Apple was wrong, you significantly degrade you signal by touching iPhone's lower left side - Polidicks

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;23326030]Just like with the iPad having other predeccesors more powerful and cheaper before the iPad, there were many longer lasting, bigger sized MP3's before the iPod.[/QUOTE] but that's the thing, there were not i remember vividly back in 2001 that the size of it and the ease of use were groundbreaking

What the fuck? The Ipod got popular because it does everything it was made to do...PLAY MUSIC. Oh and because it looks good, but y'know

[QUOTE=hypno-toad;23326036][U]Not when a fad is involved. The Ipod was an OK MP3 player that got popular because it was slick looking and had good commericals. [/QUOTE] the apple ad campaigns came after the ipod from 2001 the whole thing behind the ads were that it became "iconic" so to speak

I thought everybody knew the iPhone 4 had signal problems, and they just bought it because in their minds its a small fault in a good phone.

[QUOTE=thisispain;23326054]but that's the thing, there were not i remember vividly back in 2001 that the size of it and the ease of use were groundbreaking[/QUOTE] Ease of use is probably what made them the best at the time, but now? The only iPod still worth it is the iPod touch series, the rest of them are outdated and outclassed by better things you can get if you look a little harder.

[QUOTE=thisispain;23326034]right it's a dumb decision when someone decides they want something and gets it in your opinion, [B]settling for less than what they want[/B] is a better decision[/QUOTE] so how is buying a different laptop with all the functionality of the Macbook for a lower price "settling for less than what they want" there's a six hundred pound price difference for fuck's sake they ARE stupid

[QUOTE=Turnips5;23326084]so how is buying a different laptop with all the functionality of the Macbook for a lower price "settling for less than what they want" there's a six hundred pound price difference for fuck's sake they ARE stupid[/QUOTE] because buying a different laptop means not getting Mac OSX unless you go for a lower-line one

And yet people still buy any Ipod because they instinctively think they are the best, regardless of better alternatives.

[QUOTE=HumanAbyss;23326081]Ease of use is probably what made them the best at the time, but now? The only iPod still worth it is the iPod touch series, the rest of them are outdated and outclassed by better things you can get if you look a little harder.[/QUOTE] yeah so the only reason we brought up the ipod was because i said that in the electronic world the best usually becomes the most famous and not the other way around [editline]03:41AM[/editline] [QUOTE=hypno-toad;23326098]And yet people still buy any Ipod because they instinctively think they are the best, regardless of better alternatives.[/QUOTE] but you don't know that, that's my fucking point it's just jumping to a stereotype: "ah, if my friend does that, everybody does".

[QUOTE=thisispain;23326095]because buying a different laptop means not getting Mac OSX unless you go for a lower-line one[/QUOTE] okay, fair point. what does OSX do that Windows 7 can't? or what does it do better? or what does it make easier? just asking, from what I've seen OSX looks like it has pretty much the same functionality as windows

[quote]but you don't know that, that's my fucking point it's just jumping to a stereotype: "ah, if my friend does that, everybody does". [/quote] Have you ever fucking been to highschool? Everybody and their dog is walking around with an Ipod. It's actually a rare sight to see another form of MP3 player.

[QUOTE=Turnips5;23326113]okay, fair point. what does OSX do that Windows 7 can't? or what does it do better? or what does it make easier? just asking, from what I've seen OSX looks like it has pretty much the same functionality as windows[/QUOTE] i don't fucking know dude ask someone who prefers OSX i'm saying don't just judge random people because they prefer a different operating, that's just stupid i don't even know why i'm posting about this, it's not like any of you are going to change your minds [editline]03:43AM[/editline] [QUOTE=hypno-toad;23326123]Have you ever fucking been to highschool? Everybody and their dog is walking around with an Ipod.[/QUOTE] it's pretty obvious at this point that you hate the ipod purely because it's popular there's nothing wrong with that, but don't pretend it's more than that [editline]03:45AM[/editline] ah fuck it

It got even worse

[QUOTE=thisispain;23326128]i don't fucking know dude ask someone who prefers OSX i'm saying don't just judge random people because they prefer a different operating, that's just stupid[/QUOTE] I don't judge people because they prefer a different operating system, I judge people because they willingly pay [B]six hundred fucking pounds[/B] more for what is essentially an alternative operating system that pretty much does the same things every other one in existence does, but flashier let me just clarify - if you're rich and stupid then you're obviously going to buy a Macbook, because you can afford to throw money around [quote]i don't even know why i'm posting about this, it's not like any of you are going to change your minds[/quote]no shit

[quote]it's pretty obvious at this point that you hate the ipod purely because it's popular there's nothing wrong with that, but don't pretend it's more than that [/quote]You're an arrogant bastard. If I'm allowed to make my own bullshit observation, you just like the buy the thing you think is best regardless of whether you can get on without it. I'd put money on this being why you payed for a Gold Account back in the day, so you can feel more special than other people. Every person I've seen who owns an Iphone doesn't particularly need one, and has only bought one because it's a cool gadget, I don't think you're any different, were you living in a cave and lighting fires with flint before you got your Iphone? I'm going to go out on a limb and imagine that you actually waste more time than you save with your Iphone. I'm not saying people shoudln't buy Iphones, but I really don't see why you try so elegantly to defend your purchases. If I recall correctly, I only started posting here because you said something nonsensical about why you bought the Iphone, or said something dumb or arrogant in general. [quote]"hello i'm an angsty teen and i think people are stupid for buying a cell phone"[/quote]yeah [editline]10:53AM[/editline] Though you're not an idiot if you buy one (It's your money, do with it what you will), I'd say the Iphone is undeniably a pretty stupid, frivolous product, especially for the price.

thisispain, iPhones sell like hotcakes, not because the public is ignorant (while that may be the case), but because it's a trend. People buy things because other people buy things. It happens in clothes and it happens in [b]CONSUMER ELECTRONICS[/b]. Your so called "analogy" comparing consumer electronics to microcomputer CPUs was stupid.

