[QUOTE=zombiefreak;23268561]Bailing out companies is a stupid idea in every way. A bigger and more successful company will buy out the failing one.
GM, and other assorted banks that got bailouts, would be bought out eventually.[/QUOTE]
but then what would happen to normal people and their jobs?
[QUOTE=zombiefreak;23268526]Nor does the government.
We can't become dependent on the government.[/QUOTE]
you're completely dependent on the government, btw.
[QUOTE=JDK721;23268586]so just let the companies fail and have tens of thousands of jobs gone forever?
and I'd like a source on your statement[/QUOTE]
It's called free market economics. Look what happened to that one airline company (I'll think of the name), Sprint, ect.
[QUOTE=zombiefreak;23268590]instead of raising taxes, why don't we just cut spending?[/QUOTE]
yes let's cut defense spending
[QUOTE=Habsburg;23268593]but then what would happen to normal people and their jobs?[/QUOTE]
fuck you got mine
[QUOTE=zombiefreak;23268579]Terrorists will be terrorists.[/QUOTE]
to be honest, America had it coming to them
9/11 was retaliation for all the shit the US and Israel has done
[QUOTE=Chippay;23268607]fuck you got mine[/QUOTE]
I said it first :smug:
[QUOTE=zombiefreak;23268579]Terrorists will be terrorists.[/QUOTE]
So just let them prance about blowing shit up?
Yeah so Northern Ireland has no place with the rest of Ireland?
Chechens deserve to be scapegoated and have their homes destroyed?
[QUOTE=zombiefreak;23268590]instead of raising taxes, why don't we just cut spending?[/QUOTE]
Raising taxes on the extremely rich and cutting spending would allow for a tax cut for the middle and lower class, and if not that then it would help keep the deficit down.
[QUOTE=zombiefreak;23268603]It's called free market economics.[/QUOTE]
yes, let's just let corporations do whatever they want. let's deregulate them. it will really help.
oh wait
[QUOTE=JDK721;23268613]I said it first :smug:[/QUOTE]
:bravo:
[QUOTE=zombiefreak;23268590]instead of raising taxes, why don't we just cut spending?[/QUOTE]
Because to even slow the growth rate of the defense budget is political suicide. All we have to cut that won't result in unanimous hatred is fractions of fractions of a percent of the budget.
[QUOTE=JDK721;23268608]to be honest, American had it coming to them
9/11 was retaliation for all the shit the US and Israel has done[/QUOTE]
I guess that's true. But who cares if the Luxembourg hates us?
As I said, until it starts effecting treaties, it doesn't matter much.
[QUOTE=JDK721;23268608]to be honest, American had it coming to them
9/11 was retaliation for all the shit the US and Israel has done[/QUOTE]
Yes because the average American citizen was the one who committed any wrongs against Islam. Don't even try to justify the murder of thousands of civilians.
[QUOTE=Mexican;23268633]Because to even slow the growth rate of the defense budget is political suicide. All we have to cut that won't result in unanimous hatred is fractions of fractions of a percent of the budget.[/QUOTE]
lol when did i say cut defense budget?
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[QUOTE=JDK721;23268626]yes, let's just let corporations do whatever they want. let's deregulate them. it will really help.
oh wait[/QUOTE]
Regulation caused the housing market to burst.
Texas' market didn't burst at all.
[QUOTE=dogmachines;23268651]Yes because the average American citizen was the one who committed any wrongs against Islam. Don't even try to justify the murder of thousands of civilians.[/QUOTE]
The American government was to blame, and the best way to get at a government is to get at it's people.
[QUOTE=JDK721;23268626]yes, let's just let corporations do whatever they want. let's deregulate them. it will really help.
oh wait[/QUOTE]
You know even under Bush, with all the various incentives and taxes on various goods, the US economy is not a true free market economy.
[QUOTE=zombiefreak;23268653]lol when did i say cut defense budget?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=zombiefreak;23268612]Cut optional spending too.[/QUOTE]
keyword: too
[QUOTE=zombiefreak;23268612]Cut optional spending too.[/QUOTE]
Like what?
don't be so vague
[QUOTE=dogmachines;23268623]Raising taxes on the extremely rich and cutting spending would allow for a tax cut for the middle and lower class, and if not that then it would help keep the deficit down.[/QUOTE]
We don't even need to raise taxes on the rich. If we stick to just what is constitutional, the government won't need any money.
[QUOTE=zombiefreak;23268653]
Regulation caused the housing market to burst.
Texas' market didn't burst at all.[/QUOTE]
Of all the things people want, housing is something everyone needs.
Where they want it is the only variable.
[QUOTE=zombiefreak;23268653]Regulation caused the housing market to burst.[/QUOTE]
source
[QUOTE=Wayword;23268672]The American government was to blame, and the best way to get at a government is to get at it's people.[/QUOTE]
Kill the people who did it, not the people who were uninvolved with the bloody thing.
Civilians don't don't deserve to die unless if they hurt others.
[QUOTE=zombiefreak;23268653]lol when did i say cut defense budget?[/QUOTE]
It's the one we're going to have to cut to really make an impact, along with medicare and medicaid which would cause a shitload more trouble than cutting defense.
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defense_budget#NATO_countries.27_largest_military_budgets[/url]
Read that then tell me we can't afford to cut a little.
[QUOTE=zombiefreak;23268653]
Regulation caused the housing market to burst.
Texas' market didn't burst at all.[/QUOTE]
it also creates food regulations
i think we can all agree that food would be cheaper, and tastier without any government intervention about nonsense like 'health standards' too
[QUOTE=zombiefreak;23268653]
Regulation caused the housing market to burst.
Texas' market didn't burst at all.[/QUOTE]
Sub Prime mortgages made it burst
[QUOTE=zombiefreak;23268694]Kill the people who did it, not the people who were uninvolved with the bloody thing.
Civilians don't don't deserve to die unless if they hurt others.[/QUOTE]
I agree, but how are you going to kill officials effectively?
Also last time I checked they did try to destroy the white house, and they did manage to hit the pentagon.
The only one people seem to remember is the twin towers.
[QUOTE=dogmachines;23268651]Yes because the average American citizen was the one who committed any wrongs against Islam.[/QUOTE]
where did I say that?
[QUOTE=dogmachines;23268651]Islam.[/QUOTE]
9/11 had nothing to do with Islam
[QUOTE=dogmachines;23268651]Don't even try to justify the murder of thousands of civilians.[/QUOTE]
uh, I never tried to justify it
[QUOTE=JDK721;23268716]
9/11 had nothing to do with Islam
[/QUOTE]
Not entirely true and you know that.
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