ISIS claims it could buy its first nuclear weapon from Pakistan within a year - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Zang-Pog;47786081]As scary as it sounds, it's probably just empty threats and propaganda.[/QUOTE] Why? Saudi Arabia just done the same thing.

[QUOTE=Karmah;47786626]I really hope they're bluffing, because if they are serious and end up acquiring such a weapon and firing it at the US, then then all of north america will be fucked[/QUOTE] More like maybe one mid-sized west-coast city. At most. Nukes aren't all-obliterating things, and Pakistani nukes aren't exactly top of the line.

Pakistan would be signing it's own death warrant if they even gave ISIS the materials to build a operational nuke and I'm sure India would love to have reason for Pakistan to be disarmed of its nuclear arsenal.

Jeb Bush campaign now: We must search for WMDs! Deja vu :tinfoil:

We have police cars with radiation detectors sensitive enough to pick up a guy who's had a nuclear stress test (Same amount of radiation as a few X-Rays) I think we'll be alright

[QUOTE=Bruhmis;47786192]even if they managed to get ahold of nuclear weapons, imagine the immediate response that would follow from the US and allied forces. any justification for diplomacy or patience would immediately be nullified and we would throw everything we have at them, which they could simply never survive.[/QUOTE] The problem with that is when they acquire it covertly and smuggle it to some populated area and detonate it - the damage is already done.

[QUOTE=Riller;47786654]More like maybe one mid-sized west-coast city. At most. Nukes aren't all-obliterating things, and Pakistani nukes aren't exactly top of the line.[/QUOTE] He's more referring to the political rather than radioactive fallout, I suspect.

No country would be moronic enough to supply DAESH with explosives, let alone nuclear armaments. Also, isn't Pakistan an ally of the US or at the very least on decent terms? As for the black market, it could be just me but I'd imagine even those with access to nuclear materials would understand that supplying these fuckers would paint a bullseye on their heads.

Well, I think ISIS highly underestimates the consequences of such a move. Even trying to buy one would probably tempt all kinds of special ops shit to be going down and a direct threat or attack would also call in the whole goddamn NATO. That'd be an entirely different caliber than the proxy troops they're currently facing, not only in terms of manpower but also supplies, weapons, technology, etc..

[QUOTE=Zang-Pog;47786081]As scary as it sounds, it's probably just empty threats and propaganda.[/QUOTE] Typical terrorist bluffing.

WMDs in Iraq!

[QUOTE=lazyguy;47787639]WMDs in Iraq![/QUOTE] Almost 13 years later still none found hope George Bush chokes on another pretzel.

[QUOTE=coldroll5;47787705]Almost 13 years later still none found hope George Bush chokes on another pretzel.[/QUOTE] (Except a few tons of sarin gas in 152mm artillery shells) [editline]23rd May 2015[/editline] ((And 550 tons of yellowcake uranium that, while not weaponized, was still a part of iraq's abandoned nuclear program. Not really a WMD per say, but certainly something you don't want to fall into terrorist hands.))

[QUOTE=Zambies!;47786305]We worry about North Korea, but Pakistan has proven a million times more worrying[/QUOTE] Which is why the US straight up bribes them and tries to keep them stable.

Bbbbut, Iran's nuclear program is the threat to us guys, guys, listen guyyyyys!

[QUOTE=Karmah;47786626]I really hope they're bluffing, because if they are serious and end up acquiring such a weapon and firing it at the US, then then all of north america will be fucked[/QUOTE] How would all of north America be fucked? A single nuke, especially one of Pakistani 'quality', would never be able to damage on such a large scale. Unless, of course, you mean the social changes and paranoia that would ensue from such an attack. Those would be pretty fucked up. Anyway, ISIS may be extremely aggressive and violent, but they are not extremely stupid. Attempting to acquire a nuke may very well make the world step up its game in destroying them. They have to be bluffing here.

yeeaah I dont think so.

