It was just a matter of time: Fans mourn, opponents cheer Barcelona's last bullfight
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[QUOTE=Maximo13;32492585]We have not. We merely lost it in Barcelona. I don't see how it's cruel, as bulls are literally useless apart from being used to inseminate cows.[/QUOTE]
Wow, that logic is shit. Let's just apply that to people while we're at it.
"I don't think that person is very useful, let's torture him slowly, for the enjoyment of others."
[QUOTE=GunFox;32492778]And? You were bred to fight!
So what is it gonna be?
Retiarius loadout? Or maybe that of the Secutor? I would go with the Secutor on account of the armor plating and all, but the net of retiarii is also quite tempting.[/QUOTE]
Actually physically nature has bred us as long distance runners. So he should probably be enslaved to run marathons for entertainment.
[QUOTE=carcarcargo;32493067]Except we need food, we don't need to torture animals[/QUOTE]
So it is okay to slaughter thousands of animals each day for food but if you kill one bull in a bull fight it is a outrage.
They should just subsitute bull fighting with people fighting.
Put two seasoned matadors in the stadium and have them fight to the death. I'm sure peta wont have a problem with that..
[QUOTE=mbreunig91;32493007]Why don't they ban killing cattle at the slaughterhouse while they are at.[/QUOTE]
Probably because it is quite useful and productive, and is pretty humane when done correctly.
Most of the bull would be processed into meat, tallow, leather and bones, with a relatively small waste percentage. The only reason to stop a slaughterhouse is due to barbaric practises - such as not restunning, or following strict Halal / Kosher (which I am against due to the required "animal must be conscious") rules.
Meanwhile, bullfighting is a slow, agonising death for the bull, caused by slowly disabling it's muscles and limbs. The only thing that I can equate it to is a fight in Dwarf Fortress.
Also, I'm against excess consumption of meat and animal products where there is a good alternative. One portion of meat a day is good enough for anyone, whilst still meating dietary requirements.
Finally, this sort of thing was abolished in London in 1839, and the rest if this country in 1911. How can it continue in any modern country?
Fucking hippies.
Go back to tying yourself to trees. The wood chipper needs something challenging to chew on.
[QUOTE=MIPS;32493564]Fucking hippies.
Go back to tying yourself to trees. The wood chipper needs something challenging to chew on.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, fuck humane treatment of animals, if I like stabbing things and watching them die slowly, why shouldn't I get to! Fucking hippies, protecting animals from such a pointlessly cruel treatment!!!!
aren't people seriously overstating the "national heritage", "massive part of spanish culture" thing here?
i've been to the catalan region (including barcelona), where this ban has taken place, multiple times in my life and only once have I noticed any kinda of public display showing a love of bullfighting... and that was just the bullfight on TV quietly in the corner of a bar
some posters seem to be treating this like the national sport has been banned or something
Saw a bullfight in Spain once. Was interesting, however being extremely onesided it was kinda predictable, I guess I just didn't get the appeal of the violence (didn't really feel anything for the bull, but I didn't feel much excitement either).
Same can't be said for a 7 year old kid I had in front of me though, he was screaming "kill it/maim it/slaughter it" the whole time, jumping around and every time there was a spurt of blood he went absolutely batshit. Then when the matador left the arena he threw the severed bull ear to the kid, who held it over his head (still heavily dripping blood, mind you) and screamed like a madman ("Blood for the Blood God!" would have fit perfectly).
[QUOTE=mbreunig91;32493438]So it is okay to slaughter thousands of animals each day for food but if you kill one bull in a bull fight it is a outrage.[/QUOTE]
If I could get the needed things I needed to live without killing animals I would, but sadly I can't so we kind of need it.
[QUOTE=MIPS;32493564]Fucking hippies.
Go back to tying yourself to trees. The wood chipper needs something challenging to chew on.[/QUOTE]
Can't really say everyone who opposes bullfights is a hippie (I agree with throwing hippies in the wood chipper though).
I think people need to realize that if they think this is a "big" part of Spanish culture, they haven't seen or know much about Spain. Sure, it's a major sporting event for the more traditionalists in Spain, but it isn't a game-breaker.
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[QUOTE=RubberFruit;32493779]How is it cruelty to the bull?! If anything it's cruelty to the guy who has to go in there, because he's risking his life. The bull is just having a bit of a laugh.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I'm sure that bull is having one hell of a laugh while it bleeds to death with spikes in the it's back. Also the guy chose to there, no one is making him be there.
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Good riddance
[QUOTE=Tigster;32493827]Are you being serious?
He stabs the bull several times, and the bull leaves dead. I don't see how that's fun and games for the bull.[/QUOTE]
Oh, ok. Didn't know that, sorry
[QUOTE=RubberFruit;32493910]Oh, ok. Didn't know that, sorry[/QUOTE]
No biggie, I'll snip the quote too
[QUOTE=Tigster;32493967]No biggie, I'll snip the quote too[/QUOTE]
Thanks, *hearts*
People always talk about having the balls of a matador:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/xrKva.jpg[/img]
There is some legitimacy to their claim...
Is that a grapefruit? Wait what
To some of the people defending the "culture" of it and how that out weighs the cruelty... Just replace everything that's done to the bull is being done to a giant stupid kid with horns.
It's not smart enough to know exactly what the fuck is happening but it's obviously alive, it must have some type of rudimentary thought, it must know that it's being stabbed repeatedly, slowly drained of it's blood, drugged so it's even more confused, and then made terribly angry and scared, then tossed out into a large area where people are screaming and shouting at you and there's that one fucker with the cape.
Animals supposedly can at least feel some sort of emotion. They can be depressed, angry, scared or any number of things if we're right.
Just because it isn't smart enough or able to say "hey can you guys like stop stabbing me and shit and let me go cuz this isn't fair" doesn't mean we should go ahead and do it anyways.
Looks like some kind of wierd tumour in the salmon tights...
[QUOTE=Lick;32494167]People always talk about having the balls of a matador:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/xrKva.jpg[/img]
There is some legitimacy to their claim...
Is that a grapefruit? Wait what[/QUOTE]
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I hate bullfights so much.
[QUOTE=Lick;32494167]People always talk about having the balls of a matador:
There is some legitimacy to their claim...
Is that a grapefruit? Wait what[/QUOTE]
When I saw that picture in the OP I stared at the guy in the salmon colored outfit for at least 5 minutes before I realized what it was.
[QUOTE=Lick;32494167]People always talk about having the balls of a matador:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/xrKva.jpg[/img]
There is some legitimacy to their claim...
Is that a grapefruit? Wait what[/QUOTE]
You'd think they'd be wearing a cup.
[QUOTE=ExplodingGuy;32494408]You'd think they'd be wearing a cup.[/QUOTE]
I don't think a cup is going to help much from a pointed horn...
how about a fight where the bull doesnt [B]Have[/B] to die
[QUOTE=Lick;32494167]People always talk about having the balls of a matador:
[img]http://i.imgur.com/xrKva.jpg[/img]
There is some legitimacy to their claim...
Is that a grapefruit? Wait what[/QUOTE]
God damn it I was going to point that out.
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