Tim Farron says he regrets saying gay sex is not a sin

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[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;53044818]
You're either rejecting the goodness of god, or you are selectively applying divine law - either of these is massively inconsistent if you believe in the Christian doctrine[/QUOTE]

You do know that divine law doesn't levy the same punishment for every "sin" right? As well as that sin is a blanket term whether its something explicitly defined in the bible or just a general misdeed, the bible says thou shalt not murder not thou shall not assault but slapping someone unprovoked could be considered a sin. Not to mention the chuch's official stance on issues has changed dozens of times over the centuries. From something literally as simple as believing the death penalty was fine and lawful for a lot of things as opposed to the recent pope saying "Today the death penalty is inadmissible, no matter how serious the crime committed."

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[QUOTE=sgman91;53044875]This isn't a correct description. Being a sin is equivalent to being morally wrong. It's inherently a judgement on the act, though I will say that it isn't a unique judgment. In Christian theology, everyone is a sinner.[/QUOTE]

I disagree with that. Sin theologically for me would be a way in which a person misses the ideal state of being. That's a very esoteric statement - lending credence to Farron saying 'it would be naive to think journalists would care about theology' - but it's important in understanding sin. Sins and morals are linked, yes, in some cases, but a sin is not necessarily a moral wrong

[QUOTE=Cloak Raider;53044818]Surely that's a total oxymoron - Farron is a self-proclaimed Christian: if he believes something is a sin, against divine law, he also believes that it is immoral

otherwise, what is the purpose of divine law?

You're either rejecting the goodness of god, or you are selectively applying divine law - either of these is massively inconsistent if you believe in the Christian doctrine

If Farron holds that belief, I wouldn't judge him as wrong for it, I would judge it as extremely confusing because he simultaneously holds gay sex as a sin, but also tolerable/acceptable[/QUOTE]

It's immoral in the context of Christian morality, yes, but Christian morality also forbids one from judging others. Farron, as a liberal, quite explicitly doesn't want to apply Christian morality to everybody. I think that's where we're getting hung up. You can think something is a sin - like abortion - but still accept it, because a.) you're not God and therefore you don't get to make that judgement and b.) all sins are forgiven by repentance. It isn't inconsistent for a gay person to hold that same belief ; I as a bisexual hold it myself. I repent for what I consider to be my sinful acts (which include homosexual acts, among other things) and know that I am forgiven.

[Ona]

Why is he getting so up in arms about gay sex when there are people eating shellfish, like, [I]everywhere![/I]
Isn't that like, a major sin? And how about all these blasphemous heathens working on Sunday! Sunday's the day of rest, innit? How dare people be productive on the day they're supposed to be going to church and praising the lord!

And don't even get me [I]started[/I] on all these assholes praying in public spaces instead of keeping their prayers private and intimate. I mean, when will the madness end?
I, for one, move that we bring back stoning as a form of capital punishment. It's the only language these pagan monsters understand.

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[QUOTE=th0rianite;53042498]Nevertheless, he shouldn't have had to lie about what he believes in, that's not his fault. That's our fault as a society.[/QUOTE]

The idea that it's society's fault that he felt he had to lie about having a reprehensible opinion is laughable at best, get that shit out of here.