A close look at how Oracle installs deceptive software with Java updates
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Does that mean I'm safe?
[QUOTE=Spectre1406;39340115]Does that mean I'm safe?[/QUOTE]
Even if you installed the ask toolbar, you would still be safe. The toolbar itself isn't dangerous or a threat to your computer, it's just really really annoying.
So yes, if you unchecked the box, then you are safe.
Some programs are even worse. Ie. uTorrent. If you uncheck and click next, another little window will open, with shit one usually wouldn't read, because in most programs it should be something along the lines 'the x installer will now install the product, press ok to continue' 'OK'
But nope, it is something along the lines 'you are missing out on fantastic free software. Press OK to install the software anyway' 'OK'
[QUOTE=Van-man;39331887]Time for C++ to shine.
And the Java virtual machine for android needs to die (or at.least be retained for legacy use only).
It's horribly inefficient compared to native code.[/QUOTE]
But it is never ever ever going to happen because it's not only impractical, but it'd break the whole OS philosophy. Android is designed to run on different processor architectures and a VM allows it to do so. Manufacturers just have to port the VM, and eveything is easy. The minute you start dealing with native code, youll be compiling for many different platforms, x86, MIPS, and ARM (not to mention all of ARM's different instruction sets). Yes, the VM isn't as efficient as it should be, but if you leave a platform as open as Android you are going to have to support [U]everything[/U].
[QUOTE=Amiga OS;39328535]The amount of shit I have to remove from peoples computers.
[t]http://www.neowin.net/forum/uploads/monthly_07_2011/post-119000-0-76108100-1311283846.jpg[/t]
I've seen worse than this.[/QUOTE]
Ugh
Fox news.
[QUOTE=lapsus_;39340574]Some programs are even worse. Ie. uTorrent. If you uncheck and click next, another little window will open, with shit one usually wouldn't read, because in most programs it should be something along the lines 'the x installer will now install the product, press ok to continue' 'OK'
But nope, it is something along the lines 'you are missing out on fantastic free software. Press OK to install the software anyway' 'OK'[/QUOTE]
uTorrent has really gone down hill. Is there an actually lightweight replacement currently?
[QUOTE=OogalaBoogal;39340596]uTorrent has really gone down hill. Is there an actually lightweight replacement currently?[/QUOTE]
qBittorrent
[QUOTE=lapsus_;39340574]Some programs are even worse. Ie. uTorrent. If you uncheck and click next, another little window will open, with shit one usually wouldn't read, because in most programs it should be something along the lines 'the x installer will now install the product, press ok to continue' 'OK'
But nope, it is something along the lines 'you are missing out on fantastic free software. Press OK to install the software anyway' 'OK'[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that's gotten me a few times. It all should be illegal, seeing as it's all clearly thinly veiled attempts at deceiving a user into unknowingly installing their product.
[QUOTE=buro;39332963]While I find the inclusion of toolbars annoying and unprofessional no one is forcing you to install it. Unless of course you just press next without reading what the window says.[/QUOTE]
Did you actually bother to read the OP, or any of the other posts in here at all?
I remember once almost installing Norton by some bullshit thing like this
And at that time I really wasent in the mood to reinstall Windows (only way to unfuck your computer from it)
[QUOTE=OogalaBoogal;39340596]uTorrent has really gone down hill. Is there an actually lightweight replacement currently?[/QUOTE]
I like Deluge personally, or you could always roll back to uTorrent 2.0.X, that was the last build before they started bloating the shit out of the program.
Deluge is extremely buggy, is missing a lot of interface options, or just has really poorly designed ones. Best bet is to stick with an old version of utorrent that supports the necessary features if you are running on windows.
$0.02
On topic. Oracle has been steadily pissing on everything that they accquired from sun. I'm really wondering when we are going to see a massive shift away from Java. Oracle is doing everything in it's power to make it terrible.
[QUOTE=OogalaBoogal;39340596]uTorrent has really gone down hill. Is there an actually lightweight replacement currently?[/QUOTE]
Yes, uTorrent 2.something.
[QUOTE=Zyx;39328639]With the recent security flaw in the news, my dad actually called me thinking something was wrong after he updated Java which installed the toolbar.
Also, I find every installer that has auto checked the "I want to install a million browser toolbars" checkbox to be disgusting. Should be illegal.[/QUOTE]
ASK.com
who even fucking uses ASK.com aside from the ignorant and the old.
[QUOTE=OogalaBoogal;39340580]But it is never ever ever going to happen because it's not only impractical, but it'd break the whole OS philosophy. Android is designed to run on different processor architectures and a VM allows it to do so. Manufacturers just have to port the VM, and eveything is easy. The minute you start dealing with native code, youll be compiling for many different platforms, x86, MIPS, and ARM (not to mention all of ARM's different instruction sets). Yes, the VM isn't as efficient as it should be, but if you leave a platform as open as Android you are going to have to support [U]everything[/U].[/QUOTE]
Like you can't make a VM where you use C++ instead of java :rolleyes:
Granted they'd have to come up with a library to interface the code with the VM, but atleast that can also be done much more efficiently.
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