• Iran declares it can sink US carrier with 'ease' in Persian gulf.
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[QUOTE=ewitwins;34301010]They get to tease and prod the most powerful navy in the world, and toy with their submarines by playing cat and mouse?! If I were a crewmember I would be giggling like a schoolboy at how the Americans couldn't find us :v:[/QUOTE] You would be surprised.
[QUOTE=The golden;34276485]And it won't end well for the US either. You guys are so fucking broke that you cannot even afford proper healthcare and education for your own citizens. You're at a 40 million people living in poverty. Seriously. These posts by Americans acting all tough just makes me laugh.[/QUOTE] These posts by Canadians acting like they're the master race and their country is fucking Nervana makes me laugh. [editline]20th January 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Marbalo;34276545]inb4 people overestimate the american military. just because you spend so fucking much on it doesn't mean you'd be completely safe from any sort of attack ever. Iran is not as primitive as you think and nevertheless a full scale war would result in huge casualties on both sides.[/QUOTE] Two words there, Desert Storm. You're right that Iran has a much better military then we believe and we would actually, you know, sustain a great number of casualties, but you still shouldn't underestimate us either. I guarantee we'd have Iran done and over with in a month with our strength (hell, probably less.) Our only problem is our complete inability to take casualties. That's what forced us out in 'Nam. Every one soldier killed is such a big deal here in the states that several thousand in the span of a week would be fucking devastating, and Iran clearly knows it.
[QUOTE=Tunak Mk. II;34301156]iran also claims to have flying saucers powered by allah[/QUOTE] Iran is funny when it comes to claims: "On 15th of December, nuclear engineer and scientist Mehran Tavakoli Keshe, claims the drone was brought down using "Advanced Space Technology," which he is the designer of. Keshe claims the RQ-170 was captured using a tractor beam deployed by a classified Iranian drone. 

 "The craft has been air-picked-up and been put down on its belly through the use of field forces," Keshe wrote on the Keshe Foundation forum. "The Iran spaceship program has the capability of jamming and blocking any incoming radar... As we have explained month ago on this forum, and now we see the practical use of the technology." Keshe went on to claim that the Iranian drone uses "a fusion reaction that manipulates dark matter, regular matter, and antimatter."

 The engineer said he hoped the futuristic tech would help usher in a new era of international peace and intergalactic exploration.

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[QUOTE=BananaFoam;34302854]These posts by Canadians acting like they're the master race and their country is fucking Nervana makes me laugh. [editline]20th January 2012[/editline] Two words there, Desert Storm. You're right that Iran has a much better military then we believe and we would actually, you know, sustain a great number of casualties, but you still shouldn't underestimate us either. I guarantee we'd have Iran done and over with in a month with our strength (hell, probably less.) Our only problem is our complete inability to take casualties. That's what forced us out in 'Nam. Every one soldier killed is such a big deal here in the states that several thousand in the span of a week would be fucking devastating, and Iran clearly knows it.[/QUOTE] Not just Desert Storm, but the 2003 invasion of Iraq too. The Coalition took very few casualties in comparison to the losses the Iraqi Army suffered. Another thing to note: the Iranian Army comprises of 465,000 men, 235,000 of which are conscripts. A lot of these soldiers have never been in actual combat, while many (but not all) of our forces have seen actual combat in some form, whether it be in the Middle East, Somalia, or elsewhere. On top of that, it's unlikely we would stage a ground invasion. Here's an interesting article. A bit dated (August 2011), but does give some insight. [url=http://www.the-american-interest.com/article-bd.cfm?piece=982]here.[/url]
[QUOTE=ice445;34303069]Iran is funny when it comes to claims: "On 15th of December, nuclear engineer and scientist Mehran Tavakoli Keshe, claims the drone was brought down using "Advanced Space Technology," which he is the designer of. Keshe claims the RQ-170 was captured using a tractor beam deployed by a classified Iranian drone. 

 "The craft has been air-picked-up and been put down on its belly through the use of field forces," Keshe wrote on the Keshe Foundation forum. "The Iran spaceship program has the capability of jamming and blocking any incoming radar... As we have explained month ago on this forum, and now we see the practical use of the technology." Keshe went on to claim that the Iranian drone uses "a fusion reaction that manipulates dark matter, regular matter, and antimatter."

 The engineer said he hoped the futuristic tech would help usher in a new era of international peace and intergalactic exploration.

