Actually keeping him in isolation 24/7 for 30 years/rest of his life is MUCH worse then an execution.
Does anyone who's pro-death penalty have any point besides, "he's very bad man, he kill people, kill him in face?"
[QUOTE=smurfy;18300150]I guess we can add abolition of capital punishment to the list of stuff America just doesn't fucking get. I'll just put it here right under social democracy, the metric system, gay marriage...[/QUOTE]
Britain is imperial too...
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Also, I love the Imperial System, I knew it's because I grew up with it and all, but, it's just, so awesome.
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[QUOTE=Smells Like;18319435]Actually keeping him in isolation 24/7 for 30 years/rest of his life is MUCH worse then an execution.[/QUOTE]
Prisons in the states have Yards, Classes, Lunch, Sports, etc. You still see other people, talk, etc. Prison is meant to hold prisoners yes, but, also, try to reform them.
If someone was sentenced to 24/7 Isolation for 30 Years, that's just horrible and wouldn't be allowed.
[QUOTE=Linelor;18318787]I've always found it funny that people always worry so much about how criminals are treated and how comfortable they are when they're put to death.
Meanwhile, a good soldier who fights for his country and is basically just doing his job can die in so many painful horrific ways. Basically, if you kill when it's right, as in fighting opposing forces who are serving just as you: you get horrible treatment. Kill when you're a criminal and you just raped and murdered a 12 year old girl then you deserve good treatment and a painless and carefree death.
Something wrong there to me.[/QUOTE]
I respect the people who serve, but that doesn't mean I cannot have some pity for people on death row.
I think there was a documentry on this.
If you murder, you deserve to die. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a weak-minded pussy.
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Is he dead yet?
I think so.
[QUOTE=Kyle902;18310322]Seriously. They guy was not only just eating up space in a prison, but he was also a threat guards and other prisoners. Why keep a dangerous criminal alive when you can simply [b]Humanely[/b] execute him.[/QUOTE]
Well, the guards were armed and because he was on death row it was likely very solitary.
Also if you read the thread, it isn't necessarily humane.
And if a prisoner is a danger to people around him the prison system isn't exactly doing a good job, is it?
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[QUOTE=lmaoboat;18316749]Well if you've got a good reason to snipe a bunch of random people, I'd like to hear it.[/QUOTE]
That's why we detain people for committing crimes.
[QUOTE=DeathFang;18320321]If you murder, you deserve to die. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a weak-minded pussy.
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That's such a bullshit ban.
[QUOTE=Sh33p;18300002]Executions are mean. I mean really, like scary mean.[/QUOTE]
Ya, it's perfectly dandy being shot from the back of a car with a high powered rifle when you're just trying to fill yours with gas.
[QUOTE=ThatDamnGrei;18321300]That's such a bullshit ban.[/QUOTE]
Agreed.
They only want to kill him because they are Virgins.
[QUOTE=Linelor;18318787]I've always found it funny that people always worry so much about how criminals are treated and how comfortable they are when they're put to death.
Meanwhile, a good soldier who fights for his country and is basically just doing his job can die in so many painful horrific ways. Basically, if you kill when it's right, as in fighting opposing forces who are serving just as you: you get horrible treatment. Kill when you're a criminal and you just raped and murdered a 12 year old girl then you deserve good treatment and a painless and carefree death.
Something wrong there to me.[/QUOTE]
Horrible treatment? If you're a criminal and you are released from prison after causing a particularly public crime or brutal crime, you are regarded as absolute scum for the rest of your life, and society will scorn you till you die. The majority here in the UK show absolute respect and support for the troops serving/who served in Afghanistan/Iraq.
A great example of this is where on a returning parade, two people were arrested for shouting abuse at the soldiers, calling them murderers. Not because the police were violating their freedom of speech, but rather to protect them from the infuriated crowd that were about to descend on them.
Causing a crime does not remove your right to life.
stop being pussys exucution is great!
It's 8:43.
When the clock hits 9:00, everyone stand up for a moment of silence.
[QUOTE=Malumbre;18322502]Ya, it's perfectly dandy being shot from the back of a car with a high powered rifle when you're just trying to fill yours with gas.
Agreed.[/QUOTE]
agreed, we should murder murderers, only the best way for a 21st Century civil minded people to act.
obviously, the solution is stoop down to his level and kill the son of a bitch! Vengeance and revenge for all!
