• The Apple Chronicles: iOS found to be recording accessible cellular location data 24/7
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I want to use that app to make a map of mine, but I don't own a Mac. Any way I can do this on Windows? Edit: YES, I READ IT. I was wondering if it was possible if there was an existing script that would plot these all for windows though, that wasn't this program.
[QUOTE=DrLuke;29319770]I still have one of those old school retro vintage phones with buttons (!) and no touchscreen! Oh yes, I'm that bad.[/QUOTE] [IMG]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/100_1516.jpg[/IMG]? Here I was thinking that Google's EU wifi scanning was unprofessional. This is a bit worse than that I would say.
Doesn't nearly every phone os do this? Or at least, don't the networks record this sort of information? It's nothing new.
[QUOTE=MIPS;29321957][img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/100_1516.jpg[/img_thumb]? Here I was thinking that Google's EU wifi scanning was unprofessional. This is a bit worse than that I would say.[/QUOTE] I would give up my Android phone for one of those.
I honestly don't give a fuck, it's not like i'm going to a person's house and brutally murdering them everyday.
One bad apple ruins the whole batch
If I led an interesting life or was doing anything that would possibly be worth spying on then I might give a shit. As I am not interesting, worth spying on or important, the only thing I care about is the possibly battery loss from having it track everything. And even then, it lasts ages.
[QUOTE=Madman_Andre;29316868]Two words: Lawsuit. Oh, wait, that's one word. [I][B] Class-Action Lawsuit[/B][/I](because the hyphen makes it two, not three(I think(maybe))).[/QUOTE] Might be difficult to file one of those considering it says about this in the terms and conditions. Sure, nobody reads them, but they do apply and the users accepted them - blindly or not. [editline]20th April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=zombini;29322339]I honestly don't give a fuck, it's not like i'm going to a person's house and brutally murdering them everyday.[/QUOTE] You think Apple would give a fuck if you did?
I wonder what shitty excuse they will come up with, that the fanboys will just blindly agree with.
[QUOTE=Destroyertf;29324095]I wonder what shitty excuse they will come up with, that the fanboys will just blindly agree with.[/QUOTE] I don't think this is right as such, I just don't care about it. I would imagine that most 'fanboys' will simply not care aswell. This would only really affect famous or important people.
[QUOTE=Destroyertf;29324095]I wonder what shitty excuse they will come up with, that the fanboys will just blindly agree with.[/QUOTE] It's really just a script for the [b]SHINY NEW FEATURE[/b]™.
if it's a python file converting it to windows would probably be like 5 lines of code rewritten
Is this really new news? My girlfriend's parents have had this program for at least over a year, they used to track her to see if she was really where she said she was. They stopped using it when we started dating, but I know they can still use it if they want
This is the phone doing it by itself, without users knowing. It's not a tracking app or anything.
[QUOTE=Forumaster;29325798]This is the phone doing it by itself, without users knowing. It's not a tracking app or anything.[/QUOTE] I don't think she had an app on her phone for it, I think it was just a computer program on their mac.
[QUOTE=MIPS;29321957][img_thumb]http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/ballsandy/100_1516.jpg[/img_thumb]? Here I was thinking that Google's EU wifi scanning was unprofessional. This is a bit worse than that I would say.[/QUOTE] That's a really high quality picture for something so mundane. Also, I don't think most of us on facepunch need to worry about angry spouses (Is the plural form of spouse spousi? spouse? spouses? Seriously.) or being tracked by private detectives.
Wow, that's pretty freaky. I just ran the program. Pretty cool. It even records mobile roaming networks. ehh, just bit of a privacy concern apple... (not that it bothers me though) [editline]21st April 2011[/editline] [img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/38490/images/iphone/iPhoneTracker.png[/img] concerning :|
This is pathetic. And I bet they are going to get away with it.
[QUOTE=Destroyertf;29332934]This is pathetic. And I bet they are going to get away with it.[/QUOTE] There's nothing pathetic about it - although perpetual cell tower and wifi location caching is suspect (Android by default does up to 200 wifi records before popping off the bottom), users gave Apple the free pass when they agreed to the ToS. [editline]21st April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=cqbcat;29317854]Why would Apple include such a feature?[/QUOTE] Based on the DB, as a geolocation cache. Android has a similar feature, the only difference being the limited number of records - [url]http://netmite.com/android/mydroid/frameworks/base/location/java/com/android/internal/location/LocationCache.java[/url]. In typical Android fashion, though, I think it's trivial to switch off there.
[QUOTE=HubmaN;29337520]Based on the DB, as a geolocation cache. Android has a similar feature, the only difference being the limited number of records - [url]http://netmite.com/android/mydroid/frameworks/base/location/java/com/android/internal/location/LocationCache.java[/url]. In typical Android fashion, though, I think it's trivial to switch off there.[/QUOTE] The real issue isn't that the feature is there - It's that it's been executed so poorly. The cache is available forever, is available unencrypted, and is available on both the user's phone and their computer.
I thought everyone knew this? I was talking to a forensics cop a while ago, he told me all this and more.
The picture in the OP looks like some kind of a virus spreading across the land.
[QUOTE=Catdaemon;29338116]The real issue isn't that the feature is there - It's that it's been executed so poorly. The cache is available forever, is available unencrypted, and is available on both the user's phone and their computer.[/QUOTE] I'll talk about the three points separately. If we weren't to assume malice then a reasonable explanation for the extent of the cache would be to increase the effectiveness of the cache. There's little else to gain from indefinite extent other than the complete record of locations apart from disk space. You'd be screwed either way regardless of whether you have no encryption, or a/symmetric encryption - all the means to encrypt and decrypt would be in one place anyway. Storing it on the computer is a legitimate concern, though, and I'd sacrifice the appearance of continuity (in terms of "how well geolocation operates") that Apple likes so much for that. I think the cons outweigh the pros here. But it seems like the real issue, according to the OP, is how (on cursory inspection) your phone seems to be recording your position 24/7. The OP doesn't mention issues with implementation at all - in fact, it doesn't (or didn't) have context and chose to present it with the objective of making it look like a spurious act from Apple completely divorced of the technicalities. [editline]22nd April 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=GoldenGnome;29338376]I thought everyone knew this? I was talking to a forensics cop a while ago, he told me all this and more.[/QUOTE] I knew it as h-cells in OS 3.
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