I owned 3 cars so far, Opel Corsa, BMW 3 series and Golf (current) and all are manual.
I've been driving only for 4 years but I am honestly a bit tired of manual.
Sometimes I just want to relax and enjoy the drive, sometimes when driving at night I love switching gears and flooring it and feeling the car blast off.
I am planning to buy new car soon and I might go for semi automatic or fully automatic, definetely not fully manual.
So really I don't mind this change.
jesus you had 3 cars in 4 years?
ive had the same car for 7 and i dont plan to get a new one ever
[QUOTE=POLOPOZOZO;48145624]jesus you had 3 cars in 4 years?
ive had the same car for 7 and i dont plan to get a new one ever[/QUOTE]
I've had 7 cars in the past 5 years. difference is I still own most of them
Enthusiasts don't buy new bmws anyway, now they need to stop existing over all. Nothing but rich mans commuters now.
BMW's a pretty bad anyway. Audi are a bit more expensive, but they are better built. Not to mention they don't look anywhere near as dull.
[QUOTE=Memobot;48148771]BMW's a pretty bad anyway. Audi are a bit more expensive, but they are better built. Not to mention they don't look anywhere near as dull.[/QUOTE]
Audi still makes a true manual and provides it as an option on most of their cars.
I like both automatic and manual transmission. I feel as if not all cars are suited to an auto and vice versa. For example, my Mercedes is more of a cruiser and I like it with the auto box it has. It's cool to cruise around in. But my friend's 1980s BMW 3-series has a manual and I have to say that it's a blast around twisty roads and for canyon carving or track days. Basically there are some styles of cars that would suck with a manual tranny, like the old 70s land yachts and big Mercedes and BMW's where you just wanna waft about in ultimate luxury and be isolated from the world outside. Manual transmission is better suited to performance cars where the customer wants to be involved in the feel of the machine. BMW will be making a big mistake if they decide to stop developing manual transmissions. Yes semi-auto DCT gearboxes now give you the control of a manual with the added convenience of an auto, and yes the paddle-shifters do make you feel like a Formula 1 driver from time to time, but some people do still yearn for the ability to row their own gears and be connected to their cars.
[QUOTE=Tmaxx;48148624]Enthusiasts don't buy new bmws anyway, now they need to stop existing over all. Nothing but rich mans commuters now.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, but the new cars of today are the old cars of the future. You don't see too many people driving around in their Models Ts nowadays do you?
To be honest I didn't even know new M models even came with manual transmission. I thought it was all double-clutch by now.
I was never a BMW person anyway. I've always thought they're too much of a businessman's car. Not my style at all.
[QUOTE=*Freezorg*;48149784]To be honest I didn't even know new M models even came with manual transmission. I thought it was all double-clutch by now.
I was never a BMW person anyway. I've always thought they're too much of a businessman's car. Not my style at all.[/QUOTE]
This is going to upset a lot of BMW fans, but BMW has basically been overtaken by the corporate world. While the M series is supposed to be a "racecar you can drive every day" (that's actually on the BMW M3's page), but the only thing that applies to that any more is the suspension/handling. The M series has traded performance for luxury to appease the business people who make enough money to buy it. Part of that luxury is removing that third pedal.
36% of Mustangs sold have manual transmissions. Why? Because it's a sports car that's in the price range of auto enthusiasts. You will see the same higher than usual amount of manuals being sold with Camaros and Challengers as well. If the M series was half the price of what it is now, the amount of M series cars sold with manual transmissions would be higher as well, due to the type of car it is.
It's a shame they are trading in driving experience for luxury, but when the only people who can afford it care more about the luxury aspect, it's bound to happen.
the 128i seemed like a good effort by BMW to make a driver's car, kind of regret not getting one of the older ones and getting an is300 instead. BMW doesn't even offer that series in the US anymore, guess people in the US like big cars.
[QUOTE=Lamar;48151401]the 128i seemed like a good effort by BMW to make a driver's car, kind of regret not getting one of the older ones and getting an is300 instead. BMW doesn't even offer that series in the US anymore, guess people in the US like big cars.[/QUOTE]
they still do, it's just called a 2 series because of something something coupes have to have even numbers something.
[QUOTE=Pretiacruento;48139921]
Smiles per gallon > miles per gallon, every time.
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*If you're rich.
For a lot of people, a car is a means to an end. It needs to get them from point a to point b quickly, safely, and efficiently and accomplish nothing else. And no, having more fun in my car is not worth being unable to pay medical or food bills.
