[QUOTE=:smug:;18301388]You're sinking down to his level.[/QUOTE]
By killing [b]one[/b] man who's guilty of murdering [b]ten[/b] innocent people?
[QUOTE=TH89;18300275]Why? What makes government-authorized murder different from government-authorized rape?[/QUOTE]
Maybe we should ask Russia about government authorized rape. They seem to have a lot of experience with it. They should know best.
We are all going to die. If somebody is going to decide that they won't do anything constructive in their lifetime and instead take away someone else's life. There is obviously no point in keeping them alive.
Hate the death penalty.
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[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;18301404]By killing [b]one[/b] man who's guilty of murdering [b]ten[/b] innocent people?[/QUOTE]
Makes 11 people. What does that give people? Another one has to die, that doesn't bring them back and does not solve anything.
i can't believe these idiots are arguing about the death penalty
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how can you have sympathy of a killer?
[QUOTE=PoorFellow;18301949]how can you have sympathy of a killer?[/QUOTE]
I don't. I just don't like the idea of people judging about other peoples life and murdering them.
[QUOTE=Johnnsen;18301851]Hate the death penalty.
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Makes 11 people. What does that give people? Another one has to die, that doesn't bring them back and does not solve anything.[/QUOTE]
It solves the money problem of keeping him alive. Plus, you know, there's the "justice" factor.
If I go out and kill a bunch of people, you're saying I shouldn't be punished because, "it doesn't solve anything".
[QUOTE=Johnnsen;18301994]I don't. I just don't like the idea of people judging about other peoples life and murdering them.[/QUOTE]
please read what Emperor Scorpious he knows what he's talking about
he actually has logical reasoning in his statement
you however is just based on your own morals
[QUOTE=PoorFellow;18302025]please read what Emperor Scorpious he knows what he's talking about[/QUOTE]
:v:
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;18302010]It solves the money problem of keeping him alive. Plus, you know, there's the "justice" factor.
If I go out and kill a bunch of people, you're saying I shouldn't be punished because, "it doesn't solve anything".[/QUOTE]
duuuuh one eye for another. Old testament yay. No, I just say that you shouldn't be killed because of it. Thats not justice.
I'm out of this thread, I'm just happy I don't live in that country where justice is that you take a persons life because he did the same, where it was considered a crime.
[QUOTE=Johnnsen;18302045]duuuuh one eye for another. Old testament yay. No, I just say that you shouldn't be killed because of it. Thats not justice.
I'm out of this thread, I'm just happy I don't live in that country where justice is that you take a persons life because he did the same, where it was considered a crime.[/QUOTE]
just go away
If someone truly shows remorse for their actions, I dont think they should be executed for it.
Should give him a shitty job in the middle of nowhere.(kinda like australia)
[QUOTE=PoorFellow;18302073]just go away[/QUOTE]
Ooh poor fellow doesn't like opinions. I'm not against penalty, I just find it inhuman to kill people because of "justice".
[QUOTE=Pepsi-cola;18302074]If someone truly shows remorse for their actions, I dont think they should be executed for it.
Should give him a shitty job in the middle of nowhere.(kinda like australia)[/QUOTE]
make him slave!1
[QUOTE=Wolf_Marine;18300165]Harsh but effective. Even today sometimes barbaric behavior requires a barbaric response to get the message across that such behavior is unacceptable.[/QUOTE]
What? Death penalty is a terrible deterrent, motives for crime either involve throwing away rationality or planning to not get caught.
[QUOTE=Johnnsen;18302085]Ooh poor fellow doesn't like opinions. I'm not against penalty, I just find it inhuman to kill people because of this justice.[/QUOTE]
we should end our bickering now
this argument well never end if we continue this
[QUOTE=PoorFellow;18302109]we should end our bickering now[/QUOTE]
I agree. I see your point, i really do. But I just find it scary and inhuman.
[QUOTE=Johnnsen;18302126]I agree. I see your point, i really do. But I just find it scary and inhuman.[/QUOTE]
i can see your point as well. watching a person die truly is disturbing, i've seen executions performed in the most barbaric ways possible. it's quite sad
[QUOTE=PoorFellow;18302025]please read what Emperor Scorpious he knows what he's talking about
he actually has logical reasoning in his statement
you however is just based on your own morals[/QUOTE]
Uhm it's pretty much the other way around there isn't any argument for the death penalty that isn't based on ideas of morales, vengeance and middle-aged "justice".
