• Jennifer Lawrence claims the leak was a "sex crime"
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[QUOTE=LEETNOOB;46182218]No, let this be a lesson for them (fucking hell, why are you even asking, it's common knowledge that the internet is [b]not[/b] known for privacy). Considering the scope of this scandal, all celebs should know about this and, from now on, be a little bit concerned about putting nudes or other very private stuff on a cloud service. If leaks keep happening after this whole thing, then there's only 1 conclusion that can be made about them: they're fucking stupid.[/QUOTE] does iCloud count as the internet i'm pretty sure my brother's girlfriend for example doesn't know it does and i meant how anyone would know this before these leaks
[QUOTE=LEETNOOB;46182339]More like if this would have happened to someone that isn't a celeb, but yes, I agree completely.[/QUOTE] I dont give a shit about Jennifer lawrence as a celebrity so my standpoint is not affected by that and also I doubt we would hear about it were it just some random person but I guarantee my opinion would be exactly the same
[QUOTE=zupadupazupadude;46182372]does iCloud count as the internet i'm pretty sure my brother's girlfriend for example doesn't know it does and i meant how anyone would know this before these leaks[/QUOTE] Noone did, which is why I said that this should be a lesson to them.
[QUOTE=LEETNOOB;46182339]More like if this would have happened to anyone that isn't a celeb, but yes, I agree completely.[/QUOTE] Except revenge porn is the same thing and people still care about it so you're wrong
[QUOTE=LEETNOOB;46182339]More like if this would have happened to anyone that isn't a celeb, but yes, I agree completely.[/QUOTE] I honestly don't even know who Jennifer Lawrence is :v: [QUOTE=LEETNOOB;46182253] Person 1 does thing 1 Person 2 does thing 2 thanks to thing 1. If person 1 had not done thing 1, thing 2 would not have happened. (or at least would not have affected person 1) [/QUOTE] Of course, but you have to keep in mind that this is the same thing people who say things such as; "Well, if the person hadn't dressed provocatively/hadn't gotten drunk/hadn't gone out at all, he/she would never have gotten raped" "Well, if they hadn't shown that they were homosexuals publically, those homophobes would never have beaten them up" use to motivate their opinions. I'm not trying to provoke you, I simply want to know, where do you, personally, draw the line?
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;46183015]Except revenge porn is the same thing and people still care about it so you're wrong[/QUOTE] ...what [editline]8th October 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Rixxz2;46183148]"Well, if the person hadn't dressed provocatively/hadn't gotten drunk/hadn't gone out at all, he/she would never have gotten raped" "Well, if they hadn't shown that they were homosexuals publically, those homophobes would never have beaten them up" use to motivate their opinions. I'm not trying to provoke you, I simply want to know, where do you, personally, draw the line?[/QUOTE] [u]The case you described is:[/u] Person A exhibits behavior A openly, person B acts based on exhibition that he witnesses. [u]The case that is happening right now:[/u] Person A stores something personal in a place which, despite there being miniscule chances, can be broken into. Person B breaks in, steals everything and spreads it around for everyone to see. Rape, or someone being beaten up for expressing their sexuality openly is different from the current situation, both (rape and beatings) are bad and are not relevant to the current situation. The person took a risk by putting something very private on a website, had the person not chosen to do so, this scandal would not have happened. Notice that what I am describing is different from what you are. Difference between case 1 and case 2 is that the person's behavior is open and is a direct consequence of what happened to him, whereas in case 2 the behavior is not open, the consequence is indirect and could never have happened had there been no nudes on a cloud service in the first place.
