• Virginia set to execute 'DC sniper' tonight
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[QUOTE=johanz;18337464]Someone, quick, become superhero of justice.[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l231/jakesface/I-am-the-law.jpg[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;18334442]To believe that lethal injection is right, you have to agree that killing is right.[/QUOTE] Amen braddah, the only time I think killing is justifiable is self-defense.
[QUOTE=SomeGuest;18337279]Sure, because I haven't killed anyone thus, I don't have to worry about being executed. :downs:[/QUOTE] ...what? I want you to explain to me what that means relevant to what I said and btw it wasn't I that rated you dumb so somebody else doesn't understand what the fuck you said either
[QUOTE=KaIibos;18338285]...what? I want you to explain to me what that means relevant to what I said and btw it wasn't I that rated you dumb so somebody else doesn't understand what the fuck you said either[/QUOTE] You asked [QUOTE=KaIibos]Do you really want to give your government jurisdiction over (literally) whether you live or die?[/quote] And I said yes, because I haven't done anything worth killing me over. [editline]04:28PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Billiam;18337994]Amen braddah, the only time I think killing is justifiable is self-defense.[/QUOTE] Then you believe killing is right. There's no difference between killing someone over self-defense and execution. Either way, everybody wins!
[QUOTE=SomeGuest;18338628] Then you believe killing is right. There's no difference between killing someone over self-defense and execution. Either way, everybody wins![/QUOTE] A rational exception isn't allowed? This is oppose to revenge.
[QUOTE=Billiam;18338662]A rational exception isn't allowed? This is oppose to revenge.[/QUOTE] Death is death, you cant sweeten it any other way. Aslong as the killing is for the good of humanity then I have no problem with it. If a couple of selfish murders get put to death, great. If they were actually innocent then that sucks, but no country is perfect. Either you rot in jail for 75 years or you get executed in 5.
The difference being one is to quench blood-lust the other to dissolve a threat to your life.
[QUOTE=SomeGuest;18338772]Death is death, you cant sweeten it any other way. Aslong as the killing is for the good of humanity then I have no problem with it. If a couple of selfish murders get put to death, great. If they were actually innocent then that sucks, but no country is perfect. [b]Either you rot in jail for 75 years or you get executed in 5.[/b][/QUOTE] Although the former is cheaper than the latter.
[QUOTE=SomeGuest;18338772]Death is death, you cant sweeten it any other way. Aslong as the killing is for the good of humanity then I have no problem with it.[/QUOTE] But it's not for the good of humanity, it doesn't make humanity any better at all. [QUOTE=SomeGuest;18338772]If a couple of selfish murders get put to death, great. If they were actually innocent then that sucks, but no country is perfect. [/QUOTE] This is purely enough reason not to allow it. This. This. This.
[QUOTE=Billiam;18338835]But it's not for the good of humanity, it doesn't make humanity any better at all. This is purely enough reason not to allow it. This. This. This.[/QUOTE] Killer = killed = less people being killed This.
[QUOTE=SomeGuest;18339126]Killer = killed = less people being killed This.[/QUOTE] Prison = Killer + Armed Guards + Solitary Cell
[QUOTE=SomeGuest;18338628]You asked And I said yes, because I haven't done anything worth killing me over. [/QUOTE] So are you really comfortable with the idea that a group of people that you don't know are in control of your life and death? I mean if you are I guess that's your opinion but it seems very naive [QUOTE=SomeGuest;18339126]Killer = killed = less people being killed This.[/QUOTE] And since you merely used 2 equal signs with nothing else to go on you're explicitly stating that a killer is equal to killed killed is equal to less people being killed a killer is equal to less people being killed Those things are not equal they don't even make sense within the same context, what you should have said (and of course I understand what you meant, but I wanted to nitpick your odd choice of sentence structure) was Killer + killed = less people being killed
[QUOTE=SomeGuest;18339126]Killer = killed = less people being killed This.[/QUOTE] yes let's boil shit down to that level. let's kill the homeless that litter the streets because then we have less shit on the street, and less people are unhappy. let's kill people that don't/can't pay taxes because then we'll have less people leeching off the state, and less people are unhappy. You DO NOT violate the rights of the individual for the sake of lowering a statistic. Killing people isn't acceptable as a solution in almost all cases. With self-defence, it is understandable, as it may be necessary to defend yourself with lethal force to uphold your own rights. And there isn't even any evidence to suggest that it works as a deterrent either.
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;18339950] And there isn't even any evidence to suggest that it works as a deterrent either.[/QUOTE] Of course not, if you murder you either have a mental problem, were in the moment, or murder in a fashion that you believe will not lead to your arrest.
