• Jennifer Lawrence claims the leak was a "sex crime"
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[QUOTE=Starlight 456;46176700]"haha hey guys I masturbate to a woman's private nude pictures, aren't I so funny and cool????"[/QUOTE] It was more about how you can argue what happened was theft, breach of privacy and overall not a good thing by any standard but calling it a sensationalist and cheap buzz word like "sex crime" only demeans people who actually did suffer from sex crimes and exist only to give news outlets an easy headline which gets both the outlet and JLaw more exposure. But obviously it is hard to think about things when you are living on the edge.
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;46176611]Does the category "sex crime" come with an inherit statement of severity? Is getting punched in the back of the head not a violent crime because murder is a violent crime?[/QUOTE] It has nothing to do with severity. It's about the act being committed. For example, rubbing your self against people in public without consent for sexual pleasure is a sex crime. (this is a thing by the way) As is bestiality. Stealing someone's nude photos for people to wank to is not a sex crime as there isn't actually physical involvement between the two parties. Making obscene phone calls to someone is a form of sex crime because it falls under sexual harassment. Wanking to stolen photos is not sexual harassment or a sex crime, and wanking to photos isn't a crime. It is morally wrong and the people who stole the photos should be punished for theft, but there is no sex crime committed here. It's the same how if you stalked someone, took voyeuristic photos and wanked to those photos you'd be punished for stalking and Voyeurism. However, if those photos you took ended up on the internet, someone isn't breaking the law by wanking to said Voyeuristic photos. They are committing a morally wrong act if they knew of the true nature of these photos, but no law is being broken. This would be a sex crime if a person who was having a wank to these leaks was calling up, texting or in some way trying to contact these celebrities to inform them of their actions. I get what you're trying to say with this one, but by the books you're just short of it. This topic is honestly pretty close in nature to a sex crime, but it's a handful of technicalities short of being an actual sex crime.
Yes a leaked picture off of the internet is as bad of a crime as rape
The whole leaked picture thing was way overhyped. It was pretty exciting the first day, but I just deleted the pictures later, because what's the point?
[QUOTE=MightyLOLZOR;46176879]The whole leaked picture thing was way overhyped. It was pretty exciting the first day, but I just deleted the pictures later, because what's the point?[/QUOTE] I never downloaded or viewed them to begin with. Though I can understand the curiosity aspect that would drive people to do so.
An embarrassing breach of privacy, yes. Sex crime? Get your head out of your ass.
[QUOTE=Sableye;46176848]Yes a leaked picture off of the internet is as bad of a crime as rape[/QUOTE] That's exactly what she means, that it's as bad as rape, not that it's creepy and disgusting for an army of lifeless neckbeards to jack off to her stolen pictures How would you like it if someone you didn't know texted you saying "hey jacked off to your profile pic, couldn't resist"? You'd probably find it creepy and uncomfortable. That's basically what happened to Jennifer Lawrence on a massive scale.
[QUOTE=.Lain;46176434]should sites knowingly hosting child porn not be punished? it's the same kind of ordeal. perpetuating the issue etc.[/QUOTE] Child porn is the sexual abuse of children. Leaked nudes is embarrassing. Very large league gaps.
[QUOTE=Mr. N;46176922]Child porn is the sexual abuse of children. Leaked nudes is embarrassing. Very large league gaps.[/QUOTE] So what's your response to assault, then? [I]"Eh, some people get murdered, assault is nothing!"[/I]? Just because one is less severe doesn't mean it should be just blown off as if it's nothing.
[QUOTE=Starlight 456;46176700]"haha hey guys I masturbate to a woman's private nude pictures, aren't I so funny and cool????"[/QUOTE] *stands on park bench with megaphone* I just masturbated.
[QUOTE=Starlight 456;46176972]So what's your response to assault, then? [I]"Eh, some people get murdered, assault is nothing!"[/I]? Just because one is less severe doesn't mean it should be just blown off as if it's nothing.[/QUOTE] Leaked nudes would be more in the league of pouring a glass of water on someone.
[QUOTE=Starlight 456;46176972]So what's your response to assault, then? [I]"Eh, some people get murdered, assault is nothing!"[/I]? Just because one is less severe doesn't mean it should be just blown off as if it's nothing.[/QUOTE] The act one is depicting is illegal, the other is legal.
[QUOTE=draugur;46176817]However, if those photos you took ended up on the internet, someone isn't breaking the law by wanking to said Voyeuristic photos.[/QUOTE] I'm not even talking about nerds beating it I'm talking about the leakers. [editline]7th October 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=deadoon;46177012]The act one is depicting is illegal, the other is legal.[/QUOTE] no, at the VERY LEAST it is copyright infringement. It is illegal no matter what.
