I'd much rather he get life and prison and know that he'll be doing the same exact thing every day for the next 50 years.
[QUOTE=Benf199105;18458347]In my opinion, in this case an execution was valid.
He willingly and knowingly took the lives of a dozen people in cold blood.
Even though it is "medieval" to kill someone for their crimes; i think in this case if a man had murdered your family member with a hunting rifle whilst they were at the store; would you still say it was barbaric to execute him?
I think everyone needs to take a firm reality check.
If your dad or sister or brother went to the store and was shot dead there on the street, how would you feel?
Tell me you wouldn't want to kill the guy responsible?
Yes, you may say, surely we are as bad as a murderer, for we say "do not kill" but hypocritically we kill the ones who kill. Yes a paradox, but surely the only fitting punishment is an eye for an eye.
How else do we punish those who murder an innocent person? Life in prison? What is the point, let them live in solitary confinement, to go insane, become lonely, effectively dead anyway. Save the inmate the pain, suffering and isolation, and execute him. Give the family of those murdered closure, and let them see justice is done.
What else do you suggest?[/QUOTE]
If someone killed my brother or sister, sure I'd be pissed and wailing, but I'll know that in prison, that bastard is having the worst time of his life. Being told when to piss, shit, eat, socialize, work, and etc. You know [b]NOTING[/b] about prison, people seem to think that prison is a happy place. I've been raised my whole life to be a good person by my parents and to be against murderers, drug dealers, and etc. But what am I different when I actively support them to be dead.
An eye for an eye leaves the whole world fucking blind, what part of this do you murderer supporters do not get?
My grandfather was murdered by the Japanese in WW2, should I have the right to kill those Japanese soldiers?
Millions of Jews were slaughtered by German soldiers, while the people looked on and supported it, that's association, should we kill them too?
The chinese is Nanking were raped, tortured, and murdered, by Japanese once again, let's murder them all.
Thank god none of you murder hungry people are in any political position, otherwise that state would be back into the Dark Ages.
I suggest we put them in prison, where they belong. Don't like it? Fuck off and ship yourself to Iran.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;18460951]If someone killed my brother or sister, sure I'd be pissed and wailing, but I'll know that in prison, that bastard is having the worst time of his life. Being told when to piss, shit, eat, socialize, work, and etc. You know [b]NOTING[/b] about prison, people seem to think that prison is a happy place. I've been raised my whole life to be a good person by my parents and to be against murderers, drug dealers, and etc. But what am I different when I actively support them to be dead.[/quote]
What the hell is so hard to understand? We know that [b]life in prison is torture[/b] but more importantly who the hell cares?! Why send him to life in prison living off of our money as he contributes nothing to society when we could just end his miserable life, save [b]him and us[/b] the suffering of jail.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;18460951]An eye for an eye leaves the whole world fucking blind, what part of this do you murderer supporters do not get?[/quote]
Read the fucking OP, he killed [b]10 people[/b] we are killing [b]one person[/b], do the math. It's more like an eye for 10 eyes, do you understand now? People rarely get put to death for killing one person.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;18460951]My grandfather was murdered by the Japanese in WW2, should I have the right to kill those Japanese soldiers?[/quote]
Your grandfather wasn't murdered. He died in a [i]fight[/i] where he knew he might die. The solider who killed your grandfather probably died too, because they where fighting in a [i]war[/i].
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;18460951]
Millions of Jews were slaughtered by German soldiers, while the people looked on and supported it, that's association, should we kill them too?[/quote]
Nope, because that would be ineffective. What we can do is kill the leaders of those people, which we did.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;18460951]The chinese is Nanking were raped, tortured, and murdered, by Japanese once again, let's murder them all.[/quote]
I'm sure each side had its casualties, again, its called [i]war[/i] for a reason.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;18460951]Thank god none of you murder hungry people are in any political position, otherwise that state would be back into the Dark Ages.[/quote]
You want to let [b]mass murderers[/b] live! I say [b]you[/b] are the murderer lover.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;18460951]I suggest we put them in prison, where they belong. Don't like it? Fuck off and ship yourself to Iran.[/QUOTE]
You're letting your innate fear of death consume your rationale. Why keep them alive if they are of no use to society, nature, or anything or anyone? What's so bad about death anyway? I hear it's pretty peaceful.
