Oddworld Dev said "Fuck off" To EA buyout, EA replies by saying he has a mental illness and Tourette
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[QUOTE=darkrei9n;37883247]You're bringing one of the most unique AAA companies into an argument. One that is essentially more like a retail store than a publisher or developer?[/QUOTE]
He has a point. Valve creating steam was a stroke of genius, and as a result they have a steady income stream that allows them to take a chance on a new IP, release something that isn't necessarily a huge AAA title, and avoid rushing games out the door unfinished. EA is attempting to follow the leader with Origin, and it's made all the more obvious by the way they say steam sales cheapen IPs before doing a sale of their own.
[QUOTE=Complete Cunt;37883166]Damn, he has personal experience, I just can't take him seriously anymore.
You are one internet warped little child.[/QUOTE]
I don't know man but you are actively convincing everyone one here that EA is the worst enemy to mankind, then being over-zealous and narrow minded. Then when someone counters your arguments you talk like EA shot down your family. I do not get it, you are dramatizing everything.
[QUOTE=Complete Cunt;37883273]Yep, Valve did it right, EA does it wrong, what makes it worse is that EA being the creative geniuses they are decided to copy Valve's mojo with origin and even fucked that up.[/QUOTE]
Nothing wrong with creating their own platform for their games and whats wrong with Origin?
[QUOTE=junker|154;37883279]I don't know man but you are actively convincing everyone one here that EA is the worst enemy to mankind, then being over-zealous and narrow minded. Then when someone counters your arguments you talk like EA shot down your family. I do not get it, you are dramatizing everything.[/QUOTE]
It is either hyperbole or literal statement of fact. I'm guessing you can't tell the difference between the two which is exactly what makes the latter so effective to those who can.
I AM making EA look like the devil to drive home the point that they are a pretty crappy business that needs to fuck off.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;37883253]Sorry, I like Battlefield too much.[/QUOTE]
Battlefield is a welcome alternative to CoD. I'm a bit torn over EA because I certainly do enjoy some of their games, but I find their business practices to be horrible. Nothing undermines gamers trying to gain credibility as mature people like "your mom will hate this game" ad campaigns for M rated games and fake protests against games they release to gain publicity. They certainly need to stop rushing their RPG titles like they did with DA2 and ME3, especially if they rush the game and then release cut content as day 1 DLC.
[QUOTE=dogmachines;37883310]They certainly need to stop rushing their RPG titles like they did with DA2 and ME3[/QUOTE]
Because it's totally 100% EAs fault Bioware made a crappy game/ending.
[QUOTE=dogmachines;37883277]He has a point. Valve creating steam was a stroke of genius, and as a result they have a steady income stream that allows them to take a chance on a new IP, release something that isn't necessarily a huge AAA title, and avoid rushing games out the door unfinished. EA is attempting to follow the leader with Origin, and it's made all the more obvious by the way they say steam sales cheapen IPs before doing a sale of their own.[/QUOTE]
Except Valve is unique in that they are the only ones able to do this. They can effectively spend an unlimited amount of time on a single game while they just keep selling other people's games without actually financing the developers to make the game in the first place. Pretty much every publisher in the world except Valve has to do this. So comparing a company that essentially can do nothing for the next thirty years to a company who can take one bad step and go bankrupt isn't exactly a fair comparison now is it?
[QUOTE=SweFox*;37883297]Nothing wrong with creating their own platform for their games and whats wrong with Origin?[/QUOTE]
Well it sucks ass compared to steam, even with valve already showing them the way they had that PR screwup where they took all their games back off steam, than the other one where they said sales 'cheapen the IP' and just look at personal tales from the horror that is origin support.
EA basically copied Valve like an industrial automaton copying a dancer, all the same motions with none of the original grace and meaning. A hollow money grab, an attempt to follow suit.
[QUOTE=SweFox*;37883323]Because it's totally 100% EAs fault Bioware made a crappy ending.[/QUOTE]
This isn't about the ending. The game was rushed out in 2 years, leading to a general lack of polish and TONS of cut content that led to a lackluster game.
[QUOTE=dogmachines;37883310]Battlefield is a welcome alternative to CoD. I'm a bit torn over EA because I certainly do enjoy some of their games, but I find their business practices to be horrible. Nothing undermines gamers trying to gain credibility as mature people like "your mom will hate this game" ad campaigns for M rated games and fake protests against games they release to gain publicity. They certainly need to stop rushing their RPG titles like they did with DA2 and ME3, especially if they rush the game and then release cut content as day 1 DLC.[/QUOTE]
To be fair some Bioware duder specifically said they made the ME3 ending bad on purpose to generate conversation and debate about it. Though it also could have been an attempt to salvage the trainwreck of that ending. But I don't think EA went into their offices and demanded it.