[QUOTE=proch;47786141]Wouldn't that make the US and other nations perceive them as a much bigger threat and concentrating more on annihilating them? Nuclear weaponry are an incredibly big deal politically.[/QUOTE] Most don't consider Isis a rational actor. What they do doesn't have to make sense [editline]23rd May 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Karmah;47786626]I really hope they're bluffing, because if they are serious and end up acquiring such a weapon and firing it at the US, then then all of north america will be fucked[/QUOTE] They wouldn't fire it, it would have to be manually placed at the target.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;47786166]Even the Norks would have a tough time doing that, since the instant China were to find out, China would pull all support and sever ties with them.[/QUOTE] What? Breasts want to sell Nuclear Weapons?

They sound like they're going to finance it.

Move 1000 miles from civilization and your first delivery is on the house.

This needs to be taken seriously. People have been saying "They're not going to last much longer" for months now, but it still seems like they're gaining more and more ground. I think it's no longer a question of "if" , but "when". And with a terrorist organization that knows absolutely no bounds, they will definitely utilize it, even if it means committing complete suicide.

we can call their bluff all we want, whether or not it's true is irrelevant. we're wasting time when we've already wasted enough.

[QUOTE=Doom64hunter;47789105]This needs to be taken seriously. People have been saying "They're not going to last much longer" for months now, but it still seems like they're gaining more and more ground. I think it's no longer a question of "if" , but "when". And with a terrorist organization that knows absolutely no bounds, they will definitely utilize it, even if it means committing complete suicide.[/QUOTE] Only an idiot would think ISIS wouldn't be around for the considerable future.

I don't think they could get ahold of one, apparently the Pentagon keeps a close eye on all of Pakistans nuclear weapons, and if ISIS really had a chance of getting ahold of one they wouldn't say anything about it until after they used it. [QUOTE=Bruhmis;47786192]even if they managed to get ahold of nuclear weapons, imagine the immediate response that would follow from the US and allied forces. any justification for diplomacy or patience would immediately be nullified and we would throw everything we have at them, which they could simply never survive.[/QUOTE] Here is a quote from a Reddit user: [QUOTE]Say you are ISIS. Say you have a major problem with the decadence of the West and you want to strike a mighty blow for Islam. So you ship a nuke to Paris. Paris goes up in smoke, you spend the next six hours shouting 'praise allah' before the combined might of every industrial nation comes crashing down on you like the fist of an angry god. But you do not care, you struck a blow for Islam, and you are going to heaven. Your life was traded for what you believe to be the common good and something greater, in your mind, you are a hero and you will have eternal glory in heaven. Belief in an afterlife is a fucking scary thing. [/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SuperPlamz;47787992]How would all of north America be fucked? A single nuke, especially one of Pakistani 'quality', would never be able to damage on such a large scale. Unless, of course, you mean the social changes and paranoia that would ensue from such an attack. Those would be pretty fucked up. Anyway, ISIS may be extremely aggressive and violent, but they are not extremely stupid. Attempting to acquire a nuke may very swell make the world step up its game in destroying them. They have to be bluffing here.[/QUOTE] Youre forgetting they according to some rumors are actively trying start the end of the world.

Within a year, or maybe even less, ISIS will have killed themselves. They don't even know how to run a country, they're basically just bleeding out at this point.

[QUOTE=Karmah;47786626]I really hope they're bluffing, because if they are serious and end up acquiring such a weapon and firing it at the US, then then all of north america will be fucked[/QUOTE] North America wouldn't be physically or politically. Physically it is unlikely they could get it into and detonate it in the US. Even if they did damage would likely be isolated although tragic. Politically it'd probably unite instead of divide North America and cause them to go on a rampage on the Islamic State.

[url]http://www.conflict-news.com/dont-stress-isis-cant-buy-a-nuclear-weapon/[/url] Guys, ISIS is literally just living in a pipe dream at the moment. They can not possibly acquire a nuke. While it is true that the Saudis do hold some stake in the Pakistani nuke program and possibly have limited access, ISIS does not. This article explains it nicely.

[QUOTE=Chrisordie;47786109]And they are just crazy enough to use it too.[/QUOTE] ISIS is a group that, if you study their religious ideology, is trying to bring on doomsday. The idea of them with a nuke is about as bad as things can get.