[QUOTE=mysteryman;18307333]Please lethal injection is nothing.
They sedate you heavily, i mean lethal amounts of sedatives, then inject you. You spend your last moments higher then the space shuttle breaking the atmosphere. You're killed whilst in euphoria.[/QUOTE]
Or the vein can collapse as the people giving you the injection will continuously stab you with a needle again and again until they can find another vein.
[QUOTE=trent_roolz;18307194]The article clearly states that most of the money used to give the death penalty is just making people agree to give him the death penalty. If we loosened up and gave people what they deserved instead of sugar coating their punishment we wouldn't spend so much money on getting people to agree to it.[/QUOTE]
Assuming guilt is one of the basic tenets of the American justice system...or was it innocence? Who cares, let's make some popcorn in the electric chair before the show.
Is he dead yet? What time is his execution?
[QUOTE=Flitchaye;18307358]Or the vein can collapse as the people giving you the injection will continuously stab you with a needle again and again until they can find another vein.[/QUOTE]
you will already be sedated and won't fell a thing before they inject you. They look for the vein for the actual lethal injection, the sedatives and just injected essentially any where. getting it in the vein just makes it travel around the body much faster, and a much faster death too.
[QUOTE=Flitchaye;18307358]Or the vein can collapse as the people giving you the injection will continuously stab you with a needle again and again until they can find another vein.[/QUOTE]
Why? It betters society.
Oh fuck quoted the wrong guy.
I meant the guy who talked about murder is good for society.
[QUOTE=mysteryman;18307413]you will already be sedated and won't fell a thing before they inject you. They look for the vein for the actual lethal injection, the sedatives and just injected essentially any where. getting it in the vein just makes it travel around the body much faster, and a much faster death too.[/QUOTE]
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woBUtoh02ic#t=8m10]No[/url]
[url=http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/TyAlperLethInj.pdf]No[/url]
[url=http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=995812##]No[/url]
[QUOTE=Billiam;18307573]Why? It betters society.
Oh fuck quoted the wrong guy.
I meant the guy who talked about murder is good for society.[/QUOTE]
[i]I highly doubt that in itself, it is better for society as a whole.[/i]
[QUOTE=ChilColdCoolaid;18300118]"Malvo said the Washington killings were "phase one" of a three-phase plan. In subsequent phases, Malvo said, Muhammad planned to use $10 million to create a utopian community for homeless people in Canada, at which young people would be trained to go launch additional attacks in the United States."
What the fuck.[/QUOTE]
Genius, I mean, armies of hobos? Thats brilliant.
[QUOTE=smurfy;18300150][img]http://imgkk.com/i/jZD.png[/img]
Blue = Abolished for all offenses (94)
Green = Abolished for all offenses except under special circumstances (10)
Orange = Retains, though not used for at least 10 years (35)
Red = Retains death penalty (58)
I guess we can add abolition of capital punishment to the list of stuff America just doesn't fucking get. I'll just put it here right under social democracy, the metric system, gay marriage...[/QUOTE]
The reason we don't make a nationwide change to the metric system is that it will cost a fuckton of money. Having to change all sorts of signs, labels, documents, etc. is going to raise a huge bill to pay.
[QUOTE=Flitchaye;18307613][i]I highly doubt that in itself, it is better for society as a whole.[/i][/QUOTE]
Why? Less money in public education for programs for mentally disabled means more money for programs for the more likely to contribute to society. Less tax-exempt charities, oh and lets not forget Darwinism.
[QUOTE=Billiam;18307703]Why? Less money in public education for programs for mentally disabled means more money for programs for the more likely to contribute to society. Less tax-exempt charities, oh and lets not forget Darwinism.[/QUOTE]
Except, you know, they don't go on murdering sprees.
You all are bleeding heart pussies.
He killed 10 (Thats 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10. That many) people.
And he didn't just go on a shooting rampage, he shot them with a sniper rifle, he saw their faces and their expressions. He is a heartless murderer. He deserves to die.
[QUOTE=Somu;18307034]Why kill these people? They've already taken so much away from society, let's at least give them a chance to give SOMETHING back. Now don't get me wrong, they shouldn't be forgiven at all for what they did (or in some cases, didn't do... but that's a different story), but what good will come out of the most obsolete form of punishment in the developed world?[/QUOTE]
Because they don't give back to society.
