[QUOTE=jamzzster;48518401]NSFW
[video=youtube;9cw_mB2N6Eg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cw_mB2N6Eg[/video][/QUOTE]
Not really "NSFW"
Still watched it at work
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;48518437]Not really "NSFW"
Still watched it at work[/QUOTE]
Its more because its distressing to watch
[QUOTE=Richard Simmons;48518437]Not really "NSFW"
Still watched it at work[/QUOTE]
Doesn't need to be gore to be NSFW.
[url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-34029764]The pilot is alive but in critical condition.[/url]
Horrible hearing about this on the news, Im pretty sure the same aircraft flew at Airbourne last week which is only a couple of miles down the road from this crash. Feel bad for the people watching it unfold as well as the people involved in the crash, like someone else said; anywhere but the motorway it crashed on
[editline]23rd August 2015[/editline]
[QUOTE=jamzzster;48518401]NSFW
[video=youtube;9cw_mB2N6Eg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cw_mB2N6Eg[/video][/QUOTE]
drove down that same road hundreds of times, that is bloody distressing watching that...
11 people confiremed dead, pilot fighting for life
[URL]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-34034430[/URL]
Can't embed this video but someone filmed it from the ground practically next to the crash.
NSFW guys it's pretty fucking awful seeing the moment the plane cannot pull out at the .24 / .25 mark .
[URL]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34034784[/URL]
[QUOTE=Fr3ddi3;48523142]11 people confiremed dead, pilot fighting for life
[URL]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-34034430[/URL]
Can't embed this video but someone filmed it from the ground practically next to the crash.
NSFW guys it's pretty fucking awful seeing the moment the plane cannot pull out at the .24 / .25 mark .
[URL]http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-34034784[/URL][/QUOTE]
I watched a few of the clips through BBC, and it seems that they pause/skip the part of the video at the moment the plane connects to the ground.
Why do they do this?
[QUOTE=Kool Kids Klub;48523264]I watched a few of the clips through BBC, and it seems that they pause/skip the part of the video at the moment the plane connects to the ground.
Why do they do this?[/QUOTE]
maybe the footage shows people being struck by the plane?
[QUOTE=H4ngman;48516555]Flying daring maneuvers is kind of the point of an airshow though. I'm sure he was a trained professional who has practiced this sort of thing for many years and knew what he was doing. But with such a small margin for error, it doesn't take much for an accident to occur[/QUOTE]
Apparently the pilot flew on Harriers in the RAF before and was a captain for BA. I don't know about you but I wouldn't want to live after a crashing a plane like that
[QUOTE=ottermanuk;48523345]Apparently the pilot flew on Harriers in the RAF before and was a captain for BA. I don't know about you but I wouldn't want to live after a crashing a plane like that[/QUOTE]
It's a damned old airframe. He has more than enough experience and the investigation isn't finished, he may have had a catastrophic engine failure and lost alot of speed. When you lose speed in a maneuver like that you stall out, and these Hunters aren't the best loopers at full throttle.
[QUOTE=Kool Kids Klub;48523264]I watched a few of the clips through BBC, and it seems that they pause/skip the part of the video at the moment the plane connects to the ground.
Why do they do this?[/QUOTE]
BBC won't show scenes that they deem too disturbing I think.
Actually upon seeing that footage filmed from the ground underneath, you really never see a loop done that low in any aircraft. That looks like a serious error of judgement. I mean really, I've never in my life after being to hundreds of airshows seen a loop begin execution at about 200 feet high.
You see as he nears the ground he begins rolling to the side, which probably means he was battling with the gear stick with all he could muster, and rolling to the side to give any further hope of pulling up or atleast trying to steer clear of the road. All of this footage is heart breaking.
Seeing the faraway video, it looks like a very lazy loop, like he didn't have as much response from the elevators as would be expected. Any halfway competent pilot should be able to end a loop within 100ft or so altitude of where they started it. He might have been a bit low, but the plane didn't seem to be flying properly.
[QUOTE=Enola;48523576]Actually upon seeing that footage filmed from the ground underneath, you really never see a loop done that low in any aircraft. That looks like a serious error of judgement. I mean really, I've never in my life after being to hundreds of airshows seen a loop begin execution at about 200 feet high.
