• Virginia set to execute 'DC sniper' tonight
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[QUOTE=Linelor;18306422]I very seriously believe they should bring back the firing squad for this guy. That or, justly, shoot him in the neck and let him bleed to death.[/QUOTE] I prefer firing squad to lethal injection if I had to pick a way to go
[QUOTE=Perfumly;18306443]I prefer firing squad to lethal injection if I had to pick a way to go[/QUOTE] A lot of the time the person survives and needs to be refired upon. But then again, that might be a good thing with this guy...
[QUOTE=Perfumly;18306443]I prefer firing squad to lethal injection if I had to pick a way to go[/QUOTE] Firing squad is better because you get it sit there and bleed to death which is probably what you deserve. Lethal injection is pretty much anesthesia then something that stops your heart. So you don't feel anything and basically die in your sleep. [editline]06:32PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Emperor Scorpious II;18306484]A lot of the time the person survives and needs to be refired upon. But then again, that might be a good thing with this guy...[/QUOTE] Don't need to refire if you just let him lay there and die.
But with firing squad and lying there bleeding to death the pain is only there for a short while before you get high off DMT from your brain. Infinite dream hello
[QUOTE=Jenkem;18305710]True eye for an eye would be shooting him. Lethal injection is more of an approximation, and in my opinion is almost too nice to be called execution. My reasoning (this is not taking religion into account) is this: He denied other people their right to their lives. Why should we let him live on when he viciously ripped life from others? He still has many years he could live, costing us to maintain him for however long he lasts. Why not just get rid of him? Think about it: He would not show mercy unto others. Why does a dog of a man like him deserve anything more?[/QUOTE] This. A true eye for an eye? Let him loose upon an open field unarmed and let a sniper on a nearby ridge toy with him before painfully taking him out. I quote Roshak "Men get arrested. Dogs get put down."
[QUOTE=Linelor;18306498]Firing squad is better because you get it sit there and bleed to death which is probably what you deserve. Lethal injection is pretty much anesthesia then something that stops your heart. So you don't feel anything and basically die in your sleep.[/QUOTE] A little blood hungry are we now?
[QUOTE=Billiam;18306549]A little blood hungry are we now?[/QUOTE] No, I'm just a normal person who isn't sick in the head thinking that people should feel sorry for him and that he should be treated nicely. I think he should get what he deserves.
[QUOTE=Linelor;18306580]No, I'm just a normal person who isn't sick in the head thinking that people should feel sorry for him and that he should be treated nicely. I think he should get what he deserves.[/QUOTE] When did I ever say any of this shit? I believe he should live so I must believe he's a good person? Just because I hate certain people, that doesn't give me the urge to disembowel them.
Capital punishment is a grotesque display of political power. [editline]12:44AM[/editline] I'm bad at reading apparently.
[QUOTE=Danni;18306638]Capital punishment is a grotesque display of political power.[/QUOTE] When used as such, it is immoral. I don't, however, think that I'd be satisfied seeing those who rape and kill at will spend the rest of their lives in a nice little cell with Cable TV and books to read. No, they deserve to die. Why? Because they violated the rights of others, took their lives of innocents, and the ones they left alive they left broken. Criminal Narcissists and Sociopaths who have taken lives or preyed upon the weak should be removed. I'd have a harder time shooting a rabid dog than shooting that kind of scum.
[QUOTE=Linelor;18306299]Shame it's lethal injection. He doesn't deserve a painless death.[/QUOTE] Well given that doctors can't participate in lethal injections due to the Hippocratic oath, they can't dose the chemicals appropriately so there's a substantial chance that he'll be underdosed and be in [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woBUtoh02ic#t=8m10]excruciating pain.[/url]
[QUOTE=jordguitar;18300101]No, sensibility that we are still technically doing eye for a eye type of punishment. Except its do horrible thing get sent to death row and executed. It is pointless and it would be better to keep them alive until they die. Or at least the ones who know what they have done and feel horrible about it. But the whole execution thing never got through to me in the way everyone else is going at it.[/QUOTE] So you want your tax dollars to go towards people living in prison instead of dying? After all, dead people don't need shit. No food, no water, no place to sleep, etc. And the whole thing about "the ones who know what they have done and feel horrible" is far too subjective and would cause a controversy. Personally, I think we should execute more. There are people who just don't belong on this planet, and even if we fed them dog shit and made them sleep in tents, someone would have to pay so that they could be watched and it sure as hell shouldn't be the taxpayers.
[QUOTE=archangel125;18306707]When used as such, it is immoral. I don't, however, think that I'd be satisfied seeing those who rape and kill at will spend the rest of their lives in a nice little cell with Cable TV and books to read. No, they deserve to die. Why? Because they violated the rights of others, took their lives or innocent, and the ones they left alive they left broken. Criminal Narcissists and Sociopaths who have taken lives or preyed upon the weak should be removed. I'd have a harder time shooting a rabid dog than shooting that kind of scum.[/QUOTE] I don't believe in eye for an eye.
[QUOTE=Danni;18306769]I don't believe in eye for an eye.[/QUOTE] I don't believe in paying taxes to keep such people warm and well-fed, either.
