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[QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;34523672]Or anything that isn't a brown eyed, brown haired male. :downs: Which is why they prevented a single, black mother with three children from being raped in my neighbor hood today.[/QUOTE] ok so they did their job??? sure does make up for all the times they don't!
[QUOTE=Zeke129;34523620]the US supreme court ruled that you are allowed to resist unlawful arrest up to and including taking the officer's life but this is impossible to do since if you kill a cop in self defense there will be many more there to kill you[/QUOTE] what really i want proof so next time i murder a cop i have proof that it was okay
[QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;34523672]Or anything that isn't a brown eyed, brown haired male. :downs: Which is why they prevented a single, black mother with three children from being raped in my neighbor hood today.[/QUOTE] lol what are you doing. what you're doing certainly isn't "trying to understand the moderated views people have instead of merely hyperbolizing everything anyone says about the police in order to get into arguments with strawmen" I can assure you that you ain't doing [i]that[/i]
[QUOTE=Clementine;34523689]what really i want proof so next time i murder a cop i have proof that it was okay[/QUOTE] [url]http://constitution.org/uslaw/defunlaw.htm[/url] John Bad Elk v. U.S., 177 U.S. 529 was decided on April 30, 1900 though. There hasn't been a contrary ruling since but it's likely much harder to get away with now.
[QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;34523672]Or anything that isn't a brown eyed, brown haired male. :downs: Which is why they prevented a single, black mother with three children from being raped in my neighbor hood today.[/QUOTE] if you really wanna play this stupid game: which is why they also shot a black dude for having a candy bar that looked like a gun [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeOaTpYl8mE[/media]
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;34523686]ok so they did their job??? sure does make up for all the times they don't![/QUOTE] More Police Officers do their jobs more than the corrupt ones don't. The media is going to report anything bad, or anything good. It happens all the time. I'm not saying what they did was right. But the hate on ALL police is just stupid. [QUOTE=thisispain;34523742]if you really wanna play this stupid game: which is why they also shot a black dude for having a candy bar that looked like a gun Video here[/QUOTE] British soldiers in the middle east where cutting off fingers from Taliban. All British soldiers are evil :downs: [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2073002/Military-Cross-hero-faces-war-crimes-trial-cutting-fingers-dead-Taliban-fighters.html[/url] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-14441627[/url] [url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/08/british-soldier-taliban-fingers-souvenirs[/url]
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;34523570]To protect and serve![/QUOTE] [I][U]"To protect, Serve, And to control the poor."[/U][/I] [sub][sub][sub][sub]WKUK is great[/sub][/sub][/sub][/sub]
lol british soldiers. british soldiers have only recently become less evil. before that they were mostly the armed division of a brutal imperialist nation.
[QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;34523764]More Police Officers do their jobs more than the corrupt ones don't. The media is going to report anything bad, or anything good. It happens all the time. British soldiers in the middle east where cutting off fingers from Taliban. All British soldiers are evil :downs: [url]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2073002/Military-Cross-hero-faces-war-crimes-trial-cutting-fingers-dead-Taliban-fighters.html[/url] [url]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-14441627[/url] [url]http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/08/british-soldier-taliban-fingers-souvenirs[/url][/QUOTE] noones saying all cops are bad. we're saying there's something seriously wrong with the police institution when these sort of things happen AT ALL and that very often they happen unpunished as well. but sure go ahead and help perpetuate the current system with your "WELL THEY'RE NOT ALL BAD!" that even 1 is bad shows theres something wrong.
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;34523782]noones saying all cops are bad. we're saying there's something seriously wrong with the police institution when these sort of things happen AT ALL and that very often they happen unpunished as well. but sure go ahead and help perpetuate the current system with your "WELL THEY'RE NOT ALL BAD!" that even 1 is bad shows theres something wrong.[/QUOTE] They aren't all bad. And it's going to be literally impossible to have a police force with a such a huge population without any bad apples in it. Hell. It's going to be impossible anywhere to have any type of force, either military, police or even medical without having any bad apples. Its sad and terrible, but it's the truth. A lot of people on Facepunch have the problem of thinking is instantly bad because of one person, or one thing.
[QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;34523844]They aren't all bad. And it's going to be literally impossible to have a police force with a such a huge population without any bad apples in it. Hell. It's going to be impossible anywhere to have any type of force, either military, police or even medical without having any bad apples. It's sad. But it's the truth. A lot of people on Facepunch have the problem of thinking is instantly bad because of one person, or one thing.[/QUOTE] except this isn't a matter of a few bad apples, it's a matter of a corrupted institution which gives extreme power with a lack of extreme responsibility that TURNS people into bad apples, or isn't stringent enough to weed out the bad apples.
[QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;34523844]And it's going to be literally impossible to have a police force with a such a huge population without any bad apples in it. [/QUOTE] okay that's fine but let's at least fucking try
Holy shit. It's scary reading abuse of power stories like this within your own general northeast neighborhood.