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[QUOTE=Uberman77883;18307754]You all are bleeding heart pussies.
He killed 10 (Thats 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10. That many) people.
And he didn't just go on a shooting rampage, he shot them with a sniper rifle, he saw their faces and their expressions. He is a heartless murderer. He deserves to die.[/QUOTE]
16 actually, and wounded 4.
[QUOTE=Flitchaye;18307736]Except, you know, they don't go on murdering sprees.[/QUOTE]
Okay? You said specifically I believe murder is okay if it betters society, how does this not better society?
[QUOTE=Billiam;18307776]Okay? You said specifically I believe murder is okay if it betters society, how does this not better society?[/QUOTE]
On the subject at hand, he did not better society and tore families apart with his little killing spree and wanting to build killer hobo camps against America to do more of that.
On the eugenics issue, killing a person who has no choice in the matter and did not do anything to deserve it is entirely wrong.
[QUOTE=Flitchaye;18307823]On the eugenics issue, killing a person who has no choice in the matter and did not do anything to deserve it is entirely wrong.[/QUOTE]
Okay so you don't believe that killing people so long as it's good for society is acceptable.
Good, What gives him the right to kill people.
If he goes to prison he will get 3 square meals a day, which is a lot more than some people in this world.
[QUOTE=Billiam;18307857]Okay so you don't believe that killing people so long as it's good for society is acceptable.[/QUOTE]
:downs:
[QUOTE=Flitchaye;18307914]:downs:[/QUOTE]
Hey, you said it.
[QUOTE=Uberman77883;18307622]Genius, I mean, armies of hobos? Thats brilliant.[/QUOTE]
Hmm... that [i]is[/i] a brilliant idea. With homelessness on the rise in Toronto and the fact that many of the homeless are mentally weak and easy to manipulate... I have to try this.
[QUOTE=Billiam;18307926]Hey, you said it.[/QUOTE]
You were contorting what I said to begin with into a completely different thing. You're defining eugenics as perfectly acceptable in my definition, which I strongly disagree with in my definition.
[QUOTE=Flitchaye;18307949]You were contorting what I said to begin with into a completely different thing. You're defining eugenics as perfectly acceptable in my definition, which I strongly disagree with in my definition.[/QUOTE]
I contorted nothing you said or took anything out of context, perhaps you should watch what you say?
[QUOTE=Watevaman;18307052]Agreed. I live less than 2 miles from one of the shootings, having been to the gas station where it occurred, and after living in fear of being shot while walking with my friends, I feel the bastard is getting what he deserves.[/QUOTE]
I was at the gas station he shot somebody at just the sunday after it happened. It's right next to a large, brown building, right? Right off Randolph Road?
[QUOTE=Billiam;18307991]I contorted nothing you said or took anything out of context, perhaps you should watch what you say?[/QUOTE]
You brought in eugenics, which I mentioned nowhere in my definition, nor did I imply it anywhere.
Perhaps you should watch what you say?
[QUOTE=Flitchaye;18308038]You brought in eugenics, which I mentioned nowhere in my definition, nor did I imply it anywhere.
Perhaps you should watch what you say?[/QUOTE]
Eugenics are completely related to the concept of murder + betterment of society.
[QUOTE=Billiam;18308057]Eugenics are completely related to the concept of murder + betterment of society.[/QUOTE]
Not in my definition. :frog:
I've never really enjoyed the death penalty, mostly because of that fact of how the innocent could affected by it. I can't complain too much about this incident in particular, though.
[QUOTE=Flitchaye;18308078]Not in my definition. :frog:[/QUOTE]
Alrighty then, you should've been more specific then, huh?
[QUOTE=Billiam;18308091]Alrighty then, you should've been more specific then, huh?[/QUOTE]
My apologies, then. :downs:
[QUOTE=Billiam;18308057]Eugenics are completely related to the concept of murder + betterment of society.[/QUOTE]
The man admits he would do it again. You execute him to ensure he doesn't kill more people.
How is that Eugenics?
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