[QUOTE=AlexH-;18461297]You want to let [b]mass murderers[/b] live! I say [b]you[/b] are the murderer lover.[/QUOTE]
good job
[QUOTE=AlexH-;18461297]What the hell is so hard to understand? We know that [b]life in prison is torture[/b] but more importantly who the hell cares?! Why send him to life in prison living off of our money as he contributes nothing to society when we could just end his miserable life, save [b]him and us[/b] the suffering of jail.
Read the fucking OP, he killed [b]10 people[/b] we are killing [b]one person[/b], do the math. It's more like an eye for 10 eyes, do you understand now? People rarely get put to death for killing one person.
Your grandfather wasn't murdered. He died in a [i]fight[/i] where he knew he might die. The solider who killed your grandfather probably died too, because they where fighting in a [i]war[/i].
Nope, because that would be ineffective. What we can do is kill the leaders of those people, which we did.
I'm sure each side had its casualties, again, its called [i]war[/i] for a reason.
You want to let [b]mass murderers[/b] live! I say [b]you[/b] are the murderer lover.
You're letting your innate fear of death consume your rationale. Why keep them alive if they are of no use to society, nature, or anything or anyone? What's so bad about death anyway? I hear it's pretty peaceful.[/QUOTE]
And it's [b]MY[/b] tax money to send him to the chair and get lethal injection. It's [b]MY[/b] tax money that gives him that last meal. I'll pay my taxes for universal healthcare, aid to certain countries, my local police, and etc. [b] but I will not pay my taxes to kill a fucking human being [/b].
It's still an eye for a fucking eye. Jesus Christ. Should the family of the DC Sniper have the right to kill the guy who injects him full of poison? Fuck no.
Murder Definition: kill intentionally and with premeditation. I'm pretty sured the Japanese people intentionally killed my grandfather.
Why is it ineffective? I heard majority of the Germans in the Death Camps laughed and contributed to the killing. Fuck, they were [b]directly[/b] involved! Kill them all I say! Dark Ages, fuck yeah!
I don't give a shit if it's war, murder is murder. Why can't you get that?
I'm a murderer lover? Whose the man who sees a human being as a number that can be simply wiped off? I can't believe I'm quoting a mass murderer, but this fits:
One death is a tragedy. A million deaths is just a statistic - Joseph Stalin.
No matter what he has done, he still is a human being. Not to mention, this is might be what he wants. A sick douchebag in Japan committed horrid crimes in hope being EXECUTED and being publicly known. His reasons? He wanted to prove the world that they are sick as he is by supporting murder.
And once again, I say this:
[b] When a government has the authority to MURDER a HUMAN BEING and able to get away with it, with no REPERCUSSION and PENALTY, that's a fucking omen. That's worse than censorship. Worse than taking away the rights to bear arms. Worse than able to torture. THEY CAN MURDER WITHOUT ANY TROUBLE. This is the EXACT shit what our founding fathers feared the most! [/b]
You're letting your fucked up mind interfering with constitutional rights of the fucking United States of America. We built this place in hopes we will be the best first world civilized country in the world. We came up with the idea of higher natural laws, one of them being [b]LIFE.[/b] We always bitch about how countries like Iran is barbaric and savage, yet, when it comes to us, we're no different. We don't need people like you in this country.
I'm out of this thread, I'm tired of debating with bloodthirtsy people.
After reading posts by death penalty apologists here it's obvious that their decisions are being clouded by their primitive emotions of revenge, case in point: all these references to atrocities or hypothetical ones. It's irrelevant what crimes anyone has done or is accused of, I don't care whether talking about Hitler or someone whose hobby it is to eat babies, you need to disassociate the crimes from the punishment as the punishment isn't about revenge. The whole purpose of criminal punishment is to remove people from society for as long as is deemed necessary for them to correct their ways, if this happens to be until the day they die then so be it. Killing them is pointless and it's no different from a firing squad, you still bear some responsibility for the killing even if it's more diluted.