[QUOTE=T2L_Goose;34523570]To protect and serve![/QUOTE] [img]http://www.musclecarparts.biz/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/punish-and-enslave.jpg[/img] ?
Is it just me or does "Peace officer" sound like something 1984-esque?
Off duty police should have equal rights to any other person Just because your job involves occasionally beating people who assault you shouldn't mean you can legally get away with it whenever somebody so much as touches you
[QUOTE=thisispain;34523780]lol british soldiers. british soldiers have only recently become less evil. before that they were mostly the armed division of a brutal imperialist nation.[/QUOTE] While you're right about that last bit, British soldiers aren't to blame at all. It's the generals and top brass that are. [editline]3rd February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Lachz0r;34523859]except this isn't a matter of a few bad apples, it's a matter of a corrupted institution which gives extreme power with a lack of extreme responsibility that TURNS people into bad apples, or isn't stringent enough to weed out the bad apples.[/QUOTE] It's like a rotting orchard.
[QUOTE=Drsalvador;34524485] It's like a rotting orchard.[/QUOTE] Caused by the farmers not paying attention
[QUOTE=Drsalvador;34524485]While you're right about that last bit, British soldiers aren't to blame at all. It's the generals and top brass that are. [editline]3rd February 2012[/editline] It's like a rotting orchard.[/QUOTE] i've never felt that 'following orders' has ever been a worthy excuse for doing awful things. and lol, so much apple talk in threads about police.
If this beating and such took place last April why have they only just started to press charges?
And once again, I lament the fact that it is not mandatory for all police taking any sort of physical action to be utilizing a [URL="http://www.taser.com/products/on-officer-video/taser-axon"]head cam[/URL], despite the fact that they're proven to increase performance. It's only $3k to the man, well within what is normally spent outfitting the average officer in an age of thousand dollar shotguns.
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;34524632]And once again, I lament the fact that it is not mandatory for all police taking any sort of physical action to be utilizing a [URL="http://www.taser.com/products/on-officer-video/taser-axon"]head cam[/URL], despite the fact that they're proven to increase performance.[/QUOTE] Just give them fake ones and tell them it's recording Watch as behavior skyrockets
[QUOTE=Red scout?;34524389]Is it just me or does "Peace officer" sound like something 1984-esque?[/QUOTE] knowledge 1984 doubleplusungood (That's probably really wrong, I'm not great with my newspeak) I should start a running total of how many threads I see like this per year.
[QUOTE=TamTamJam;34523633]Isn't it automatically first degree murder if you kill a cop in america, no matter what?[/QUOTE] Pretty much.
[QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;34523844]They aren't all bad. And it's going to be literally impossible to have a police force with a such a huge population without any bad apples in it. Hell. It's going to be impossible anywhere to have any type of force, either military, police or even medical without having any bad apples. Its sad and terrible, but it's the truth. A lot of people on Facepunch have the problem of thinking is instantly bad because of one person, or one thing.[/QUOTE] Yeah its not like anything could be done to help protect more officers and citizens. Everything is fine, nothing can be improved. Move along citizen. Forgive me for thinking that actually prosecuting criminally corrupt and violent officers would both increase respect and decrease violence against officers, while at the same time protect actual people from officers who have already proven they have no right to be given such powers.
[QUOTE=Mattk50;34525072]Yeah its not like anything could be done to help protect more officers and citizens. Everything is fine, nothing can be improved. Move along citizen. Forgive me for thinking that actually prosecuting criminally corrupt and violent officers would both increase respect and decrease violence against officers, while at the same time protect actual people from officers who have already proven they have no right to be given such powers.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=thisispain;34523862]okay that's fine but let's at least fucking try[/QUOTE] I never said anything about it can't be decreased, I stated that it can't be completely removed. Regardless of what you do. There is going to be a cop out there who is going to do it. There might be less. But the problem will still exist.
[QUOTE=Sir_takeslot;34525183]I never said anything about it can't be decreased, I stated that it can't be completely removed. Regardless of what you do. There is going to be a cop out there who is going to do it. There might be less. But the problem will still exist.[/QUOTE] Put up proof or shut up.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;34523620]the US supreme court ruled that you are allowed to resist unlawful arrest up to and including taking the officer's life[/QUOTE] That law is extremely dated (from 1900) and is no longer the case today as it has been superseded countless times.
All of these cops fucking up and making the public image for cops terrible makes me worried about joining a police department in the near future. I knew being a cop was already going to be a thankless job but with how everything is going I can only imagine.
[QUOTE=Xenocidebot;34525483]Put up proof or shut up.[/QUOTE] Are you really that dense? Look at criminals. People sell drugs, and kill people. And they can get arrested, wounded or even killed. And they still do it. Having the chance of being suspended and thrown in jail might stop come corrupt cops. But not all of them, that is just common sense.
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