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I don't think he should have been killed because it would suck being in hell.
Well it's better than a life sentence.
[QUOTE=Pigeon87;18326201]It's 8:43.
When the clock hits 9:00, everyone stand up for a moment of silence.[/QUOTE]
I screamed as loud as possible, and canceled out your moment of silence. [I]What now??[/I]
Killing a man is killing a man, there is no if,ands, or buts about it. If a man shoots another man in the head because he was angry is unjustified, but injecting the person who shot the man is OK. Where is the logic in that, either way the guy who injected the man should be put to death also, because he killed someone. The death penalty is just not right, the little "An eye for an eye" rule ended ages ago.
[QUOTE=jordguitar;18300101]No, sensibility that we are still technically doing eye for a eye type of punishment. Except its do horrible thing get sent to death row and executed. It is pointless and it would be better to keep them alive until they die. Or at least the ones who know what they have done and feel horrible about it. But the whole execution thing never got through to me in the way everyone else is going at it.[/QUOTE]
Who is going to pay for his food and shelter? How do you expect people to think twice if the consequence is a lifetime vacancy? How do you know he regrets what he has done, and how is that relevant to preventing further crime, even from people who "may" regret it [i]after[/i] the fact? Welcome to reality, where morals can be useless and stupid.
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[QUOTE=rooky;18300121]Execution? It's a hypocritical, harsh way of dealing with problems.[/QUOTE]
So I assume defending yourself from an attacker with violence is hypocritical too?
Go back to fucking fairy-land.
[QUOTE=TheAnarchist;18329600]
So I assume defending yourself from an attacker with violence is hypocritical too?
Go back to fucking fairy-land.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man[/url]
[QUOTE=Athena;18329660][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man[/url][/QUOTE]
Hahaha, oh wow, and you don't even know what a fucking straw man is. That was an analogy.
Now try looking this up: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot_(person[/url])
Edit: Correction, that was a question.
[QUOTE=TheAnarchist;18329720]Hahaha, oh wow, and you don't even know what a fucking straw man is. That was an analogy.
Now try looking this up: [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot_(person[/url])
Edit: Correction, that was a question.[/QUOTE]
If you're going to hurl invective like you're some clever god of wit, at least parse the URL correctly so you don't wind up looking like the idiot.
[QUOTE=Athena;18329769]If you're going to hurl invective like you're some clever god of wit, at least parse the URL correctly so you don't wind up looking like the idiot.[/QUOTE]
That's all you could come up with? A URL that doesn't parse correctly makes me an idiot so you don't have to counter my argument at all? Great job, you're a waste of my time.
I realize that it's much worse to keep the person alive and have them suffer that way, but hundreds of thousands of taxpayers dollars are spent on keeping prisoners alive, money taken from you, me, the victims families, and everyone else.
I suggest bringing hanging back. That way, they can still suffer, but without the hefty costs.
[QUOTE=lulzbocks;18330028]I realize that it's much worse to keep the person alive and have them suffer that way, but hundreds of thousands of taxpayers dollars are spent on keeping prisoners alive, money taken from you, me, the victims families, and everyone else.
I suggest bringing hanging back. That way, they can still suffer, but without the hefty costs.[/QUOTE]
This has already been discussed, it costs more money to send someone to their death than to keep them alive.
[QUOTE=TheAnarchist;18329600]Who is going to pay for his food and shelter? How do you expect people to think twice if the consequence is a lifetime vacancy? How do you know he regrets what he has done, and how is that relevant to preventing further crime, even from people who "may" regret it [i]after[/i] the fact? Welcome to reality, where morals can be useless and stupid.
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So I assume defending yourself from an attacker with violence is hypocritical too?
Go back to fucking fairy-land.[/QUOTE]
this guy makes sense
we should make an extermination camp where we send every POW, criminals, and etc. to be slaughtered.
[url]http://news.aol.com/article/dna-frees-convicted-murderer-kenneth/632284[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Calvin_Tillman[/url]
sorry, i copypasted these two innocent men who were convicted for a crime that didn't commit and might've possibly gotten a death sentence.
ignore the links, all hail TheAnarchist!
[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;18330393]This has already been discussed, it costs more money to send someone to their death than to keep them alive.[/QUOTE]
A rope and gallows does not cost significant upkeep, if you read my post.
Your post makes no sense, the reason it costs more isn't because of the machine you are using, it costs more because of legal proceedings such as appeals.
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