I don't care if he's a murderer or not. If your friend or family member gets killed and you go and kill the murderer in cold blood we still convict you to pay for your crime. We don't let you go because the other guy deserved it. [editline]12:50AM[/editline] [QUOTE=archangel125;18306793]I don't believe in paying taxes to keep such people warm and well-fed, either.[/QUOTE] People shouldn't have to die because you don't like how your government works. [editline]12:55AM[/editline] [QUOTE=archangel125;18306707]When used as such, it is immoral. I don't, however, think that I'd be satisfied seeing those who rape and kill at will spend the rest of their lives in a nice little cell with Cable TV and books to read. No, they deserve to die. Why? Because they violated the rights of others, took their lives of innocents, and the ones they left alive they left broken. Criminal Narcissists and Sociopaths who have taken lives or preyed upon the weak should be removed. I'd have a harder time shooting a rabid dog than shooting that kind of scum.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't be satisfied about it either but my discontent for murder doesn't make me support another.
[QUOTE=trent_roolz;18306762]So you want your tax dollars to go towards people living in prison instead of dying?[/quote] What will it take to understand that the american capital punishment system [url=http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty]is orders of magnitude more expensive than life incarceration?[/url] Even in the most 'efficient' state it's more costly by a factor of 3.
[QUOTE=archangel125;18306793]I don't believe in paying taxes to keep such people warm and well-fed, either.[/QUOTE] I don't believe in paying double the amount of money in order for me to kill a person. [editline]07:57PM[/editline] Okay triple then.
Why kill these people? They've already taken so much away from society, let's at least give them a chance to give SOMETHING back. Now don't get me wrong, they shouldn't be forgiven at all for what they did (or in some cases, didn't do... but that's a different story), but what good will come out of the most obsolete form of punishment in the developed world?
[QUOTE=Linelor;18306580]No, I'm just a normal person who isn't sick in the head thinking that people should feel sorry for him and that he should be treated nicely. I think he should get what he deserves.[/QUOTE] Agreed. I live less than 2 miles from one of the shootings, having been to the gas station where it occurred, and after living in fear of being shot while walking with my friends, I feel the bastard is getting what he deserves.
One less asshole, I'm not complaining.
[QUOTE=Linelor;18306580]No, I'm just a normal person who isn't sick in the head thinking that people should feel sorry for him and that he should be treated nicely. I think he should get what he deserves.[/QUOTE] But you condone murder. You even elaborated on how you wished it were painful for him and used his victims as an argument.
Murder is perfectly acceptable if it's better for society as a whole. [no i am not an authoritarian / commie pinko go away] This is an example, although I do believe some cheap 9mm aspirin would be more effective in saving costs.
[QUOTE=Athena;18306918]What will it take to understand that the american capital punishment system [url=http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty]is orders of magnitude more expensive than life incarceration?[/url] Even in the most 'efficient' state it's more costly by a factor of 3.[/QUOTE] The article clearly states that most of the money used to give the death penalty is just making people agree to give him the death penalty. If we loosened up and gave people what they deserved instead of sugar coating their punishment we wouldn't spend so much money on getting people to agree to it.
[QUOTE=Flitchaye;18307185]Murder is perfectly acceptable if it's better for society as a whole. [no i am not an authoritarian / commie pinko go away] This is an example, although I do believe some cheap 9mm aspirin would be more effective in saving costs.[/QUOTE] So we should perform genocide on mentally and physically retarded? [editline]08:11PM[/editline] [QUOTE=trent_roolz;18307194]The article clearly states that most of the money used to give the death penalty is just making people agree to give him the death penalty. If we loosened up and gave people what they deserved instead of sugar coating their punishment we wouldn't spend so much money on getting people to agree to it.[/QUOTE] Then you make the system subjective to fallacies, and you can end up killing an innocent man. That makes you, me, and everyone in the US a murderer.
[QUOTE=Flitchaye;18307185]Murder is perfectly acceptable if it's better for society as a whole. [no i am not an authoritarian / commie pinko go away] This is an example, although I do believe some cheap 9mm aspirin would be more effective in saving costs.[/QUOTE] Heil.
[QUOTE=Flitchaye;18307185]Murder is perfectly acceptable if it's better for society as a whole. [no i am not an authoritarian / commie pinko go away][/quote] If it quacks like a duck
Thank god, this guy made me hide in my house scared for weeks as a kid back in 2002.
[QUOTE=Billiam;18307202]That makes you, me, and everyone in the US a murderer.[/QUOTE] And innocent people have been sentenced to death before. I don't think that makes every tax paying US citizen a murderer, apathy isn't a crime.
[QUOTE=Billiam;18307202]So we should perform genocide on mentally and physically retarded? [editline]08:11PM[/editline][/quote] note: I did not mention eugenics, and I highly doubt that in itself, it is better for society as a whole, not to mention that I have severe hearing loss in both ears and wear hearing aids.
Please lethal injection is nothing. They sedate you heavily, i mean lethal amounts of sedatives, then inject you. You spend your last moments higher then the space shuttle breaking the atmosphere. You're killed whilst in euphoria.
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