Explosions and gunfire at Istanbul Atatürk Airport [36+ dead, 70+ injured] - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Chuckymore;50611617]That's some crazy stuff going on lately.[/QUOTE] Things like this have been happening as long as history has been recorded. People seem to forget the internet has been as it is for only 6-7 years now. People who never watched the news before the internet are now exposed to it on a regular basis. Things like this are not new and indicative of impending end times. The technology however, is quite new and dangerous; resulting is very high death tolls.

[QUOTE=Zephyrs;50613862]Law enforcement managed to shoot one of these pieces of shit and paralyze him before he blew him self up. At least some people were saved. Vaguely NSFW warning. [media]https://twitter.com/sco1905/status/747902680220205056[/media][/QUOTE] ...Holy shit, was that the guy's leg that flew around in the right corner near the end? It's also pretty shitty to see that the security guards' standard training- to go up and tell him he was under arrest- could've gotten him killed, had he not realized that man had a suicide vest on. While what that guy did was in no way good, I still find myself kinda feelin bad for him- imagine the crazy shit that could've been in his head that made him do this, and the fact that he spent his last moments laying on the ground, paralyzed, writhing in pain.

[QUOTE=MaximLaHaxim;50614004]laying on the ground, paralyzed, writhing in pain.[/QUOTE] I'm of the mind that if they're out to murder civilians in a "terror" campaign, they deserve the pain.

[QUOTE=ReligiousNutjob;50614058]I'm of the mind that if they're out to murder civilians in a "terror" campaign, they deserve the pain.[/QUOTE] What if they didn't know better? What if they were so deeply entrenched in their beliefs that they literally didn't know better, or were taught fucked-up shit as a kid? I wouldn't say they deserve the pain unless they knew better.

Do we have any knowledge of the victims' nationalities?

[QUOTE=ReligiousNutjob;50614058]I'm of the mind that if they're out to murder civilians in a "terror" campaign, they deserve the pain.[/QUOTE] I'd say that nobody deserves it, but it is not at all unreasonable to not have any degree of empathy for their pain. Quite the opposite in fact. Their brief, agonized suffering is utterly unimportant, and does not deserve respect, sympathy, or anything beyond a mentioning in passing to exemplify the heroism of those who thwarted their efforts. We should let them be forgotten in the ashes of history as the minor irrelevance that they are. By even thinking about them as anything other than a fleeting blip in history, you have given them power over your thoughts and emotions. They are nothing but what you make them.

[QUOTE=MaximLaHaxim;50614106]What if they didn't know better? What if they were so deeply entrenched in their beliefs that they literally didn't know better, or were taught fucked-up shit as a kid? I wouldn't say they deserve the pain unless they knew better.[/QUOTE] What if they are just scumbag humans that aren't even savable because their view of the world is utter shit? Should save ourselves from that therapy experiment.

[QUOTE=Tudd;50614453]What if they are just scumbag humans that aren't even savable because their view of the world is utter shit? Should save ourselves from that therapy experiment.[/QUOTE] What if it was a worldview which they were told by their parents/other extremists? They aren't all random people who decided "lol let's go kill people, we know it's wrong but fuck it who cares", some of them are completely normal people who have been horribly misguided. Unless they 100% know better I will feel bad for them. Not because they "didn't get to finish the job" or anything like that, but because they would've been horribly and inhumanely misguided to believe that these acts are good.

[QUOTE=MaximLaHaxim;50614106]What if they didn't know better? What if they were so deeply entrenched in their beliefs that they literally didn't know better, or were taught fucked-up shit as a kid? I wouldn't say they deserve the pain unless they knew better.[/QUOTE] Why should we sympathize with murderers now? Have we gone so soft that we need to understand their entire upbringing before we can give them the punishment they deserve? Jesus

[QUOTE=Tarver;50614528]Why should we sympathize with murderers now? Have we gone so soft that we need to understand their entire upbringing before we can give them the punishment they deserve? Jesus[/QUOTE] So people who don't know better than to do things like this deserve punishment? Not the way I think. If they knew better, then they clearly need to have their ass punished, but if they didn't then I'd much prefer they be helped in some way. Any way, other than prison/things clearly meant to "punish" them.

[QUOTE=MaximLaHaxim;50614106]What if they didn't know better? What if they were so deeply entrenched in their beliefs that they literally didn't know better, or were taught fucked-up shit as a kid? I wouldn't say they deserve the pain unless they knew better.[/QUOTE] If they're so deeply entrenched in their rubbish beliefs that they think that murdering innocent civilians minding their own business is justified and then they get fucked up hard in the middle of murdering innocent civilians they deserve everything they get, fuck them. Try to remove their bullshit indoctrination in them before or after the act, whatever, but if you fuck them up while they're in the middle of the act and do it to save innocent lives so be it, they don't deserve remorse.

[QUOTE=Limed00d;50614120]Do we have any knowledge of the victims' nationalities?[/QUOTE] i hope not

[QUOTE=MaximLaHaxim;50614106]What if they didn't know better? What if they were so deeply entrenched in their beliefs that they literally didn't know better, or were taught fucked-up shit as a kid? I wouldn't say they deserve the pain unless they knew better.[/QUOTE] in an absolutely perfect world, maybe. but in this world, hes running at you, he wants to kill you and everyone you know, and he has a bomb. its you, your friends, your family, or him. its unfortunate he has to feel pain, but he gets no sympathy, because he was going to cause so much more, otherwise.

