Windows 7/8 updates makes it spy on you like Windows 10 - Polidicks

[QUOTE=woolio1;48534403]I think it's natural progression for an OS-as-a-service. There are plenty of alternatives for the privacy conscious, including older versions of Windows. Not everyone has to upgrade to the latest OS, and not doing so would carry significant weight if done in high enough numbers. I'm just tired of hearing people complain about how Windows 10 is so invasive, like they were forced to install it. If you don't want to use it, it's literally as easy as doing nothing.[/QUOTE] There are alternatives, just less good ones each day. That's what the article implies. You may not care about privacy as long as the lack of it won't cause you direct harm, that's clear. The rest of us want to stop it from getting to that point entirely. For some individuals privacy is more important, (it is a vital part of democratic system for obvious reasons) but they alone can't campaign to protect it if nobody else cares about it.

[QUOTE=Rahu X;48537711]Hasn't Windows 7/8.x had this ability for years though? Besides that, it's not like your ISP hasn't been mining the same data from you every time you use the internet. Championing for privacy is great and brings the subject more to the forefront, but at the same time, I doubt your government is really going to care about the "Linux distros" you torrent and porn you masturbate to when it doesn't present any immediate threat to its country.[/QUOTE] Personally, I'd rather campaign for an end to these sorts of programs [b]before[/b] someone like Trump gets the helm. The NSA's part of the executive branch, so the President is ultimately in charge of it. If Bernie gets elected? Fine, he won't use it unless he gets search warrants. Obama? He might have used it without a warrant, but he would be looking for someone who actually committed a crime, so I'll let it slide. Clinton? Don't trust, for the same reasons I don't much trust Dubya. Trump? Oh god, I'm already dead. If this is corporate data mining, however, then I'm still championing for an end, but at the same time using Windows 10 because all the data a corporation would want to sell about me is probably available to the public for free somewhere. My data's worthless.

I'd use Linux but I'm too dumb to learn how it works.:saddowns:

[QUOTE=Wormy;48551943]Ubuntu is very easy to get used to, if you really want to change.[/QUOTE] If you're gona switch from win to ubuntu due to privacy reasons, you might as well stay on windows.

I really wish people who don't know what telemetry is would stop reporting on it. This is not Microsoft spying on you. Plus, as I have said before if Microsoft wanted to spy on you [B]they would not tell you and you would never be able to discover it.[/B] [editline]27th August 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Wormy;48551943]Ubuntu is very easy to get used to, if you really want to change.[/QUOTE] You mean the OS which literally sells your (local) searches to Amazon?

[QUOTE=Jsm;48552235] Plus, as I have said before if Microsoft wanted to spy on you [B]they would not tell you and you would never be able to discover it.[/B] [/QUOTE]What a silly and naive statement. It's easier and legally safer to disclose vague generic info than it is to keep something hidden.

[QUOTE=Wormy;48552344]Had no idea about that honestly.[/QUOTE] I dunno if they still do it, but they added it into the version with the awful interface changes.

[QUOTE=woolio1;48534403]I think it's natural progression for an OS-as-a-service. There are plenty of alternatives for the privacy conscious, including older versions of Windows. Not everyone has to upgrade to the latest OS, and not doing so would carry significant weight if done in high enough numbers. I'm just tired of hearing people complain about how Windows 10 is so invasive, like they were forced to install it. If you don't want to use it, it's literally as easy as doing nothing.[/QUOTE] "If you don't like the new windows just don't use them!" ~5 years later~ "OMG WTF WHY ARE YOU STILL ON AN OUTDATED OPERATING SYSTEM?!?!?!" [editline]27th August 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Jsm;48552235]I really wish people who don't know what telemetry is would stop reporting on it. This is not Microsoft spying on you. [/QUOTE] Because Windows 10 doesn't have literally integrated targeted advertising? But obviously that's perfectly separate from the "telemetry" and if you don't have that going around, you have nothing to worry about, right? [quote]Plus, as I have said before if Microsoft wanted to spy on you [B]they would not tell you and you would never be able to discover it.[/B] [/quote] Except, uhm, people immediately would, and Microsoft would get sued to hell and back, and at least in Europe get fined a fuckton. [quote] You mean the OS which literally sells your (local) searches to Amazon?[/quote] Yeah, also the one that comes with like dozen flavours without that don't, and if that still isn't enough for you, can be disabled within vanilla Ubuntu in literally [URL="https://fixubuntu.com/"]five minutes[/URL] with a clear guarantee there's nothing left going on behind your back if you do that.

