Gay teen, 14, ‘hanged from tree’ at boys’ summer camp in Iran
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[QUOTE=Meme It Up;48250652]Yes, every so often unfortunately a gay is hanged in Iran, but you guys have a systematic torture program. Glass houses, throwing stones, etc.[/QUOTE]
you're gonna have to elaborate on that. if you say prison I might have to smack you
[QUOTE=Meme It Up;48250652]Even so, we can't change the law, we tried in 2009 and were shot back into repression. Yes, every so often unfortunately a gay is hanged in Iran, but you guys have a systematic torture program. Glass houses, throwing stones, etc.[/QUOTE]
just because We Tortured Some People (TM) doesn't mean we can't talk about y'all hanging people for being gay i dunno where that's coming from
[QUOTE=butre;48250663]you're gonna have to elaborate on that. if you say prison I might have to smack you[/QUOTE]
[URL="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Senate_Intelligence_Committee_report_on_CIA_torture"]Here ya go[/URL]
Forced & Rectal feeding, Rape, Russian Roulette, Waterboarding, Putting people in boxes, Standing Sleep Deprivation, and more. The prisoners came out broken, demented, paranoid, and the worst part is 22% of them were innocent.
yeah if you read that it says they stopped after only 5 years
[QUOTE=docdo1;48246277]When you're raised with constantly being told 'gays are bad and evil and wrong', this messed up shit happens.[/QUOTE]
Fun fact about Iran. They are completely fine with Transgenders. In fact they prescribe sex changes to gay people.
Morality is strange isn't it?
[QUOTE=butre;48250703]yeah if you read that it says they stopped after only 5 years[/QUOTE]
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The "Lets laugh at the barbaric Iranians, if they were civilized they would never do anything like this." vibe I'm getting from this thread really gets my goat. I don't like my goat got, get it?
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The "Lets laugh at the barbaric Iranians, if they were civilized they would never do anything like this." vibe I'm getting from this thread really gets my goat. I don't like my goat got, get it?[/QUOTE]
Well, one is condone by what amounts to a shadowy org in the government abusing their power over very small population, rather than imposing laws on the whole populace. By numbers, US is still winning.
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The "Lets laugh at the barbaric Iranians, if they were civilized they would never do anything like this." vibe I'm getting from this thread really gets my goat. I don't like my goat got, get it?[/QUOTE]
Should differentiate between stuff done by the general populace and what the CIA/US government does in black jails and the like.
Of course this shit has the blessings of the general population but still, pointing at what America does wrong doesn't justify Iranian sins.
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The "Lets laugh at the barbaric Iranians, if they were civilized they would never do anything like this." vibe I'm getting from this thread really gets my goat. I don't like my goat got, get it?[/QUOTE]
You can both be barbaric by international standards, if that's the outcome of this argument you're looking for.
What other people do or have done, doesn't alleviate anyone from their action, even if its hypocrite.
[QUOTE=Meme It Up;48250652]Even so, we can't change the law, we tried in 2009 and were shot back into repression. Yes, every so often unfortunately a gay is hanged in Iran, but you guys have a systematic torture program. Glass houses, throwing stones, etc.[/QUOTE]
Serious question: couldn't posting stuff like that potentially get you in trouble with authorities?
Less serious question: Why is your English so British?
[QUOTE=ScumBunny;48250902]Serious question: couldn't posting stuff like that potentially get you in trouble with authorities?
Less serious question: Why is your English so British?[/QUOTE]
probably british schools
[QUOTE=gufu;48250816]Well, one is condone by what amounts to a shadowy org in the government abusing their power over very small population, rather than imposing laws on the whole populace. By numbers, US is still winning.[/QUOTE]
Sure, I guess. Nap time is approaching and I don't want to argue nationalist trivialities. Looking into the abyss and becoming the very thing I hate. Lets just agree to disagree.
I understand liking your country but arguing that it's not barbaric if you only kill people when they have anal sex... that is fucked up.
[editline]20th July 2015[/editline]
Also prescribing sex change to people for being gay. How is that justifiable? That doesn't prove your country is accepting, it just proves your doctors are completely ignorant when it comes to sexuality and gender identity being two separate things.
[QUOTE=Explosions;48246925]I thought Iran didn't have any gay people.[/QUOTE]
They're working on it.
Seriously, no matter how much despicable stuff you hear about in the news, particularly regarding discrimination, you still end up shocked by what happens next.
It is true that the world as a whole is still getting better at tackling these issues, but Jesus Christ... to see how rampant things like homophobia still are is just painful, I thought the species 'grew up'.