[QUOTE=Poltergeist Three;18302186]Uhm it's pretty much the other way around there isn't any argument for the death penalty that isn't based on ideas of morales, vengeance and middle-aged "justice".[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PoorFellow;18302109]we should end our bickering now
this argument well never end if we continue this[/QUOTE]
please refer to my post
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yes rate me dumb because i have an opinion
[QUOTE=Cheezy;18300196]I've said it before and I'm saying it again; The US is a [i]developing[/i] country.[/QUOTE]
I've said it before and I'm saying it again; the US is a [i]developed[/i] country.
[media]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d2/UN_Human_Development_Report_2009.PNG/800px-UN_Human_Development_Report_2009.PNG[/media]
[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index]Source[/url]
In fact, we're more developed than the Brits.
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yea i know blah bah blah wikipedia isnt reliable blah blah
[QUOTE=PoorFellow;18302197]please refer to my post
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yes rate me dumb because i have an opinion[/QUOTE]
I think what you mean is that you don't have a palpable argument.
[QUOTE=Pepsi-cola;18302074]If someone truly shows remorse for their actions, I dont think they should be executed for it.
Should give him a shitty job in the middle of nowhere.(kinda like australia)[/QUOTE]
There's no way you can tell if someone is being completely honest in remorse.
[QUOTE=PoorFellow;18302197]please refer to my post
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yes rate me dumb because i have an opinion[/QUOTE]
We're suppose to discuss things in here.
killed my automerge
[QUOTE=Johnnsen;18302126]I agree. I see your point, i really do. But I just find it scary and inhuman.[/QUOTE]
Strange that humanity have been executing people for 10,000 years, yet they word "[b]human[/b]e" is attributed to [i]not[/i] execute someone. :v:
[QUOTE=Poltergeist Three;18302234]I think what you mean is that you don't have a palpable argument.[/QUOTE]
No, I think I do. Executing mass-murderers benefits us financially and I just think it is right to kill them off for what they have done.
I believe "Life" is one of those unalienable rights.
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I understand that you lose certain rights upon being found guilty but...
[QUOTE=PoorFellow;18302277]No, I think I do. Executing mass-murderers benefits us financially[/quote]
Has been disproved on page 2.
[quote][QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;18300557]Please tell me you're being sarcastic[/QUOTE]
[quote]"Using conservative rough projections, the Commission estimates the annual costs of the present system ($137 million per year), the present system after implementation of the reforms ... ($232.7 million per year) ... and a system which imposes a maximum penalty of lifetime incarceration instead of the death penalty ($11.5 million)."
--California Commission on the Fair Administration of Justice, July 1, 2008
Recent Cost Studies
A 2003 legislative audit in Kansas found that the estimated cost of a death penalty case was 70% more than the cost of a comparable non-death penalty case. Death penalty case costs were counted through to execution (median cost $1.26 million). Non-death penalty case costs were counted through to the end of incarceration (median cost $740,000).
(December 2003 Survey by the Kansas Legislative Post Audit)
In Tennessee, death penalty trials cost an average of 48% more than the average cost of trials in which prosecutors seek life imprisonment.
(2004 Report from Tennessee Comptroller of the Treasury Office of Research)
In Maryland death penalty cases cost 3 times more than non-death penalty cases, or $3 million for a single case.
(Urban Institute, The Cost of the Death Penalty in Maryland, March 2008)
In California the current sytem costs $137 million per year; it would cost $11.5 million for a system without the death penalty.
(California Commission for the Fair Administration of Justice, July 2008)[/quote]
[url]http://www.amnestyusa.org/death-penalty/death-penalty-facts/death-penalty-cost/page.do?id=1101084[/url]
It's true, the death sentence costs more. Another reason why it should be abolished (apart from the fact that the costs should never play a role when it's about a human life).[/quote]
[QUOTE=PoorFellow;18302277]and I just think it is right to kill them off for what they have done.[/QUOTE]
Personal idea of justice.
[QUOTE=Billiam;18302321]I believe "Life" is one of those unalienable rights.
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I understand that you lose certain rights upon being found guilty but...[/QUOTE]
But..?
[QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;18302276]Strange that humanity have been executing people for 10,000 years, yet they word "[b]human[/b]e" is attributed to [i]not[/i] execute someone. :v:[/QUOTE]
We should go back to enslaving other races and cultures, humans have been doing it for 1000 of years so it can't be wrong.
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