[QUOTE=.Lain;46176434]should sites knowingly hosting child porn not be punished? it's the same kind of ordeal. perpetuating the issue etc.[/QUOTE] yeah, but some of the sites hosted it unknowingly, i.e anonymous image hosts like imgur. Imgur was good at taking them down, others, not so much
[QUOTE=Cabbage;46183373]yeah, but some of the sites hosted it unknowingly, i.e anonymous image hosts like imgur. Imgur was good at taking them down, others, not so much[/QUOTE] Yeah, no one is arguing websites should be punished for unknowingly hosting illegal images. In fact, there are protections in law for just that
[QUOTE=LEETNOOB;46183321]...what [editline]8th October 2014[/editline] [u]The case you described is:[/u] Person A exhibits behavior A openly, person B acts based on exhibition that he witnesses. [u]The case that is happening right now:[/u] Person A stores something personal in a place which, despite there being miniscule chances, can be broken into. Person B breaks in, steals everything and spreads it around for everyone to see. Rape, or someone being beaten up for expressing their sexuality openly is different from the current situation, both (rape and beatings) are bad and are not relevant to the current situation. The person took a risk by putting something very private on a website, had the person not chosen to do so, this scandal would not have happened. Notice that what I am describing is different from what you do.[/QUOTE] Mhm, akin to forgetting your keys in the ignition of your car, which then causes it to get stolen. Your mistake was stupid, but the person stealing it is complete garbage
[QUOTE=Rixxz2;46183407]Mhm, akin to forgetting your keys in the ignition of your car, which then causes it to get stolen. Your mistake was stupid, but the person stealing it is complete garbage[/QUOTE] How is it garbage? There have been multiple times when people would break into a car if there was something on the seat(s) that looked valuable/was a point of interest. In the case of this whole scandal, noone knew there were nudes on there, but the point still remains.
[QUOTE=LEETNOOB;46183446]How is it garbage? There have been multiple times when people would break into a car if there was something on the seat(s) that looked valuable/was a point of interest. In the case of this whole scandal, noone knew there were nudes on there, but the point still remains.[/QUOTE] No, my point was that the person doing it [B]is[/B] human garbage (although I suppose that is fairly debatable, as well, depending on why the person did it)
[QUOTE=Rixxz2;46183476]No, my point was that the person doing it [B]is[/B] human garbage[/QUOTE] Oh, sorry.
This is the actual definition of white knighting. You lonely fucktards wouldn't give a shit if some ugly celeb you don't care about had nudes leaked, but because she's attractive you'll go along with her comparing it to crimes like rape. Fuck off.
[QUOTE=LEETNOOB;46183321]...what [/QUOTE] You expect me to babysit you because you don't know things? Google it
[QUOTE=hrak;46183529]This is the actual definition of white knighting. You lonely fucktards wouldn't give a shit if some ugly celeb you don't care about had nudes leaked, but because she's attractive you'll go along with her comparing it to crimes like rape. Fuck off.[/QUOTE] gg reading my above post that ppl agreed with where i dont care about who it is but more the crime being committed
[QUOTE=hrak;46183529]This is the actual definition of white knighting. You lonely fucktards wouldn't give a shit if some ugly celeb you don't care about had nudes leaked, but because she's attractive you'll go along with her comparing it to crimes like rape. Fuck off.[/QUOTE] I love it when people make decisions on why I do things for me. Really takes off the mental load, y'know? But really, fuck off. People leaking nude pictures of anybody sucks, it isn't fair for the victim, famous or not. We just never hear about the "normals" who suffer this because the media doesn't give a shit about the ongoing problem of revenge porn.
[QUOTE=hrak;46183529]This is the actual definition of white knighting. You lonely fucktards wouldn't give a shit if some ugly celeb you don't care about had nudes leaked, but because she's attractive you'll go along with her comparing it to crimes like rape. Fuck off.[/QUOTE] wow dude you got me can you read minds?
[QUOTE=hexpunK;46183701]I love it when people make decisions on why I do things for me. Really takes of the mental load, y'know? But really, fuck off. People leaking nude pictures of anybody sucks, it isn't fair for the victim, famous or not. We just never hear about the "normals" who suffer this because the media doesn't give a shit about the ongoing problem of revenge porn.[/QUOTE] You hear about tons of 'less attractive' celebs having nudes leaked, and NO ONE GIVES A SHIT. There are no bleeding-heart forum posts. Because this is Jennifer Lawrence, every lonely retard's fantasy, the white knights come out in full force to speak out against an issue they previously did not give a fuck about. Do not even try to play off your pathetic, selfish bullshit as a product of some selfless rhetoric.