[editline]2nd October 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=dogmachines;37883333]This isn't about the ending. The game was rushed out in 2 years, leading to a general lack of polish and TONS of cut content that led to a lackluster game.[/QUOTE]
I liked ME3 way more than ME2. Looking back ME2 seemed kind of pointless.
[QUOTE=Complete Cunt;37883330]Well it sucks ass compared to steam[/QUOTE]
Not really, it's place for your games, you download and play. I haven't had any issues with it. You plainly just download the game you bought and play.
[QUOTE=darkrei9n;37883328]Except Valve is unique in that they are the only ones able to do this. They can effectively spend an unlimited amount of time on a single game while they just keep selling other people's games without actually financing the developers to make the game in the first place. Pretty much every publisher in the world except Valve has to do this. So comparing a company that essentially can do nothing for the next thirty years to a company who can take one bad step and go bankrupt isn't exactly a fair comparison now is it?[/QUOTE]
My point was that Valve is the only one that can do it because they adapted their business properly. Valve didn't have steam as soon as they came into existence, they pioneered an idea and are now laughing all the way to the bank.
[QUOTE=darkrei9n;37883328]Except Valve is unique in that t[B]hey are the only ones able to do this. [/B]They can effectively spend an unlimited amount of time on a single game while they just keep selling other people's games without actually financing the developers to make the game in the first place. Pretty much every publisher in the world except Valve has to do this. So comparing a company that essentially can do nothing for the next thirty years to a company who can take one bad step and go bankrupt isn't exactly a fair comparison now is it?[/QUOTE]
Wait so because they took a gamble on a mode of business and made mad bank and EA sticks rigidly to its outmoded ways makes EA somehow different?
Valve used to be game devs remember? What I'm saying is that if EA NEEDS to modify their business practices to survive and gain back their lost money and status, that's what I've been repeatedly saying.
[editline]2nd October 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=SweFox*;37883349]Not really, it's place for your games, you download and play. I haven't had any issues with it. You plainly just download the game you bought and play.[/QUOTE]
Cherry picked again, do you even read? what am I saying, of course you don't otherwise you would know already know about EA and not have to ask these questions.
[QUOTE=Complete Cunt;37883356]Cherry picked again, do you even read?[/QUOTE]
You said it sucked compared to Steam, I said it's just a platform for their games. What is there to suck with?
What didn't you like about Origin?
[QUOTE=SweFox*;37883388]You said it sucked compared to Steam, I said it's just a platform for their games. What is there to suck with?[/QUOTE]
The library is small compared to Steam, they make new releases origin exclusive to try to force people to use it, auto-update seems to baffle them, battlelog and origin seem to have issues getting along despite being made to work together, etc.
[editline]2nd October 2012[/editline]
Oh and the way they insult steam over summer sales then have a steam-style sale of their own.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;37883394]What didn't you like about Origin?[/QUOTE]
Let's see, Crappy support, EA (that's a given) Steam did it better and has a better selection of games, I'm predisposed to liking Valve due to their previous work, I have already used steam so I'm accustomed to it and all my friends are on there, and frankly I hate all the Origin exclusives anyway and since they're the only reason to ever download that piece of malware I'd say I'm pretty well in the right.
[QUOTE=dogmachines;37883405]The library is small compared to Steam, they make new releases origin exclusive to try to force people to use it, auto-update seems to baffle them, battlelog and origin seem to have issues getting along despite being made to work together, etc.[/QUOTE]
So the client sucks because they don't have as much games? Ok.
I see nothing wrong with that, if it's published by EA, why wouldn't it be on Origin.
What kind of problems? I've never had any issues with BL. I just launch it from the bookmark.
[QUOTE=dogmachines;37883405]Oh and the way they insult steam over summer sales then have a steam-style sale of their own.[/QUOTE]
Yes you've mentioned this a couple times now, it doesn't make Origin suck however.
[QUOTE=Complete Cunt;37883425]Steam did it better and has a better selection of games. I'm accustomed to it and all my friends are on there, and frankly I hate all the Origin exclusives anyway and since they're the only reason to ever download that piece of malware I'd say I'm pretty well in the right.[/QUOTE]
Less games doesn't make Origin suck.
You can use Steam overlay on Origin games.
Origin doesn't suck because you hate it.
It's not malware.