Anybody claimed responsibility yet?

It pisses me off a little bit about how few people are talking about this. Just because it's in Turkey and not Europe. The security staff did a decent job preventing more death in my opinion.

My sister is in Istanbul Airport.

[QUOTE=Buck.;50614962]It pisses me off a little bit about how few people are talking about this. Just because it's in Turkey and not Europe. The security staff did a decent job preventing more death in my opinion.[/QUOTE] Sadly it's not just 'Europe'. I'm pretty sure that if some horrible shit happened anywhere in Eastern Europe no one would give a shit for more than 5 minutes.

[QUOTE=Buck.;50614962]It pisses me off a little bit about how few people are talking about this. Just because it's in Turkey and not Europe.[/QUOTE] This death toll has even exceeded the Brussels airport bombings.

-dick post-

[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;50615012]I feel like a dick for saying this but I think its the Turkish gov's fault. But i feel that since turkey fund terrorism/don't do enough to combat extremism - they're sort of reaping what they sew. [b]Totally wrong for any civilians[/b] to die but I sorta blame the Turkish government for this bs. Bulgaria doesn't support any kind of terror group so if there was an attack there the only blame the government could burden would be the fact they couldn't prevent it. I am sorta bias though, Bulgaria is 1 of my favourite countries and Turkey seems to be getting worse and worse recently.[/QUOTE] What does this have to do with anything. Civilians have died here. People are asking why no is caring about these innocent civilians who have nothing to do with the Turkish government and you say "They are reaping what they sow" Get out of here. I don't care what you put in bold as long as you put "but..." right after. They have nothing to do with the Turkish government.

Atatürk

[QUOTE=Starpluck;50615036]What does this have to do with anything. Civilians have died here. People are asking why no is caring about these innocent civilians who have nothing to do with the Turkish government and you say "They are reaping what they sow" Get out of here. I don't care what you put in bold as long as you put "but..." right after. They have nothing to do with the Turkish government.[/QUOTE] Yeah thats why I said like I feel like a dick for saying it. Yeah sorry I'll get rid of that shit The Turkish government need to do more to protect their people though.

[QUOTE=mdeceiver79;50615059]Yeah thats why I said like I feel like a dick for saying it. Yeah sorry I'll get rid of that shit The Turkish government need to do more to protect their people though.[/QUOTE] The Turkish government can't do any more to protect their people than the French or the Belgian governments I think. It's impossible to stop every attack like this. If anything being in bed with the terrorists would help prevent it.

[QUOTE=Buck.;50615082]The Turkish government can't do any more to protect their people than the French or the Belgian governments I think. It's impossible to stop every attack like this. If anything being in bed with the terrorists would help prevent it.[/QUOTE] Yeah the more I read my posts about this the more I'm ashamed. Especially since I'm jumping to the conclusion about who did it also. I'm reign myself in and stop. Sorry

[QUOTE=DJrorok;50613243]Just because you dont want immigrants in your country doesnt mean you enjoy their deaths.[/QUOTE] That post was meant to be ironic. Not to mention that I'm one of the few Brits who's all for immigrants and refugees coming here. :v:

[QUOTE=MaximLaHaxim;50614540]So people who don't know better than to do things like this deserve punishment? Not the way I think. If they knew better, then they clearly need to have their ass punished, but if they didn't then I'd much prefer they be helped in some way. Any way, other than prison/things clearly meant to "punish" them.[/QUOTE] They somehow justified killing of innocent people, which is inherently wrong and regardless of how they ended up getting to that point in a lot of people's eyes it becomes something that validates them receiving a lethal dosage of justice when they try to carry out the murders of innocents. Personally I don't fucking care what this guys background is, I find it simply too difficult to sympathize with someone willing to harm the innocent for absolutely no reason.

[QUOTE=MaximLaHaxim;50614540]So people who don't know better than to do things like this deserve punishment? Not the way I think. If they knew better, then they clearly need to have their ass punished, but if they didn't then I'd much prefer they be helped in some way. Any way, other than prison/things clearly meant to "punish" them.[/QUOTE] Go up to a terrorist preaching your love and peace stuff and I can guarantee you'd end up as another headless corpse on liveleak. There's a point that people can go to where there's no coming back from and if they are willing to bomb and shoot innocents they clearly have passed that point.

Yeah bastards that are willing to do that are mentally insane. Religious fighter are the one of the worst enemies you could have. And hope everyone recover well. Why can't Erdogan just fuck off and go to another Islamic country or some shit. He's really fucking up turkey, it went from a secular democracy till a Islamic dictatorship. There should be some kind of revolt against him.

think LBC said the injury count was over 150 now but don't quote me

From what it says on the Guardian, 2 hours ago the death count was 41, 239 wounded, with 109 of those wounded discharged from hospital [url]https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2016/jun/29/istanbul-ataturk-turkey-airport-attack-explosions-rolling-report-updates[/url] just abhorrent. it seems as though they're not even going for a political message - just pure body count