[QUOTE=Jaehead;48152001]they still do, it's just called a 2 series because of something something coupes have to have even numbers something.[/QUOTE]
The 2 series is a little longer than the 1 series, though that makes it look nicer. The 1 series doesn't have the best proportions
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;48152047]*If you're rich.
For a lot of people, a car is a means to an end. It needs to get them from point a to point b quickly, safely, and efficiently and accomplish nothing else. And no, having more fun in my car is not worth being unable to pay medical or food bills.[/QUOTE]
This is why cheap cars are so much fun.
Don't forget there is also whole line of BMW's which were converted to M package by their retarded owners :v:
I am talking about those people who stick M badge on the left side of their cars (even though it should be on the Right, and even then it doesn't give you M package by just sticking badge)
The only BMW's I would consider buying is:
Either E92 325i or 335i or F30 325i or 335i with M sport package (not M3).
4 Series.
E46 M3 GTR (If it was for sale and didn't cost like a brand new Porche, afaik only 10 of them were built and each was sold for 250k or 300k? )
I liked the E46 318i I had, but well it was kinda underpowered (probably because it was only 1.9l), but even if I was to get bigger engine E46, I wouldn't want it, it just lacks electronics and efficiency (which was one of main reasons why I sold it, as student I couldnt' afford to use it for constant driving with no purpose)
We should have a manual with clutch and a auto trans,best of two worlds :D
[QUOTE=dafour;48155130]We should have a manual with clutch and a auto trans,best of two worlds :D[/QUOTE]
What?
Everyone I know that has a Manual and past their 20s has sold their car and bought an Auto. The few that kept their manual act like teenagers.
I see this argument as the same argument between all the truck-drivers I talk to, the older guys "Hate that electronic shit" and the young guys "Hate that old mechanical shit". Same argument as "Carburetors" over "Direct Injection", "Wire Throttles" or "Electronic Throttles". It all ends the same way, diehards keep their old stuff and argue why its better, while everyone else moves on to the better, cheaper, more efficient things.
Its all going to move towards "the less human input the better".
[QUOTE=Apache249;48155232]What?[/QUOTE]
I think he/she/it means have a car with a normal manual transmission, pedals, gearstick etc. But you can press a button and it will shift automatically.
[QUOTE=thedekoykid;48162483]Everyone I know that has a Manual and past their 20s has sold their car and bought an Auto. The few that kept their manual act like teenagers.
I see this argument as the same argument between all the truck-drivers I talk to, the older guys "Hate that electronic shit" and the young guys "Hate that old mechanical shit". Same argument as "Carburetors" over "Direct Injection", "Wire Throttles" or "Electronic Throttles". It all ends the same way, diehards keep their old stuff and argue why its better, while everyone else moves on to the better, cheaper, more efficient things.[/QUOTE]
Holy fuck this is one of the most stuck up, high-horse, holier-than-thou posts I've seen in a good while. It's not very mature. You sound like an idiot.
The vast majority of adults in Europe "act like a teenager" then, according to your logic. But nah, not over there in Australia, everyone's all mature and grown up. Why? [I]Because they choose the superior Automatic transmission over the immature Manual[/I]
You're the one who sounds like an angsty teenager who needs to grow up.
[QUOTE=CoilingTesla;48152190]This is why cheap cars are so much fun.[/QUOTE]
Buying a cheap (used) car is generally a case of being penny-wise but pound-foolish. Cheap cars are only fun if you can pay to keep them running and by that point they aren't cheap anymore.
[QUOTE=Zeke129;48165218]Buying a cheap (used) car is generally a case of being penny-wise but pound-foolish. Cheap cars are only fun if you can pay to keep them running and by that point they aren't cheap anymore.[/QUOTE]
I don't know man, some cheap cars were actually made well enough to last. You just have to know where and what to look for. My little Hyundai takes a beating day after day and still keeps going. Worst thing that's wrong with it is the transmission deciding that I don't need 4th or 2nd and locking in 3rd.
If you can still find an 80's Honda CR-X, they last forever and get great gas mileage. Too bad most are riced to death or cost $2500 more than they did a few years ago. You used to be able to find a reliable used car for less than $1,000, but good luck with that after Cash for Clunkers.
My next car will be a used piece of shite, and I'm okay with that.
[QUOTE=Leestons;48162721]I think he/she/it means have a car with a normal manual transmission, pedals, gearstick etc. But you can press a button and it will shift automatically.[/QUOTE]
It
Yeah what he said,best of both worlds,would be too expensive and heavy.
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