• "Tragedy on the Hudson" Helicopter/Plane collide in NYC. Nine feared dead.
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[QUOTE=FunnyBunny;16566072]How the fuck do you not notice you're about to hit a helicopter?[/QUOTE] The helicopter pilot might have been suicidal.
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;16568805] Standard protocol is for both aircraft to turn to the right if they're in danger of a head on collision, but as with any unexpected occurrence during flight you must be flexible. My instructor was telling me a story of how he was flying a few years ago when a midair collision almost happened between him and another Cessna, because they had been focused on the runway and were flying opposite traffic patterns; one for the East-West runway, the other for the West-East runway. It's an uncontrolled airport, meaning there's no air traffic controller and that radio announcements aren't enforced. The other pilot had been operating without announcing his position, and my CFI couldn't see him against the background. They spotted each other at the last minute and both turned left, missing each other narrowly. If either one of them had turned right, as they were supposed to, then they would've collided.[/QUOTE] I don't care what direction you go just get the fuck out of the way...and I'm sure NY has a air traffic controller
The sky is a big place, how does this happen!?
:( Things like this make me sad panda. I'm next to the Hudson btw.
[QUOTE=InsanePyro;16576422]I don't care what direction you go just get the fuck out of the way...and I'm sure NY has a air traffic controller[/QUOTE] Around a major airport sure, but the only Class B airspace is controlled, and that only encompasses airspace from the ground up in the areas immediately surrounding a major airport. Further out from that, the area that Class B airspace encompasses raises. For instance, the airport proper may have controlled airspace up to 10,000 feet, but as you get further away from the airport that level changes. Controlled airspace may have been from between 5000 to 10000 feet, and most small aircraft fly below that altitude, so the airspace was uncontrolled. I'm assuming.
A small speck on the horizon can easily be ignored or not seen, and if you're flying towards it, you'll be right behind it within seconds.
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And to think that I was in New York and flew on one of those helicopters and saw the massive air traffic just one month ago...
[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;16577559]Around a major airport sure, but the only Class B airspace is controlled, and that only encompasses airspace from the ground up in the areas immediately surrounding a major airport. Further out from that, the area that Class B airspace encompasses raises. For instance, the airport proper may have controlled airspace up to 10,000 feet, but as you get further away from the airport that level changes. Controlled airspace may have been from between 5000 to 10000 feet, and most small aircraft fly below that altitude, so the airspace was uncontrolled. I'm assuming.[/QUOTE] This. The aircraft were flying around 800ft, well into uncontrolled airspace.
[QUOTE=Resistance777;16575537]This kinda reminds of that airbus plane that ditched in the hudson because of a bird strike, everyone survived though @ TOPIC How could the pilot not notice a chopper coming right at him?[/QUOTE] The chooper could easily blend into the backdrop with all the buldings that populate around the Hudson. When moving at a high rate of speed you could be right up on top of it without seeing it.
9 people and people are saying tragedy. Whatever happened to 9/11?
[QUOTE=SuperRockGiant;16579304]9 people and people are saying tragedy. Whatever happened to 9/11?[/QUOTE] DO we really want to start this? 9/11 was a huge tragedy but so is this. A larger number of people do not have to die for it to be a tragedy.
My very good friend, Doug Altman, was one of the three on the small plane. Very tragic how this happens.
[QUOTE=Robbazking;16586294]Here in sweden murder will at best give 12years :o[/QUOTE] what does that have to do with this topic? obviously this collision was an accident.
Typical american pig behavior
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