Colorado theater shooter James Holmes sentenced to life in prison - Polidicks

[QUOTE=agentfazexx;48404381]Me. I can't believe they let him live.[/QUOTE] Same.

[QUOTE=bdd458;48412446]Should have been 0 people tbh.[/QUOTE] No shit. One person threw the whole thing.

[QUOTE=agentfazexx;48412534]No shit. One person threw the whole thing.[/QUOTE] Oh, wait I misread your post and thought it was one juror who thought that the death penalty should have happened. Good on that one man then, the death penalty is senseless and barbaric. He saved the whole thing actually.

[QUOTE=agentfazexx;48411422]Keeping a human in a cage for 23 hours a day is pretty inhumane bud.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=ColdAsRice;48411447]So torturing a person by leaving them alone in a small concrete box 23/7 for maybe forty years is more humane than an instant death by a supersonic bullet that kills them faster than the brain can process? This isn't some case with murky details like a young black kid in the south accused of raping a white woman with no physical evidence, and the only witnesses are in confederation with each other. Everyone saw him shoot those people and walk out the back door to surrender to the cops. Cut and dried as it can get.[/QUOTE] this is a better argument for improving prison conditions to treat this guy better(and more up to par with certain other countries) than it is for the death penaltly

[QUOTE=Mattk50;48414505]this is a better argument for improving prison conditions to treat this guy better(and more up to par with certain other countries) than it is for the death penaltly[/QUOTE] The other countries that have better standards for prisons also often don't have life sentences at all (let alone life without parole) and instead opt for a renewed sentence.

[QUOTE=bdd458;48412631]Oh, wait I misread your post and thought it was one juror who thought that the death penalty should have happened. Good on that one man then, the death penalty is senseless and barbaric. He saved the whole thing actually.[/QUOTE] I respectfully disagree. In this case, it was warranted.

[QUOTE=Mattk50;48414505]this is a better argument for improving prison conditions to treat this guy better(and more up to par with certain other countries) than it is for the death penaltly[/QUOTE] The worst part is, every time I hear this brought up in real life, people will just laugh at you, thinking you moronic for wanting to increase spending on felons.

Once you set aside your revenge fantasies, what does the death penalty accomplish for protecting the public at large that keeping that person imprisoned for the rest of his life does not? In either scenario, the fellow in question is no longer a threat to the public, meaning that life in prison is just as effective, while also being more economic and humane. The primary moral argument [I]for[/I] the death penalty is one based off a sense vengeance, and I just don't think that the spirit of the justice system is to enact personal vengeance on behalf of victims. I'm not going to sugarcoat Holmes' crimes. He committed a monstrous crime. No doubt about that. But at the end of the day, what does another death accomplish? In prison, he is no longer a threat. Barring wild hypothetical scenarios, he will spend the rest of his living days safely isolated from society at large.

[QUOTE=Big Dumb American;48417764]Once you set aside your revenge fantasies, what does the death penalty accomplish for protecting the public at large that keeping that person imprisoned for the rest of his life does not? In either scenario, the fellow in question is no longer a threat to the public, meaning that life in prison is just as effective, while also being more economic and humane. The primary moral argument [I]for[/I] the death penalty is one based off a sense vengeance, and I just don't think that the spirit of the justice system is to enact personal vengeance on behalf of victims. I'm not going to sugarcoat Holmes' crimes. He committed a monstrous crime. No doubt about that. But at the end of the day, what does another death accomplish? In prison, he is no longer a threat. Barring wild hypothetical scenarios, he will spend the rest of his living days safely isolated from society at large.[/QUOTE] Uhh... People in prisons pose threats to other prisoners.

[QUOTE=agentfazexx;48419545]Uhh... People in prisons pose threats to other prisoners.[/QUOTE] execute them all then huh

At some point there is a level of conscious evil. Not everyone who commits a heinous act was just doing so because they were brainwashed or had mental issues. [editline]9th August 2015[/editline] For some individuals there is no "We need to teach them that what they did was wrong so they understand." Some know what they're doing is wrong and continue to do the action or enjoy the fact that it was wrong. I don't think most people that commit these mass shootings just happen to believe what they're doing is right or "could have been fixed" with care beforehand etc.

[QUOTE=agentfazexx;48419545]Uhh... People in prisons pose threats to other prisoners.[/QUOTE] Like you give two shits about prisoners.

[QUOTE=rampageturke 2;48419874]execute them all then huh[/QUOTE] I don't agree with what agentfazexx is saying but he didn't even come close to advocating [I]that.[/I]

[QUOTE=agentfazexx;48408586]This. He's probably going to be in solitary for his own protection. How is keeping someone in a cage 23 hours a day humane?[/QUOTE] You aren't "kept in a cage 24 hours a day" in prison, especially in countries that aren't the United States (Which has an abysmal prison system compared to a lot of developed countries.) Prison shouldn't be paradise but it also shouldn't be hell on earth, look at prisons in countries like Norway for what's ideal. They're designed to make sure prisoners aren't getting put back into prison (The United States. There's a reason Norway has fewer criminals per person than the United States, they don't use prison as a petty "punishment revenge" type deal. Norway has a very, very low amount of repeat offenders compared to the United States which is abysmal. Almost every western country has abolished the death penalty because it is considered inhumane, the same should go for in the United States, no matter the criminal. You can't be for "rehabilitation, not punishment" without being against the death penalty too. [editline]9th August 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=agentfazexx;48411422]Keeping a human in a cage for 23 hours a day is pretty inhumane bud.[/QUOTE] That's why we should overhaul the US prison system in general.