"[/QUOTE] You are a fucking idiot if you think that is for real it's the equivalent of a forum poster here saying that they are a nuclear engineer and believe in aliens and all that shit
[QUOTE=Contag;34303459]You are a fucking idiot if you think that is for real it's the equivalent of a forum poster here saying that they are a nuclear engineer and believe in aliens and all that shit[/QUOTE] Calm down there. Here's his actual site, enjoy. [url]http://www.keshespace.com/[/url]
[QUOTE=Governor Goblin;34301043]You're forgetting that they themselves have air and sea military units. They aren't some ground army with a one shot anti-American carrier gun they have lying around. The US has spent the last 65 years invading third world countries and failing a lot of them, you and the rest of the world have NO idea how well the US will do in a large scale conflict with a large highly industrialised country. So lets keep the dick waving to a minimum and try and avoid a useless war.[/QUOTE] This is true, the only "real" modern war I can think of is the Falklands War. There's likely more, but I can't seem to conjure them. When I say real modern war, I mean combat between two modernized military forces, utilizing an air force, navy and ground based army.
[QUOTE=ewitwins;34287883]Hey, never said it was ethical or right :v: [editline]19th January 2012[/editline] On a sidenote if shit goes down I vote we rename Iran "East Jersey"[/QUOTE] jersey shore: now with submarine intrigue "snooki if you don't stay awake during your watch I'm going to shove that stuffed crocodile in that torpedo tube"
[QUOTE=doonbugie2;34300758]How is Israel going to attack Iran, they don't have any troop moving ability.[/QUOTE] Yes, they totally don't have any forces with a capability to strike outside of Israel [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paratroopers_Brigade[/url] They also have a brigade that's technically supposed to be naval infantry but I don't think they have any real way to transport them and their armor to Iran.
[QUOTE=Taepodong-2;34309500]Yes, they totally don't have any forces with a capability to strike outside of Israel [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paratroopers_Brigade[/url] They also have a brigade that's technically supposed to be naval infantry but I don't think they have any real way to transport them and their armor to Iran.[/QUOTE] They used to, but if wikipedia is to be believed, it looks like pretty much all of their landing craft have been retired. Not that it matters much, the most powerful warships they have are of the corvette class. Those won't smash through the Iranian naval defenses any time soon.
[QUOTE=Arachnidus;34305615]This is true, the only "real" modern war I can think of is the Falklands War. There's likely more, but I can't seem to conjure them. When I say real modern war, I mean combat between two modernized military forces, utilizing an air force, navy and ground based army.[/QUOTE] Mostly because a real major war between two established powers just isn't worth it anymore
learned that one during the cold war
[QUOTE=Marbalo;34276545]inb4 people overestimate the american military. just because you spend so fucking much on it doesn't mean you'd be completely safe from any sort of attack ever. Iran is not as primitive as you think and nevertheless a full scale war would result in huge casualties on both sides.[/QUOTE] Irans latest military project created a few "stealth" boat planes. They were made of wood, and had a single machine gun strapped to them. America would actually flatten Iran from the air that would be the end of it really. Sweet Jesus I am late.
As much push as there is for it coming from Republicans and some Democrats, a war with Iran isn't very likely. Far too many conflicting interests involved, good examples being Russia and China's strong trade relations with Iran. Then there is risk of course the port of Hormuz closing which is a risk that shouldn't be taken.
[QUOTE=Pepin;34319544]As much push as there is for it coming from Republicans and some Democrats, a war with Iran isn't very likely. Far too many conflicting interests involved, good examples being Russia and China's strong trade relations with Iran. Then there is risk of course the port of Hormuz closing which is a risk that shouldn't be taken.[/QUOTE] Oh yeah China sure is going to choose Iran over the U.S. because of "trade relations". Yep, they value Iranian trade more than American.
[QUOTE=Arachnidus;34305615]This is true, the only "real" modern war I can think of is the Falklands War. There's likely more, but I can't seem to conjure them. When I say real modern war, I mean combat between two modernized military forces, utilizing an air force, navy and ground based army.[/QUOTE] Falklands even then is a bit different from a 'modern war' scenario.
why isnt anybody mentioning the six day war or israel's crazy aptitude for espionage??? have you all forgotten that israel struck a ton of vital points in like five or six different nations in a short span of a few days, receiving like half of the casualties forcing them to capitulate? sure, things have changed since '67, but the IDF is still a strong force and what they lack in numbers they can make up for with superior strategy. if they weren't capable of fighting those other nations, then they would already have been conquered by them (dont bother arguing the "thats not how it works nowadays" point, theyve been taking land from the palestinians so obviously it is)
[QUOTE=Kung Fu Jew;34321208]why isnt anybody mentioning the six day war or israel's crazy aptitude for espionage??? have you all forgotten that israel struck a ton of vital points in like five or six different nations in a short span of a few days, receiving like half of the casualties forcing them to capitulate? sure, things have changed since '67, but the IDF is still a strong force and what they lack in numbers they can make up for with superior strategy. if they weren't capable of fighting those other nations, then they would already have been conquered by them (dont bother arguing the "thats not how it works nowadays" point, theyve been taking land from the palestinians so obviously it is)[/QUOTE] Why are you talking about Israel when this is about Iran threatening America?
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;34321224]Why are you talking about Israel when this is about Iran threatening America?[/QUOTE] If the U.S. ever gets into war with Iran, it'll be because Israel dragged them into it after bombing Iran.
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