[QUOTE=starpluck;23324166]It turns out he's wrong.[/QUOTE] He wasn't wrong by accident though, he was pretty much lying. [editline]12:45PM[/editline] [QUOTE=hypno-toad;23326123]Have you ever fucking been to highschool? Everybody and their dog is walking around with an Ipod. It's actually a rare sight to see another form of MP3 player.[/QUOTE] It's either a cellphone or an iPod over here.

American reviews, I'm American and I know that there is better selections overseas and the iphone is nothing groundbreaking compared to the other phones that came out before it. Sony Ericssons and Nokia phones are so much better, sony for the radio walkman loud speakers radio memory stick great cameras, nokia i dont know since i dont like nokia.

An iPod is pretty much the limit for my Apple product buying.

[QUOTE=Aznsniper911;23327516]American reviews, I'm American and I know that there is better selections overseas and the iphone is nothing groundbreaking compared to the other phones that came out before it. Sony Ericssons and Nokia phones are so much better, sony for the radio walkman loud speakers radio memory stick great cameras, nokia i dont know since i dont like nokia.[/QUOTE] Android is also more widespread in the US and is a better alternative to the iPhone.

[QUOTE=thisispain;23325402]if the android is superior as is said ad nauseam it would be the market leader but it isn't[/QUOTE] because the best product is always in first position

Now we just need Microsoft to pair up with HTC or Motorolla or whoever makes the Droids and create a Droid-like Zune.

[QUOTE=starpluck;23324166] Basically, the iPhone 4 would drastically lose signal if you placed your hand or fingers on the iPhones lower left side, [b]a problem for lefties.[/b] Steve Jobs recently said that it doesn't actually reduce signal, it's a glitch with the bars. It turns out he's wrong.[/QUOTE] I'm not sure about anyone else but I'm a righty and I hold my iPhone with my left hand.

[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;23325291]That millions apparently enjoy*[/QUOTE] Just goes to show how many idiots there are in the world.

I would get an android phone, I'm sick of apples bullshit. Especially that email which says "it's a software fault" when it BLATENTLY wasn't/

you have to admit though, steve jobs is an amazing salesman he could sell ice to eskimos

[QUOTE=thisispain;23326128]i don't fucking know dude ask someone who prefers OSX i'm saying don't just judge random people because they prefer a different operating, that's just stupid i don't even know why i'm posting about this, it's not like any of you are going to change your minds [editline]03:43AM[/editline] it's pretty obvious at this point that you hate the ipod purely because it's popular there's nothing wrong with that, but don't pretend it's more than that [editline]03:45AM[/editline] ah fuck it[/QUOTE] You're such a cry baby, at first nobody called you stupid for buying an iPhone, but you're trying pretty hard not to come as an intelligent person, take a look at your posts, they resemble a kid's trying to defend his toy. It's no news Apple products are usually overrated and overpriced, doesn't mean they are bad, it means they are usually overrated and overpriced. People buy products due to them being popular, and if you can't understand that, I don't know in which planet do you live, that's why we have marketing, so the product gets more popular.

[QUOTE=Turnips5;23326113]okay, fair point. what does OSX do that Windows 7 can't? or what does it do better? or what does it make easier? just asking, from what I've seen OSX looks like it has pretty much the same functionality as windows[/QUOTE] I find OS X far easier to use for general day to day tasks, and for my Uni course (Computer Science), having a proper UNIX-based OS is a god send. On top of this, Apple actually gives you useful stuff in OS X(native PDF reader, Java, Flash, email client, IM, competent web browser etc etc) out the box, whereas you need to download all that crap on Windows. Also for Macbooks, the design of them is leagues ahead of other laptops generally. They are thinner and lighter than other laptops while remaining stronger and having double the battery life of a Windows laptop(laptop, not netbook). Windows 7 is ok to use but I know stuff about it just through having to find out on google or whatever, OS X just strikes me as being more intuitive.

[QUOTE=starpluck;23325300]All of us here secretly have Apple products yet we tend to hate Apple. [/QUOTE] I don't have any Apple products and I don't like Apple; their stuff is way too expensive for what you get. [QUOTE=evilking1;23325564]solution : don't touch the fucking lower left side if you have shitty reception[/QUOTE] I'm a lefty; it would be kinda hard not to if I bought an iPhone. [QUOTE=thisispain;23325402]if the android is superior as is said ad nauseam it would be the market leader but it isn't[/QUOTE] Wrong. The popular stuff doesn't need to be better to be popular. It just needs a lot of hype and fans; which Apple has lot of.

[QUOTE=starpluck;23324166]Steve Jobs recently said that it doesn't actually reduce signal, it's a glitch with the bars. It turns out he's wrong.[/QUOTE] He said signal loss was a design flaw and offered refunds to the early adopters. Title is misleading.