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;46177022]I'm not even talking about nerds beating it I'm talking about the leakers. [editline]7th October 2014[/editline] no, at the VERY LEAST it is copyright infringement. It is illegal no matter what.[/QUOTE] "The act one is depicting"
i think stealing naked photos of someone isn't a whole lot different from taking naked photos of someone that they didn't consent to. and you can call it 'leaking' but what's the difference?
[QUOTE=deadoon;46177047]"The act one is depicting"[/QUOTE] I guess I'm not understanding the context of your post. Seems to me you were replying to the child porn vs leaked nudes analogy but both of them are illegal.
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;46177066]I guess I'm not understanding the context of your post. Seems to me you were replying to the child porn vs leaked nudes analogy but both of them are illegal.[/QUOTE] I was specifically stating the content of the pictures is what makes them different. The possession of one is inherently a criminal offense, while the other is a civil one at worst. Especially since you are unlikely to sell such pictures after gaining possession. Also for criminal copyright infringement you need to have a registered copyright, and the work must have had a retail value associated with it.
The only person that should be punished is the original uploader. Anyone else should be left alone. No point trying to hide the images since they're on the internet and a million hard drives.
[QUOTE=Mr. N;46176922]Child porn is the sexual abuse of children. Leaked nudes is embarrassing. Very large league gaps.[/QUOTE] where do you draw the line between sexual harassment and simple embarassment lol [editline]7th October 2014[/editline] hey guys it's not as bad as something that could theoretically happen so it's irrelevant right?
[QUOTE=.Lain;46177181]where do you draw the line between sexual harassment and simple embarassment lol [editline]7th October 2014[/editline] hey guys it's not as bad as something that could theoretically happen so it's irrelevant right?[/QUOTE] Harassment is a direct action against someone, embarrassment is a reaction to an incident involving them.
and how is leaking private images not a direct action?
[QUOTE=.Lain;46177240]and how is leaking private images not a direct action?[/QUOTE] They were involved in the incident but they were not directly contacted by the perpetrators of the incident? The people who leaked their pics never directly did anything to the person.
[QUOTE=deadoon;46177284]They were involved in the incident but they were not directly contacted by the perpetrators of the incident? The people who leaked their pics never directly did anything to the person.[/QUOTE] you are delusional. the people who leaked those pictures is sharing meant-to-be confidential images with news sources. it is absolutely a direct harassment
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you guys are so out of touch with reality it's fucking unbelievable.
[QUOTE=.Lain;46177294]you are delusional. the people who leaked those pictures is sharing meant-to-be confidential images with news sources. it is absolutely a direct harassment[/QUOTE] How was the person directly affected by the person leaking of their pictures? Did they hear or see anything from the so called harasser due to them leaking the pictures? After all that harasser is the one who leaked the pictures according to you.
[QUOTE=deadoon;46177388]How was the person directly affected by the person leaking of their pictures? Did they hear or see anything from the so called harasser due to them leaking the pictures? After all that harasser is the one who leaked the pictures according to you.[/QUOTE] how were they directly affected?? hmm maybe by having private naked photos of themsevles passed around the net by gross pervert losers?
Can't believe people are trying to justify what happened and even down play it. What happened is a sex crime, it is no different then revenge porn. The pictures may not be hard core, but they're sexual in nature. She has a point, stop calling it a scandle/leak, because all that does is put the focus on the victim and what they did or didn't do. A good example I like to use is this. I went to a school where a guy got nudes from his girlfriend (she was underage). No real issue here until the guy decided to text the images around. Then more people texted the images. Eventually all the school had the images. Police got involved and interview and charged all the people who distributed the images. The people who only received them didn't get in trouble, but thy did have to remove the images obviously. Same concept..the people who distribute these images need to be handled. Not the ones that viewed them. Unfortunately though, the people that view them don't help the situation.
[QUOTE=Lachz0r;46177522]how were they directly affected?? hmm maybe by having private naked photos of themsevles passed around the net by gross pervert losers?[/QUOTE] Maybe you should try reading exactly what I said again. Did the person who leaked it ever have contact or have communication with the person affected? You never answered any of the questions I asked and dodged them.
I'm going to hell because the first thing I thought of wasn't the photo incident but the Eurythmics track. [video=youtube;IcTP7YWPayU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcTP7YWPayU[/video]
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