It's already been said before, and I agree that life in prison and being confined to a very small area for 99% of the remainder of your life is way worse than a quick and painless death. Then you have the issue of death penalty trials costing way more than life in prison, then there's always the chance the accused could be innocent as has been shown hundreds of times in America. So really, what argument is left? As far as I can see, there's no gain for having the death penalty, only loads of negatives.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;18463063]
Murder Definition: kill intentionally and with premeditation. I'm pretty sured the Japanese people intentionally killed my grandfather.
[/QUOTE]
I hate to nitpick, but:
Murder:
The [I]unlawful [/I]killing of one human by another, especially with premeditated malice.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;18460951]My grandfather was murdered by the Japanese in WW2, should I have the right to kill those Japanese soldiers?[/quote]
They're probably already dead.
[quote]Millions of Jews were slaughtered by German soldiers, while the people looked on and supported it, that's association, should we kill them too?[/quote]
Hitler did us the favor and killed himself.
[quote]The chinese is Nanking were raped, tortured, and murdered, by Japanese once again, let's murder them all.[/quote]
Again, probably dead already.
[quote]Thank god none of you murder hungry people are in any political position, otherwise that state would be back into the Dark Ages.
I suggest we put them in prison, where they belong. Don't like it? Fuck off and ship yourself to Iran.[/QUOTE]
Durr hurr executions = dark ages, time to dress up in my medieval armor and behead william wallace.
Stop being dumb.
[QUOTE=Darkcoder;18463910]After reading posts by death penalty apologists here it's obvious that their decisions are being clouded by their primitive emotions of revenge, case in point: all these references to atrocities or hypothetical ones. It's irrelevant what crimes anyone has done or is accused of, I don't care whether talking about Hitler or someone whose hobby it is to eat babies, you need to disassociate the crimes from the punishment as the punishment isn't about revenge. The whole purpose of criminal punishment is to remove people from society for as long as is deemed necessary for them to correct their ways, if this happens to be until the day they die then so be it. Killing them is pointless and it's no different from a firing squad, you still bear some responsibility for the killing even if it's more diluted.
It's already been said before, and I agree that life in prison and being confined to a very small area for 99% of the remainder of your life is way worse than a quick and painless death. Then you have the issue of death penalty trials costing way more than life in prison, then there's always the chance the accused could be innocent as has been shown hundreds of times in America. So really, what argument is left? As far as I can see, there's no gain for having the death penalty, only loads of negatives.[/QUOTE]
You're making way too much sense and way too little appeal to emotion. Your post shall never be recognized.
[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;18454036]Good thing that you do not decide what is human and what is not.[/QUOTE]
Why do people always say this? I didn't kill him, I didn't sentence him, I had nothing to do with the proceedings, I'm not a family member, but I sympathise with the families, not this asshole. It's just my opinion.
[quote]your status as a human being is irrevocable[/quote]
Unless of course you're the DC Sniper, in which case you're merely prey. And before you read that the wrong way, I meant people are prey to him, not that he is.
[editline]04:03AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;18453292]You do not and probably never will belong in United States of America, where the founding fathers held into the ideas of higher natural laws and was against cruel & unusual punishment.
Go to fucking Iran, where they are freely able to kill human beings much as they want. Don't bring your shit here, we're a first world civilization, and I want it to stay that way.
I recommend you watch Bullshit!: Death Penalty.[/QUOTE]
I don't want people to be freely able to kill human beings as they please. I simply feel that if you intentionally take several lives merely for pleasure, you forfeit your life.
I live in a first world nation, by the way. One that doesn't have one of the highest gun related death statistics in the world, thank you.
[QUOTE=Malumbre;18466244]
Unless of course you're the DC Sniper, in which case you're merely prey. And before you read that the wrong way, I meant people are prey to him, not that he is.