[QUOTE=hrak;46183781][B]You hear about tons of 'less attractive' celebs having nudes leaked, and NO ONE GIVES A SHIT[/B]. There are no bleeding-heart forum posts. Because this is Jennifer Lawrence, every lonely retard's fantasy, the white knights come out in full force to speak out against an issue they previously did not give a fuck about. Do not even try to play off your pathetic, selfish bullshit as a product of some selfless rhetoric.[/QUOTE] If someone made a thread regarding that, you'd see about the same amount of, what you call, "white-knight" responses. Them being celebrities is completely irrelevant If anything, I've seen a lot more very creepy exact-opposite responses based around the fact that they're "attractive", I.E "but its ok cause it's hot and it gives me something to masturbate to". And if she actually was "every lonely retard's" fantasy, wouldn't those be the kind of responses you'd expect, then? Then again, it's fairly obvious that you're just an alt of another user, coming in here to get some responses, so I'm not entirely certain why I'm even replying
I really dont get how people actually dont think their is a small amount of fault for everyone that had nude photos leaked and then attack the people who are just telling the truth. First of all, the internet has never and most likely will never be private. Ultimately, if anyone knows exactly what you are doing its the fucking ISP you pay for, so just the fact you are paying a company to even access the internet is showing you dont have privacy, even just from that. Not even bringing up shit like sites that are tracking you, google analyitics, the NSA, and whoever else is inevitability invading everyones "privacy" on the internet. Anything can say its private on the internet, that holds fuck all merit what so ever, it sucks but its a price that we have to pay for the insane freedom and general openness of the internet. Everything is there and everyone is connected. So when you as person make the choice to take nude photos, you right there just took the small risk of someone else seeing them who never intended, this is excluding the internet completely. Then when you use your Iphone to take a selfie nude you just did three things, one its now on a phone most likely connected to the internet which means you just made the choice and risk of it possibly getting hacked and leaked. You now have the picture just on the phone which could be seen by someone unintended. You also now have the risk of the phone being stolen and falling into the same situation as getting hacked, except it was a physical theft this time and not cyber shit. Now for the sake of the argument ill continue using iphones and focus back on the Internet, first of all you HAVE to get a dataplan to even get one of these phones to even work. That means signing up with a company, a company that tracks what you do in terms of calling and sites looked at, data downloaded or uploaded, etc. So none of that is private. Those nude pictures were never private the second they were anywhere connected to the internet or connected to some company with a service and the second they were on those things the risk of getting them hacked or leaked is there. So yes, all these celebrity that had their shit hacked still have fault in this, uploading the stuff to a cloud is completely their own fault and if they never uploaded their own nude pictures then the hacker wouldnt have them. And its so silly to throw the shitty word Victim Blaming around at this. Yeah of fucking course im putting some blame on the victim because they made the choice to put this stuff up where others could potentially get in and they do have blame to them. You dont need to remind me with stupid buzzwords that have become derogatory due to peoples inability to use them appropriately. If you dont want to have the risk of getting your nude photos hacked then dont put them wherever someone else could get them, its so fucking simple yet some people have a hard time realizing or even just wanting to actually admit that yeah, the celebs fucked up in this. But with that all said that doesnt mean its there fault, they just took the risk and ultimately are partly responsible for what happened because it was there photos they chose to take and upload. In the end its the hackers fault, whoever it is broke the law and is fucked up since its clearly someone targeting specifics. That person has 100% blame when it comes to the actual leaks, the celebrity are only at fault with the risk they took but they didnt do anything to where its there fault the photos got leaked. But to completely ignore the shortsightedness of the celebritys, people who should(sadly) expect this type of shit from people because they already got the real life version of it with paparazzi, is just completely silly and even sillier to attack people who just say this stuff. So yeah, not celebs fault the photos got leaked, but its the celebs fault in the risk they took and the hacker is completely to blame for this entire thing happening.
