyway. They also just had uncovered routers laying around and our favourite lunch game was to turn off random routers on the hallway ceilings and see what classes would flip shit because "THE INTERNET IS BROKEN."
We also did really malicious shit like writing applications to open about a thousand copies of pinball, a large note explaining exactly what the kid in question did to make this happen, and play loud air raid sirens and redirected shortcuts for minecraft to it because kids kept installing minecraft on the computer lab PC's to play during class. This would literally freeze some of the slow dell computers with a giant textbox basically saying "THIS LITTLE FAGGOT WAS TRYING TO PLAY MINECRAFT" (not exact words) for everyone alive to see. A LOT of kids got in trouble for trying to play games in class and (we felt really bad for this) a few even got suspended for "intentionally installing viruses" on the school computers. The school released a giant school wide email (teachers AND students got this) through the district email thing about the "minecraft virus" as well. It was fucking great.
See the real genius part was when we wrote into windows start-up to redownload this/reinstall it if it were deleted. The school literally threw away entire computers because of us. I think when that started we toned it down because we realized how stupid they really are.[/QUOTE]
That's just hilarious. Well did the school at least get less shit computers after throwing the "infected" ones out?
I've had to hack into every computer in my classroom because the tech support people didn't install the driver software for most of the teachers stuff. For some ungodly reason the district bought a bunch of iMacs which of course are horribly unsecure. You literally just hold down Apple + S during bootup and, delete a file, and then you get full administrator access to the computer.
Breaking news: Young teen does stupid but vaguely amusing shit, gets life ruined by angry school.
I remember accessing my primary's schools network, it was ran by one of the most technologically-inept teachers in the school. You could get read/write access to everything by just typing masterserver// into the Explorer address bar.
In my high school, there was a txt file on the global file share named "h4xx0r.txt" (or something like that).
It was a relic left by the system administrators after someone got into the system and added it.
Since that was the only thing they did, as proof they could, they didn't get in trouble though.
When I was in sophomore year (7 years ago), my friend and I found the admin account password. We did it by grabbing the SAM file and running a hash cracking program overnight. The password was phewey2u
One day in class, my account wasn't working so I logged into the admin account, and within 5 minutes we had the campus security and someone from the principals office in the room asking who did it. I had already logged out and I guess they are alerted every time that account is used, but not by which workstation? So they never found out it was me. One other time I was pulled into the vice principals office for running a harmless batch script though.
In my school, way back when (97-2002) it was piss easy to be able to get into the root for ALL the student folders, simply by going up a few times and be able to access any other students supposedly protected folder. You didn't even have to have their password, you could just access it. It was all well and good, like being able to pull minor pranks on your friends until a couple of arseholes found out how to do it and took it too far and started deleting peoples stuff.
[QUOTE=ZombieDawgs;47510278]username: NSF001
password: smashthestate[/QUOTE]
the passcode to the security room is 0451
[QUOTE=garychencool;47509381]That's just hilarious. Well did the school at least get less shit computers after throwing the "infected" ones out?[/QUOTE]
Nope. They bought a bunch of old Imacs from like 2004. And then somehow managed to find the money to buy macbooks to give to all the incoming freshmen that year. Of course the kids had to give em back at the end of the year, but still.
[QUOTE=draugur;47511526]Nope. They bought a bunch of old Imacs from like 2004. And then somehow managed to find the money to buy macbooks to give to all the incoming freshmen that year. Of course the kids had to give em back at the end of the year, but still.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, schools always complain about lack of money but then spend it on shit.
I remember in my school, if you wanted to be admin, all you had to do was type in the username, "admin", and that was it. There was no password.
Oh, I could go on for hours about our school's security.
In the last two years I was called in to the principals office three times, the first for running Chrome off a flash drive before the administrators installed Firefox on the machines. This year I got called in the principal's office for using my FTP server to store my files after they switched over to a new IT supplier, and overhauled their policies. And the last time was a [I]bit[/I] more severe, as I installed Chrome with some other classmates on a few of the machines in our class. Got sent to the principal's office once again, and got an incident report too.
Face suspension and a computer prohibition on second strike. I'll be honest here, I was ready to laugh in the principal's face, and another classmate scanned his copy and framed it so we can have a laugh if we'd be under the weather or something.
I mean, come on we were just showing how bad that security down there is, as we didn't even need an administrator password to install a browser permanently.
For anyone who didn't see, the article says this
[quote]
But Green, interviewed at home, said students would often log into the administrative account to screen-share with their friends. They'd use the school computers' cameras to see each other, he said.