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;18339950]yes let's boil shit down to that level. let's kill the homeless that litter the streets because then we have less shit on the street, and less people are unhappy. let's kill people that don't/can't pay taxes because then we'll have less people leeching off the state, and less people are unhappy. You DO NOT violate the rights of the individual for the sake of lowering a statistic. Killing people isn't acceptable as a solution in almost all cases. With self-defence, it is understandable, as it may be necessary to defend yourself with lethal force to uphold your own rights. And there isn't even any evidence to suggest that it works as a deterrent either.[/QUOTE] Nice try but no. Why are you trying to compare homeless with a murderer? Bad example right there. Fix plz kthnxbye [editline]06:18PM[/editline] [QUOTE=KaIibos;18339548]So are you really comfortable with the idea that a group of people that you don't know are in control of your life and death? I mean if you are I guess that's your opinion but it seems very naive And since you merely used 2 equal signs with nothing else to go on you're explicitly stating that a killer is equal to killed killed is equal to less people being killed a killer is equal to less people being killed Those things are not equal they don't even make sense within the same context, what you should have said (and of course I understand what you meant, but I wanted to nitpick your odd choice of sentence structure) was Killer + killed = less people being killed[/QUOTE] :lol: I like how you tried so hard by throwing out notations. Yes you understood what I meant yet you still go ahead and give me examples. Since your OCD is getting the better of you, let me rephrase it. A killer who is killed leads to less killing. Better? Yes I like the idea that someone is in control if I live or die because I have done nothing wrong to justify the means. If you can't understand that then oh well.
[QUOTE=SomeGuest;18340751] A killer who is killed leads to less killing. Better?[/QUOTE] No, because this shit is situational. If he's out on the loose, yeah. If he's under confinement by authorities, no.
[QUOTE=Billiam;18340965]No, because this shit is situational. If he's out on the loose, yeah. If he's under confinement by authorities, no.[/QUOTE] Blahblah he dies, blahblah he goes to jail forever. What's the difference? One being he dies, the other he dies older. Who cares. No one ruined his life, he ruined his.
[QUOTE=SomeGuest;18340999]Blahblah he dies, blahblah he goes to jail forever. What's the difference? One being he dies, the other, he dies older.[/QUOTE] Did you just compare dying naturally to having your life taken? Also, your only significant reason for killing the guy is revenge?
Fuck that. If he killed he should be killed.
[QUOTE=Predat0r;18341033]Fuck that. If he killed he should be killed.[/QUOTE] If you're raped, your genitals should be cut off. My bad, if you rape*
[QUOTE=Billiam;18341046]If you're raped, your genitals should be cut off. My bad, if you rape*[/QUOTE] Yes? Your point? Theres still countries that do that. They castrate them.
[QUOTE=SomeGuest;18341248]Yes? Your point? Theres still countries that do that. They castrate them.[/QUOTE] An eye for an eye is stupid.
[QUOTE=Billiam;18341046]If you're raped, your genitals should be cut off. My bad, if you rape*[/QUOTE] Sounds good to me.
[QUOTE=Billiam;18341304]An eye for an eye is stupid.[/QUOTE] I'm sorry, but the correct phrase is "[I]An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind[/I]".
[QUOTE=Boba_Fett;18341346]I'm sorry, but the correct phrase is "[I]An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind[/I]".[/QUOTE] Actually, it leaves the world with one eye, because they'd lack the depth perception to hit the other eye.
A person who murders another person sacrifices his or her rights as a human being by taking away another person's right to life. And after thinking about it, I think executions should be left up to the family of the victims to decide, if he or she should live or not in the end. either way he's dead lol
[QUOTE=lmaoboat;18341372]Actually, it leaves the world with one eye, because they'd lack the depth perception to hit the other eye.[/QUOTE] What if they got both eyes at the same time?
[QUOTE=Flitchaye;18341417]A person who murders another person sacrifices his or her rights as a human being by taking away another person's right to life. And after thinking about it, I think executions should be left up to the family of the victims to decide, if he or she should live or not in the end. either way he's dead lol[/QUOTE] so should the family of the 'justifiably murdered', have the right to murder the murderer? See what I did? Also, I can't believe people are bitching how the government have so much power to shutdown pirating, healthcare, and etc. but as soon the [b]government has the power to murder and take away a Life, one of the higher liberties of an US Citizen, then get away with it, people are supporting it[/b]. That's worse than censorship, taking away right to bear arms, and etc. Capital Punishment is scary.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;18343844]so should the family of the 'justifiably murdered', have the right to murder the murderer? See what I did? Also, I can't believe people are bitching how the government have so much power to shutdown pirating, healthcare, and etc. but as soon the [b]government has the power to murder and take away a Life, one of the higher liberties of an US Citizen, then get away with it, people are supporting it[/b]. That's worse than censorship, taking away right to bear arms, and etc. Capital Punishment is scary.[/QUOTE] Motherfuckin' agreed.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;18343844]so should the family of the 'justifiably murdered', have the right to murder the murderer? See what I did? Also, I can't believe people are bitching how the government have so much power to shutdown pirating, healthcare, and etc. but as soon the [b]government has the power to murder and take away a Life, one of the higher liberties of an US Citizen, then get away with it, people are supporting it[/b]. That's worse than censorship, taking away right to bear arms, and etc. Capital Punishment is scary.[/QUOTE] He shouldn't have killed innocent people. Enough said.
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