[/QUOTE]
We have some very good definitions of what a human being is, your actions can't change that. Please stop saying someone is not human.
[QUOTE=Benf199105;18458347]In my opinion, in this case an execution was valid.
He willingly and knowingly took the lives of a dozen people in cold blood.
Even though it is "medieval" to kill someone for their crimes; i think in this case if a man had murdered your family member with a hunting rifle whilst they were at the store; would you still say it was barbaric to execute him?
I think everyone needs to take a firm reality check.
If your dad or sister or brother went to the store and was shot dead there on the street, how would you feel?
Tell me you wouldn't want to kill the guy responsible?
Yes, you may say, surely we are as bad as a murderer, for we say "do not kill" but hypocritically we kill the ones who kill. Yes a paradox, but surely the only fitting punishment is an eye for an eye.
How else do we punish those who murder an innocent person? Life in prison? What is the point, let them live in solitary confinement, to go insane, become lonely, effectively dead anyway. Save the inmate the pain, suffering and isolation, and execute him. Give the family of those murdered closure, and let them see justice is done.
What else do you suggest?[/QUOTE]
this is why judges can't get emotionally attached to the case, come on everyone knows that... of course i'd rip his balls off, but i'd be biased to mars and back.
[QUOTE=Bomimo;18453097]you're a pathetic take on a grown up man with the rights to make decisions if you can't even read what you're swinging sledgehammers at.[/quote]
You're the one that made the assumption that we're under 18 and don't contribute to society. Unless you were talking about others, but then who were you talking about?
[quote]never said he did show remorse, i read the article, thankyou.[/quote]
You said it would fuck you up, and that you would want to express your deepest, sincerest apologies and remorse to the families of the victims you killed. This man did not show an ounce. What do you not understand about this? He wasn't fucked up over it, he didn't care, he wouldn't even let the families know why he did it. He had no intention of giving them any kind of relief or closure.
[quote]in no way, in my mind and moral code, is it ever acceptable to be a backseat executioner, which is what you're doing. this is just the same as contemplating murder and telling people about how much you wish to see x asshole dead. and that is not only bad carma but also looked down on in many mini societies.[/quote]
No, it isn't. I didn't kill anyone. I'm sure everyone thinks they wanna kill someone at some point in their life. It doesn't matter how serious they are if they aren't conspiring to, nor threatening to. The difference is action. I can think about killing people all I want, as long as nothing becomes of those thoughts.
[quote]it's not acceptable with Free "sane and rational" grown ups why the hell should you then be allowed to gloat and demean a dead man because he was a criminal?[/quote]
That's just your opinion. A lot of people feel the death penalty is perfectly fine. Also, how about because he [b][i]murdered multiple innocent victims[/i][/b]?
[QUOTE]what you're doing is hypocricy beyond any acceptable level, wake up and face the truth. at least tell me you don't believe in god, jesus or equality of man, cuz you just took a grand shit on all of those.[/quote]
I'm not being hypocritical. I'd certainly expect to be executed if I killed 10 or more people without remorse. Also, I don't believe in god or Jesus, but I do believe in equality. He was treated fairly by being killed. Actually, he deserved ten deaths, so he wasn't.
[quote]at least some of us have more sence than being this respectless.[/QUOTE]
Apparently he doesn't because he killed over 10 people. Let's treat him decently though.
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;18460951]If someone killed my brother or sister, sure I'd be pissed and wailing, but I'll know that in prison, that bastard is having the worst time of his life. Being told when to piss, shit, eat, socialize, work, and etc. You know [b]NOTING[/b] about prison, people seem to think that prison is a happy place. I've been raised my whole life to be a good person by my parents and to be against murderers, drug dealers, and etc. But what am I different when I actively support them to be dead.
An eye for an eye leaves the whole world fucking blind, what part of this do you murderer supporters do not get?
My grandfather was murdered by the Japanese in WW2, should I have the right to kill those Japanese soldiers?