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;46183577]You expect me to babysit you because you don't know things? Google it[/QUOTE] Can you drop the tough guy act? Makes you look like a pretentuous tool.
[QUOTE=HoodedSniper;46183874]I really dont get how people actually dont think their is a small amount of fault for everyone that had nude photos leaked and then attack the people who are just telling the truth. *rest of post*[/QUOTE] Yes, most of the "attackers" seem to miss the difference between taking precautions, and giving up freedoms completely. But, as I've said in another thread about the same subject, it's also important to keep in mind that some of the people weren't aware of the fact that their devices uploaded their pictures to the cloud, and the ones that were aware, albeit being naive, trusted Apple, a multi-billion dollar company, to keep their data safe. Much like how [B]most[/B] people trust their bank to keep their money safe. If anything, I'd say most of the blame should be put on the intruders, while a lot of it should also be put on Apple, for having ridiculously low security-standards for a company of their level, while at the same time more or less bragging about how tight their security is, and how much they value the safety of their clients data
[QUOTE=LEETNOOB;46183901]Can you drop the tough guy act? Makes you look like a pretentuous tool.[/QUOTE] dude, being told to find relevant information on your own is something that's expected of you since elementary school, stop trying to demonize him.
[QUOTE=LEETNOOB;46183901]Can you drop the tough guy act? Makes you look like a pretentuous tool.[/QUOTE] it's not an act buddy I bench 300 and beat up nerds like you who don't google things it's just what I do [IMG]http://i.somethingawful.com/forumsystem/emoticons/emot-clint.gif[/IMG]
[QUOTE=hrak;46183781]You hear about tons of 'less attractive' celebs having nudes leaked, and NO ONE GIVES A SHIT. There are no bleeding-heart forum posts. Because this is Jennifer Lawrence, every lonely retard's fantasy, the white knights come out in full force to speak out against an issue they previously did not give a fuck about. Do not even try to play off your pathetic, selfish bullshit as a product of some selfless rhetoric.[/QUOTE] lol what the fuck did hex do? calm down and yes people do care about 'less atractive' celebs getting their shit leaked, do you have any evidence to the contrary besides people like seano who are basically joke posters?
thank you hrak for telling me truth about my own self can't believe i've been deluding myself all this time, thinking i actually empathize with & care for other human beings when in fact all i want is to get my dick wet and objectify women like a greasy neckbeard i applaud you for liberating me from this prison of political correctness and mangina-ism [editline]ok[/editline] seriously dude stop projecting & go outside and pet a dog or something
[QUOTE=Ownederd;46183932]dude, being told to find relevant information on your own is something that's expected of you since elementary school, stop trying to demonize him.[/QUOTE] Funny you should mention that, because I've seen people do this time and time again, or else they'd have their views shot down for not showing any data or anything related to it at all. Best part is that its usually the people defending bullshit asking for information on another's "not so welcome'd here ideas".
[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;46184728]Funny you should mention that, because I've seen people do this time and time again, or else they'd have their views shot down for not showing any data or anything related to it at all. Best part is that its usually the people defending bullshit asking for information on another's "not so welcome'd here ideas".[/QUOTE] Yeah believe it or not there is a difference between burden of proof and some guy expecting me to be his encyclopedia
[QUOTE=Venezuelan;46186085]Yeah believe it or not there is a difference between burden of proof and some guy expecting me to be his encyclopedia[/QUOTE] Ah yes, the so called double-standards SH has.
[QUOTE=Rocâ„¢;46186385]Ah yes, the so called double-standards SH has.[/QUOTE] [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revenge_porn[/url] are you happy now lol
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