Green had previously received a three-day suspension for accessing the system inappropriately. Other students also got in trouble at the time, he said. It was a well-known trick, Green said, because the password was easy to remember: a teacher's last name. He said he discovered it by watching the teacher type it in.[/quote]
The password was the last name of a teacher (going to guess tech coordinator) and everyone knows it. He got shafted because he accidentally logged onto one of the computers with the FCAT
[quote]
Green said that on the morning in question, he accessed the computer that stored the FCAT files and, realizing that computer didn't have a camera, found another.[/quote]
[QUOTE=Rocko's;47508741]Felony charges for simply using a computers login, and changing the background of the computer... That is so petty. Should have been at maximum 1 day detention if anything, nothing more. Felony charges for this is overkill.[/QUOTE]
It'll most likely be dropped or lowered to a misdemeanor. That is, if it is his first offense. I got busted with a knife in my pocket which is also a felony. But the judge saw I was a pretty good kid and never got in trouble and he lowered it and gave me 1 year probation.. Got off in 6 months for good behavior. But I was also suspended from school for an entire month and that put me way back behind everyone and its what forced me to repeat the grade.
I'm sure he'll be fine.
[QUOTE=NoobieWafer223;47511703]It'll most likely be dropped or lowered to a misdemeanor. That is, if it is his first offense. I got busted with a knife in my pocket which is also a felony. But the judge saw I was a pretty good kid and never got in trouble and he lowered it and gave me 1 year probation.. Got off in 6 months for good behavior. But I was also suspended from school for an entire month and that put me way back behind everyone and its what forced me to repeat the grade.
I'm sure he'll be fine.[/QUOTE]
Reminds me of the time I brought a pocket knife for show-and-tell in elementary school. I got off without any punishment at all, probably because I had gotten the knife from my uncle who had just died of cancer.
[QUOTE=NoobieWafer223;47511703]It'll most likely be dropped or lowered to a misdemeanor. That is, if it is his first offense. I got busted with a knife in my pocket which is also a felony. But the judge saw I was a pretty good kid and never got in trouble and he lowered it and gave me 1 year probation.. Got off in 6 months for good behavior. But I was also suspended from school for an entire month and that put me way back behind everyone and its what forced me to repeat the grade.
I'm sure he'll be fine.[/QUOTE]
A 14 year old kid shouldn't be on a year of probation and set back and entire year of studies because he was playing a stupid prank. That is fucking retarded at best.
This is the digital version of a kid wanting to draw a picture of a penis on the chalkboard of a teacher's room but can't find the chalk so he looks in the teacher's drawer that has a lock on it, except it was unlocked and had the key hanging from the lock anyway and when he found no chalk he closed the drawer and moved on to find chalk. Except it just so happened that this drawer had SUPER IMPORTANT TEST ANSWERS in it so they suspended him and charged him with felony breaking and entering and burglary.
My school used the "security by downtime" method. If nobody could access the network nobody could gain unauthorized access to someone else's account
My highschool had a single Linux machine that was used by the art/drama/music classes. The root password for it was root. People would go in and try and mess with the system all the time, only it's Linux, so no one had any idea what they were doing.
This charge is also garbage because it's not hacking, it's guessing a password that was obviously not secure.
Florida schools are notoriously retarded. My county (Hillsborough) has the shittiest security ever. All of the passwords are easily guessed (admin password for my school is the name of the school backwards). Even district level passwords are easy. I was bored one day and snooped around the network, found out that the district has a text file with every name, address, phone number, and social security number of every school district employee. In plain text. Sitting on a server. With a very insecure password. Yeah.
This was a while back and from what I have heard they either removed or moved that file.
[QUOTE=Jamsponge;47509551]Breaking news: Young teen does stupid but vaguely amusing shit, gets life ruined by angry school.[/QUOTE]
You know this is like the most literal case of public schools ruining someone's life.
The only time in school I really felt this happen to me was one year I did a massive biography paper and handed it in a good month and a half before the end of the year and got it back a week before the end of the year and was told I'm going to fail because my citations were formated wrong and its plagerism now instead of a bad paper. I had a teacher arbitrarily using bits out of the student handbook to justify her position and it made my life living hell for 2 weeks as I had to take her all the way up to the principle of the school and have a sit down with two teachers and my parents and the principle one day before the end of the year. She was a vindictive bitch and decided to try to ruin me by withholding my paper for a month after she graded it and there was almost nothing I could do to fix my simple mistake. After that year I think I really stopped giving a fuck about highschool, I stopped doing honors and advanced classes because of that. Highschool teachers can be complete megalomaniacs , but I had plenty of teachers who would have handed that back and told me my citations were wrong and just docked me the points for them.
[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;47511542]I remember in my school, if you wanted to be admin, all you had to do was type in the username, "admin", and that was it. There was no password.[/QUOTE]
I just remembered that back in my high school I was very easily able to simply open up the file explorer in XP, press enter when it asked for credentials (no pass or username), and was able to browse the entire file tree for the whole school.
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