Millions of Jews were slaughtered by German soldiers, while the people looked on and supported it, that's association, should we kill them too?
The chinese is Nanking were raped, tortured, and murdered, by Japanese once again, let's murder them all.
Thank god none of you murder hungry people are in any political position, otherwise that state would be back into the Dark Ages.
I suggest we put them in prison, where they belong. Don't like it? Fuck off and ship yourself to Iran.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;18463063]And it's [b]MY[/b] tax money to send him to the chair and get lethal injection. It's [b]MY[/b] tax money that gives him that last meal. I'll pay my taxes for universal healthcare, aid to certain countries, my local police, and etc. [b] but I will not pay my taxes to kill a fucking human being [/b].
It's still an eye for a fucking eye. Jesus Christ. Should the family of the DC Sniper have the right to kill the guy who injects him full of poison? Fuck no.
Murder Definition: kill intentionally and with premeditation. I'm pretty sured the Japanese people intentionally killed my grandfather.
Why is it ineffective? I heard majority of the Germans in the Death Camps laughed and contributed to the killing. Fuck, they were [b]directly[/b] involved! Kill them all I say! Dark Ages, fuck yeah!
I don't give a shit if it's war, murder is murder. Why can't you get that?
I'm a murderer lover? Whose the man who sees a human being as a number that can be simply wiped off? I can't believe I'm quoting a mass murderer, but this fits:
One death is a tragedy. A million deaths is just a statistic - Joseph Stalin.
No matter what he has done, he still is a human being. Not to mention, this is might be what he wants. A sick douchebag in Japan committed horrid crimes in hope being EXECUTED and being publicly known. His reasons? He wanted to prove the world that they are sick as he is by supporting murder.
And once again, I say this:
[b] When a government has the authority to MURDER a HUMAN BEING and able to get away with it, with no REPERCUSSION and PENALTY, that's a fucking omen. That's worse than censorship. Worse than taking away the rights to bear arms. Worse than able to torture. THEY CAN MURDER WITHOUT ANY TROUBLE. This is the EXACT shit what our founding fathers feared the most! [/b]
You're letting your fucked up mind interfering with constitutional rights of the fucking United States of America. We built this place in hopes we will be the best first world civilized country in the world. We came up with the idea of higher natural laws, one of them being [b]LIFE.[/b] We always bitch about how countries like Iran is barbaric and savage, yet, when it comes to us, we're no different. We don't need people like you in this country.
I'm out of this thread, I'm tired of debating with bloodthirtsy people.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Darkcoder;18463910]After reading posts by death penalty apologists here it's obvious that their decisions are being clouded by their primitive emotions of revenge, case in point: all these references to atrocities or hypothetical ones. It's irrelevant what crimes anyone has done or is accused of, I don't care whether talking about Hitler or someone whose hobby it is to eat babies, you need to disassociate the crimes from the punishment as the punishment isn't about revenge. The whole purpose of criminal punishment is to remove people from society for as long as is deemed necessary for them to correct their ways, if this happens to be until the day they die then so be it. Killing them is pointless and it's no different from a firing squad, you still bear some responsibility for the killing even if it's more diluted.
It's already been said before, and I agree that life in prison and being confined to a very small area for 99% of the remainder of your life is way worse than a quick and painless death. Then you have the issue of death penalty trials costing way more than life in prison, then there's always the chance the accused could be innocent as has been shown hundreds of times in America. So really, what argument is left? As far as I can see, there's no gain for having the death penalty, only loads of negatives.[/QUOTE]
you're fucking right, this is what i've been talking about all along. contemplating murder and screaming for an execution is as alike as can be. the only difference, sadly, is that the latter is totally socially acceptable. and that's fucking sad.
[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyGunz;18464396]They're probably already dead.
Durr hurr executions = dark ages, time to dress up in my medieval armor and behead william wallace.
Stop being dumb.[/QUOTE]
how about you stop being dumb. your attempt at an analogy of our stupid cries just underlines what you kids are yelling all the time. stop calling for mom, realize what you're doing and what has happened is morally discusting.