I may sound like an anti-EA train bandwagon or w/e the fuck but his freeness in what he says alone makes me want to support him. We need more people like him (maybe less cursing, it IS kinda unprofessional)
I swear there is some EA spokespeople up in here, nobody needs to be battered over the head this much to get the point.
[editline]2nd October 2012[/editline]
[QUOTE=SweFox*;37883430]Yes you've mentioned this a couple times now, it doesn't make Origin suck however.[/QUOTE]
Whoa what, no, it does.
If a company can't be trusted to do right by their consumers, if they flip flop back and forth worse than Romney and if they copy cat other more successful businesses unsuccessfully than it ALL reflects on their products and services, That is a legit gripe.
[QUOTE=SweFox*;37883430]So the client sucks because they don't have as much games? Ok.
I see nothing wrong with that, if it's published by EA, why wouldn't it be on Origin.
What kind of problems? I've never had any issues with BL. I just launch it from the bookmark.[/QUOTE]
Any time I want to play BF3, I have to log out of origin and log back in or else it simply doesn't launch the game. If a client doesn't have a decent game library, what reason is there to use it? And why pull your games from other clients? You might get a few more bucks out of it, but it doesn't exactly earn you customer loyalty when fans of the games you publish feel like all you care about is how many dollars you can get out of them.
[QUOTE=SweFox*;37883430]Origin doesn't suck because all those reasons you gave don't exist.[/QUOTE]
now I'm a cherry picker. cutting straight to the gist of your post.
What's with the dumbs? I LEARNED IT FROM YOU DAD!
[QUOTE=Eeshton;37883438]I may sound like an anti-EA train bandwagon or w/e the fuck but his freeness in what he says alone makes me want to support him. We need more people like him (maybe less cursing, it IS kinda unprofessional)[/QUOTE]
Agreed. Even if he really did refuse an acquisition attempt because he doesn't want to be another studio killed by EA, he definitely seems to be riding it as far as he can.
I didn't like strangers wrath:v:
I'd still sacrifice a newborn lamb to see another oddworld game though.
I'm sorry but there are some [B]dumb [/B]people in this thread
[QUOTE=JerryK;37880537]because EA is totally a sinking ship[/QUOTE]
your right
its a sinking rock
[QUOTE=ironman17;37880552]Oh YEAH, you tell them Mr Lanning! Don't let those necropolitans ruin your IP! *woo* *praise*[/QUOTE]
are you trying to sound smart
[QUOTE=Complete Cunt;37882721]EA ok, listen read this, repeat it to yourself like a mantra ok, I need you to focus. EA ok are you listening, I'll put it in bold so you can't miss it, ok.
[B]EA DOSN'T MAKE GAMES[/B][/QUOTE]
Shit poster right here.
[QUOTE=Complete Cunt;37882980]What are you a white knight for EA, you don't know shit about them except their brand is on the box of your samey tactical shooter.[/QUOTE]
This guy sure knows everything!!! lol! Bright future ahead of this guy in FP!
[QUOTE=J!NX;37883715]I'm sorry but there are some [B]dumb [/B]people in this thread
your right
its a sinking rock
are you trying to sound smart
Shit poster right here.
This guy sure knows everything!!! lol! Bright future ahead of this guy in FP![/QUOTE]
Can't tell if ironic shitposting or for real.
Is it irony if your post is shitty and you're pointing out posts you think are shitty?
[QUOTE=Complete Cunt;37883730]Can't tell if ironic shitposting or for real.
Is it irony if your post is shitty and you're pointing out posts you think are shitty?[/QUOTE]
I'm pointing out posts that are made by people who know nothing about EA and just kind of act as if they do.
You seem to do that 50x worse than the first two.
Seriously dude did EA come to your house, kick down your door, rape and murder your family right before your eyes?
I know they're horrible, I agree, they're complete cunts, who take games as a need not a luxury, and anyone who says otherwise is being silly... but... they aren't parasites, just stupid, Mr. Ryan.
[QUOTE=J!NX;37883807]I'm pointing out posts that are made by people who know nothing about EA and just kind of act as if they do.
You seem to do that 50x worse than the first two.
Seriously dude did EA come to your house, kick down your door, rape and murder your family right before your eyes?
I know they're horrible, I agree, they're complete cunts, who take games as a need not a luxury, and anyone who says otherwise is being silly... but... they aren't parasites, just stupid, Mr. Ryan.[/QUOTE]
What the fuck are you even saying.
As much as I'd love to stay and read the text you make when you smash your helmet on your droolsoaked keyboard I have more important shit to do than argue with a guy with ten thousand something posts on this forum, things like masturbation and sleep.
So I guess you're the ~winner~
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