You see as he nears the ground he begins rolling to the side, which probably means he was battling with the gear stick with all he could muster, and rolling to the side to give any further hope of pulling up or atleast trying to steer clear of the road. All of this footage is heart breaking.[/QUOTE]
The aircraft under optimal conditions is perfectly capable of executing a loop from 200 feet. Ruling out pilot error, there must have been either a problem with the machine or a sudden air pressure difference.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;48528063]The aircraft under optimal conditions is perfectly capable of executing a loop from 200 feet. Ruling out pilot error, there must have been either a problem with the machine or a sudden air pressure difference.[/QUOTE]
Keep in mind it is such an old airframe.
It wouldn't surprise me if 60 years of metal fatigue resulted in something shearing off. Those old jets have much shorter lifespans than prop planes from the period, they're under a lot more stress.
Part of me wishes they wouldn't fly these things anymore. There's already so few left, and historic aircraft seem to be dropping like flies lately.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;48530178]It wouldn't surprise me if 60 years of metal fatigue resulted in something shearing off. Those old jets have much shorter lifespans than prop planes from the period, they're under a lot more stress.
Part of me wishes they wouldn't fly these things anymore. There's already so few left, and historic aircraft seem to be dropping like flies lately.[/QUOTE]
I think there's actually a lot of hawker hunters left because its such a great plane
I meant old warbirds in general, but yes, Hunters have a relatively high survival rate.
[QUOTE=leontodd;48516540]Fuck, that footage is horrible. I really hope no vehicles got hit head on and the rumors are true that he was pulled from the wreckage, because it doesn't look good.[/QUOTE]
Considering 7 people are confirmed dead, he did land on top of some.
The Civil Aviation Authority grounded all Hawker Hunters :downs: It did mandate that no other vintage jets are allowed to do rolls and loops, which is fairly sensible.
[QUOTE=CatFodder;48519190][url=http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-34029764]The pilot is alive but in critical condition.[/url][/QUOTE]
I still do not understand how this is even possible
He should be incinerated
[QUOTE=Shadow801;48530929]I still do not understand how this is even possible
He should be incinerated[/QUOTE]
The tail struck the ground first, the force snapped the cockpit away from the fuselage and it rolled away from the fireball. They're designed to do that.
[QUOTE=Grenadiac;48530514]The Civil Aviation Authority grounded all Hawker Hunters :downs: It did mandate that no other vintage jets are allowed to do rolls and loops, which is fairly sensible.[/QUOTE]
And upped the minimum altitude from 500 to 1000ft
Wow. I seriously did not think the pilot rumors were true. That's amazing that he's alive.
[QUOTE=Mbbird;48531210]Wow. I seriously did not think the pilot rumors were true. That's amazing that he's alive.[/QUOTE]
It is amazing, I hope he pulls through, and injured victims can make a good recovery. Too much dark news from this.
[QUOTE=Enola;48531704]It is amazing, I hope he pulls through, and injured victims can make a good recovery. Too much dark news from this.[/QUOTE]
As much as I hope he recovers fully, it might be difficult for him afterwards if he has any recollection of the crash and the casualties involved.
It reminds me of how the Glasgow bin lorry crash panned out initially before it came to light that the driver had been hiding his medical history.
[QUOTE=Cabbalistic;48531834]As much as I hope he recovers fully, it might be difficult for him afterwards if he has any recollection of the crash and the casualties involved.
It reminds me of how the Glasgow bin lorry crash panned out initially before it came to light that the driver had been hiding his medical history.[/QUOTE]
It's probably likely he'll suffer some form of PTSD but I sincerely hope not.
As for his medical history, he's a former RAF pilot so he will have been checked rather thoroughly in the past, so nothing interesting will come to light about that.
[QUOTE=Enola;48531852]It's probably likely he'll suffer some form of PTSD but I sincerely hope not.
As for his medical history, he's a former RAF pilot so he will have been checked rather thoroughly in the past, so nothing interesting will come to light about that.[/QUOTE]
Through the lorry comments I wasn't inferring that the pilot wasn't hiding anything, I was referring more to the support and community aspects of the situation. I remember support for the lorry driver and people not blaming him believing it was just an unfortunate accident that couldn't have been avoided.
[QUOTE=Cabbalistic;48531879]Through the lorry comments I wasn't inferring that the pilot wasn't hiding anything, I was referring more to the support and community aspects of the situation. I remember support for the lorry driver and people not blaming him believing it was just an unfortunate accident that couldn't have been avoided.[/QUOTE]
Oh okay, now I understand you
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