Tell me again how islam is a religion of peace
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[QUOTE=DoctorRictofen;48253737]Tell me again how islam is a religion of peace[/QUOTE]
Because it's only a small, minority that is extremists.:mindblown:
[QUOTE=DoctorRictofen;48253737]Tell me again how islam is a religion of peace[/QUOTE]
do we have to bring this up every time?
the problem right now is that most governments of mainly Muslim countries are corrupt and abusive to their people. No one is arguing there. However, it is a stretch to say that Islam itself is the cause of the violence, much like it is unfair to say that the KKK or westboro baptist church represents all of Christianity.
[QUOTE=da space core;48254347]do we have to bring this up every time?
the problem right now is that most governments of mainly Muslim countries are corrupt and abusive to their people. No one is arguing there. However, it is a stretch to say that Islam itself is the cause of the violence, much like it is unfair to say that the KKK or westboro baptist church represents all of Christianity.[/QUOTE]
Except that you don't see a Christian on the news, repeatedly killing a mass amount of people.
Even if you do, it is barely on a scale in comparison.
middle eastern culture as a whole is so ass backwards
[QUOTE=woolio1;48246880]Isn't homosexuality really common in Islamic youth, though? I've read that, because the women are kept separate in their society, a lot of teenage boys have sex with others.
Then again, I read that on Vice... So...[/QUOTE]
according to them, if you're on top, you're not gay but if you're on the bottom, you're gay. If balls touch, both people are gay
[QUOTE=DoctorRictofen;48253737]Tell me again how islam is a religion of peace[/QUOTE]
There is no such thing as religion of peace.
[QUOTE=SatansSin;48254426]Except that you don't see a Christian on the news, repeatedly killing a mass amount of people.
Even if you do, it is barely on a scale in comparison.[/QUOTE]
Many mass killers have professed to be Christians. In my opinion religions don't cause psychopathic or genocidal behaviour, they are merely used as excuses for it by some ruthless and amoral individuals.
[QUOTE=Meme It Up;48250652]Even so, we can't change the law, we tried in 2009 and were shot back into repression. Yes, every so often unfortunately a gay is hanged in Iran, but you guys have a systematic torture program. Glass houses, throwing stones, etc.[/QUOTE]
Hahaha, oh jesus don't give me that bullshit.
The US government doesn't fucking execute people for being gay. Don't act dumb.
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;48256357]Hahaha, oh jesus don't give me that bullshit.
The US government doesn't fucking execute people for being gay. Don't act dumb.[/QUOTE]
Neither does ours matey :^)
We execute people for sodomy. I went over this. Just being gay gets you a forced sex change. Where on earth does this myth come from that we execute gays? It only happens in the remote villages and ghettoes.
[QUOTE=Meme It Up;48257529]Neither does ours matey :^)
We execute people for sodomy. I went over this. Just being gay gets you a forced sex change. Where on earth does this myth come from that we execute gays? It only happens in the remote villages and ghettoes.[/QUOTE]
So... you kill people for having anal sex and force people to change their bodies, despite their gender self-identification.
Yeah, that's not very progressive at all. In case you have not noticed.
[QUOTE=gufu;48257672]So... you kill people for having anal sex and force people to change their bodies, despite their gender self-identification.
Yeah, that's not very progressive at all. In case you have not noticed.[/QUOTE]
It's not progressive, its fucking stupid.
When a bunch of people call your culture "ass-backwards" and "barbaric" it tends to tick you off, though. Imagine if I said mobs that riot and assault people after sports games are indicative of the barbarism of American culture. You guys call my whole culture shitty and backwards just cause of this one fucktarded thing we do cause we got Islam forced upon us some 1200 years ago, and it makes me a little bit miffed.
[QUOTE=Meme It Up;48258097]It's not progressive, its fucking stupid.
When a bunch of people call your culture "ass-backwards" and "barbaric" it tends to tick you off, though. Imagine if I said mobs that riot and assault people after sports games are indicative of the barbarism of American culture. You guys call my whole culture shitty and backwards just cause of this one fucktarded thing we do cause we got Islam forced upon us some 1200 years ago, and it makes me a little bit miffed.[/QUOTE]
It's like people can change things in their countries, instead of taking it up their arse and acting angry when someone points it out.
[editline]21st July 2015[/editline]
Also, people rioting after sports games? What are we, UK?
[QUOTE=gufu;48258126]It's like people can change things in their countries, instead of taking it up their arse and acting angry when someone points it out.
[editline]21st July 2015[/editline]
Also, people rioting after sports games? What are we, UK?[/QUOTE]
Yeh, no its not like that. We don't have any say in our laws, as long as its a requirement for the supreme leader to approve candidates for parliament and the presidency we never will.
[QUOTE=Meme It Up;48258171]Yeh, no its not like that. We don't have any say in our laws, as long as its a requirement for the supreme leader to approve candidates for parliament and the presidency we never will.[/QUOTE]
Well, either you rebel, go to shit like most of the Middle East already has, and hope you'll come out better, or sit around and mope about the conclusion of the 1979 rebelion.
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