And people say I'm dumb for screening updates and only installing ones I need while not installing ones I don't... [editline]27th August 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Keychain;48535442] Accept it. If you have nothing to hide then you have no reason to worry. None of these companies care about your personal endeavors.[/QUOTE] No. Accepting it is 100% entirely the wrong thing to do. Accepting it greenlights the sorts of surveillance that causes the fall of free society. We need to fight things like this tooth and nail. We need to demand our privacy back, we need to get that demand met, we need to show corporate america and the Pentagon that we still have a voice and that we're not afraid to use it if we need to. How we do that I do not know, but I do know that we need to do something about it, to stop it and prevent it. It shouldn't matter if you have anything to hide or not, having the right to hide it is a cornerstone of modern free society. I don't have anything to hide, either, unless you count frequent visits to e621 and /r/rule34 as something to hide. But I still demand my right to hide it, why? Because it's part of what makes the free world free. First, it starts with shit like this. Then we let targeted advertising through. Next thing you know we're letting the government read our spam email before we ever see it, and that's not a world I want to live in. Corporations and government officials have no right to know what I'm doing on my computer and I don't want to hand them that right.

What is wrong with you people? [img]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-USAfdvapcvg/Vd-8sPGoYSI/AAAAAAAAEic/v182azyizdE/s0/2015-08-28_02-43-02.png[/img] And that's it no more targeted ads Literally all the ads I've seen anyway is apps in the store as part of the live tile and the video ads in the solitaire collection big fucking whoop

[QUOTE=subenji99;48556744]What is wrong with you people? [img]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-USAfdvapcvg/Vd-8sPGoYSI/AAAAAAAAEic/v182azyizdE/s0/2015-08-28_02-43-02.png[/img] And that's it no more targeted ads Literally all the ads I've seen anyway is apps in the store as part of the live tile and the video ads in the solitaire collection big fucking whoop[/QUOTE] Can I just point out something. During the installation; this was the third thing I could tick. The only reason you wouldn't tick this is if you're an impatient fuck.

[QUOTE=Swilly;48556838]Can I just point out something. During the installation; this was the third thing I could tick. The only reason you wouldn't tick this is if you're an impatient fuck.[/QUOTE] There's also this if people are interested [url]https://choice.microsoft.com/en-us[/url] [editline]28th August 2015[/editline] [url]https://choice.microsoft.com/en-us/opt-out[/url] [editline]28th August 2015[/editline] For the lazy [t]http://sharex.moe/i/2015/08/15-08-28_15-29-56.png[/t]

[QUOTE=Scratch.;48557933]There's also this if people are interested [url]https://choice.microsoft.com/en-us[/url] [editline]28th August 2015[/editline] [url]https://choice.microsoft.com/en-us/opt-out[/url][/QUOTE] Never seems to actually work for me. I go in and disable them, refresh the page, and they're re-enabled.

[QUOTE=Alice3173;48557948]Never seems to actually work for me. I go in and disable them, refresh the page, and they're re-enabled.[/QUOTE] Working for me try edge?

[QUOTE=Scratch.;48557963]Working for me try edge?[/QUOTE] Weirdly enough it seems to have worked for me now. This is like the fourth time I've seen that linked and every other time it didn't work. I guess there must have been some issue or something that was fixed.

[QUOTE=Swilly;48556838]Can I just point out something. During the installation; this was the third thing I could tick. The only reason you wouldn't tick this is if you're an impatient fuck.[/QUOTE] I noticed this as well. Someone posted a huge "how to" on reddit and it was pretty much going through the registry to disable a load of things. All the things they disabled were options during the install if you didn't press express..

Dude you can disable these settings during install. I'm really not sure what you guys are going on about, put back on your tinfoil hats and go back to the Linux thread, there's nothing even remotely wrong with what Microsoft is doing. "We need to fight back" give me a break, this isn't fucking skynet we're talking about.

You would think all of the people that claim to know what they're doing with computers on FP would click Custom Install and actually uncheck and read through it instead of clicking NEXT NEXT NEXT NEXT

The problem I have is Microsoft doesn't really explain things so it leaves people to assume. But if you do proper research you can find people who explain what everything does and that it can be disabled. They just need to be more informative in my opinion. There is even a handful of software that will disable everything for you if you don't feel like searching through windows settings.