As far as I'm concerned, life in prison is just a death sentence with a longer wait period.
[QUOTE=Benf199105;18458347]
If your dad or sister or brother went to the store and was shot dead there on the street, how would you feel?
Tell me you wouldn't want to kill the guy responsible?[/QUOTE]
I don't know if I'd like to kill him since this event has never happened to me. But if in my blind rage I wanted him dead, that doesn't mean that it's justice to kill him.
[QUOTE=AlexH-;18461297]What the hell is so hard to understand? We know that [b]life in prison is torture[/b] but more importantly who the hell cares?! Why send him to life in prison living off of our money as he contributes nothing to society when we could just end his miserable life, save [b]him and us[/b] the suffering of jail.[/QUOTE]
It costs more to put someone to death than it does to keep them in jail for the rest of their life.
[QUOTE=Miigga;18468014]I don't know if I'd like to kill him since this event has never happened to me. But if in my blind rage I wanted him dead, that doesn't mean that it's justice to kill him.[/QUOTE]
No, the fact that he killed over 10 people is justification for killing him.
[editline]11:02AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=sp00ks;18466302]We have some very good definitions of what a human being is, your actions can't change that. Please stop saying someone is not human.[/QUOTE]
What did I say? Don't read it incorrectly. Lack of reading comprehension FTL. Have a dumb.
You guys have a very narrow way of thinking.
[QUOTE=Reaver1991;18469623]You guys have a very narrow way of thinking.[/QUOTE]
How much more vague could you possibly be?
How much stupider could you be?
[QUOTE=Malumbre;18466370]
What do you not understand about this? He wasn't fucked up over it, he didn't care, he wouldn't even let the families know why he did it. He had no intention of giving them any kind of relief or closure.
[/QUOTE]
Sounds to me like he was insane.
lolwutdude. What is your alternative to the death penalty? Jail?
Please can you explain why you think this is more of a deterrent than prison.
Let's not forget we only have punishments to act as deterrents, not because they are morally right or wrong.
[QUOTE=Reaver1991;18469678]How much stupider could you be?[/QUOTE]
You post at the end of an entire page worth of posts that "you guys" have a "vague view" without explaining your point of view or whom you're speaking of. With that amount of information to go on, I guess anyone would be stupid.
Oh, and to answer your post from before, no, I don't think the justice system is infallible.
[editline]11:25AM[/editline]
[QUOTE=Benf199105;18469728]Let's not forget we only have punishments to act as deterrents, not because they are morally right or wrong.[/QUOTE]
Exactly. He knew he may eventually end up in this situation due to his actions. He has no one to blame for his death but himself.
[editline]12:05PM[/editline]
Whoa, I totally skipped over this wall of text but I'm glad I went back and read it. Jesus Christ, let's start...
[QUOTE=lolwutdude;18463063]And it's [b]MY[/b] tax money to send him to the chair and get lethal injection. It's [b]MY[/b] tax money that gives him that last meal. I'll pay my taxes for universal healthcare, aid to certain countries, my local police, and etc. [b] but I will not pay my taxes to kill a fucking human being [/b].[/quote]
300,000,000 other people in your country paying taxes. I guess I have to remind you with every break in your quote that he killed 10 people and no one is murdering him, the state is executing him for atrocious crimes. He did this to himself. If you don't like it, do what you need to do to get the death penalty banned, or move out of the state/country.
[quote]Murder Definition: kill intentionally and with premeditation. I'm pretty sured the Japanese people intentionally killed my grandfather.[/quote]
You're wrong. I'm pretty sure Japanese people didn't get up one morning, travel to the United States, drive around in a car with a hole in the trunk, hop in there and pop off your grandpa while he was filling his Buick with gasoline.
It was war.
[quote]Why is it ineffective? I heard majority of the Germans in the Death Camps laughed and contributed to the killing. Fuck, they were [b]directly[/b] involved! Kill them all I say! Dark Ages, fuck yeah!
I don't give a shit if it's war, murder is murder. Why can't you get that?[/quote]
In war, it's you, or the other guy, so it could really be called self defense. Was that Japanese guy supposed to let your dad kill him first? You'd be a terrible soldier if you think doing what it takes to win the war and get home safely is wrong.
You make it sound like the sniper is equivalent to someone to kills an intruder bearing arms in their home.
[quote]I'm a murderer lover? Whose the man who sees a human being as a number that can be simply wiped off? I can't believe I'm quoting a mass murderer, but this fits:
One death is a tragedy. A million deaths is just a statistic - Joseph Stalin.[/quote]
And yet I hear all kinds of support for this one person. We all know his name and we're focussed on his "unfair murder." I bet you don't know the names of all ten of his victims. They're just 10 people, just a statistic. Let's see the same amount of protest for each individual murdered by this maniac. Stand back and reevaluate whether or not he deserves to live after you see the gravestones of each victim, and the 10 families who are torn apart because of his actions.
[quote]And once again, I say this:
[b] When a government has the authority to MURDER a HUMAN BEING and able to get away with it, with no REPERCUSSION and PENALTY, that's a fucking omen. That's worse than censorship. Worse than taking away the rights to bear arms. Worse than able to torture. THEY CAN MURDER WITHOUT ANY TROUBLE. This is the EXACT shit what our founding fathers feared the most! [/b][/quote]
Boohoo, he knew he risked receiving the death penalty for killing 10 people. He committed an elaborate suicide.
[quote]You're letting your fucked up mind interfering with constitutional rights of the fucking United States of America. We built this place in hopes we will be the best first world civilized country in the world. We came up with the idea of higher natural laws, one of them being [b]LIFE.[/b] We always bitch about how countries like Iran is barbaric and savage, yet, when it comes to us, we're no different. We don't need people like you in this country.[/quote]
You're right. One of the highest death rates due to guns, religious fanaticism, intolerance, bigotry and an incredible penchant for war. I agree with you.
[quote]I'm out of this thread, I'm tired of debating with bloodthirtsy people.[/QUOTE]
I'm not bloodthirsty. He went to sleep, he wasn't blasted with a rifle or beheaded. It was quick, painless, and he was at least given a few last requests, like a meal and saying goodbye to his family. His victims weren't given the same.
Bye.
Thank you Malumbre, at least some people have a damn brain in their head. I'm convinced that lolwutdude is some scared 13 year old after reading is remarkably supererogatory response.
[QUOTE=Omali;18468517]It costs more to put someone to death than it does to keep them in jail for the rest of their life.[/QUOTE]
[url=http://www.chacha.com/question/does-it-cost-more-to-kill-a-prison-inmate-or-sentence-one-to-life-in-prison]hurr[/url]
it [b]only[/b] costs more in special conditions when people take years to convict people in states that are very mixed about the death penalty. In a system where the death penalty was an acceptable punishment by all states, it would be almost half the cost. Damn bleeding heart liberals got their head up their ass.
I bet if your mother and father where amongst the 10 this bastard killed, without thought, emotion, without any consideration, you'd be feeling a lot differently. If you don't act human, why should we treat you human?
The killing of man is never justified.
[QUOTE=Egevened;18497150]The killing of man is never justified.[/QUOTE]
Well I hope I never find myself with you in a life or death situation involving hostile people.
I thought most civilised countries banned the death sentence.
Since the anti-death penalty philosophy is based on all humans having equal and infinite value, I've got a question: Would you rather one 1 innocent person die, or 100 rapists and murderers?
[QUOTE=the_shape;18497458]I thought most civilised countries banned the death sentence.[/QUOTE]
What does that say about America then?
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[QUOTE=lmaoboat;18497534]Since the anti-death penalty philosophy is based on all humans having equal and infinite value, I've got a question: Would you rather one 1 innocent person die, or 100 rapists and murderers?[/QUOTE]
100 rapists and murderers. They committed 100 acts each or more against other people.
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