I can finally store my porn! - Seagate brings out 6TB HDD
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I'v had a seagate barracuda fail on me in the past without warning. I sent it back and got a brand new 1TB hitachi this has been rock solid for nearly 4 years now.
[QUOTE=fishyfish777;44479540]Just sayin', but Backblaze's data has been disputed on multiple accounts.
[URL]http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/6028/dispelling-backblaze-s-hdd-reliability-myth-the-real-story-covered/index.html[/URL]
[URL]http://www.zdnet.com/trust-backblazes-drive-reliability-data-7000025575/[/URL][/QUOTE]
For the little for which anecdotal evidence is worth, me and dad used Seagate for a couple of years in several, both home and semi-business machines and it's a complete disaster. They keep failing left and right.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;44479721]For the little for which anecdotal evidence is worth, me and dad used Seagate for a couple of years in several, both home and semi-business machines and it's a complete disaster. They keep failing left and right.[/QUOTE]
IIRC, that shitty old refurbished XP mediabox prebuilt of mine had one as it's first had drive. Fucker shat the bed... some time in, can't remember the exact date but whenever it was it was still within warranty, so HP replaced it :v:.
Granted, that machine was rubbish in a lot of ways - think it spent time as someone's masturbation station; found porn on the thing once (before you ask, it was rather shitty porn) - got refurbished, sold to us at $toofuckingmuch, and we were buying bit for the thing off and on for a few years after getting it - so it might not be entirely representative of Seagate performance.
[QUOTE=Awesomecaek;44479721]For the little for which anecdotal evidence is worth, me and dad used Seagate for a couple of years in several, both home and semi-business machines and it's a complete disaster. They keep failing left and right.[/QUOTE]
Personally I've never had a single HDD fail over the years, between numerous WD, Hitachi, Fujitsu, and Seagate drives. I think there are so many variables involved in HDD failure it is really hard to water it down to there really being a "bad brand" out there. My two 3 TB seagate drives run just fine, never a hint of failure.
Somewhat along the lines of what that article says, is that the company was basically using consumer HDDs in their first gen HDD racks, (which vibrated a lot), and that the drives they purchased at the time happened to be seagates, hence the high "failure" rate. Later on they modified the design of the racks and filled those racks with different brand drives.
I think what it comes down to is that if you are running a bunch of various HDDs in the same operating conditions, I think the failure rates would be much closer than that chart earlier suggests.
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;44479584]interesting, but i still tend to see far more complaints about seagates on the internet, as well as in IRL, than from other ones.[/QUOTE]
Aye. Of the several hard drives I've bought over the years, and even some I've inherited (mostly WD's, but an assortment of Hitachi "Deathstars", Toshibas, and Maxtors) , the only one that has died on me within 3 months is a Seagate. Anecdotal at best (as its replacement has been rock solid), but the particular Barracuda series I had was extremely prone to just randomly shitting the bed within a year going by what I've seen online. Fortunately I could recover everything, so no hard feelings, but it has made me wary of buying Seagate drives.
I've got 5 3TB HDD's manufactured by seagate and more USB plug n' plays under that name. Out of everything i've owned, i had a bad batch of 2X 2TB western digitals that both died within a month and 1 small 500GB hitachi 2.5 that was at the front end of any mobile task that i required, which was respectful in how long it lasted under such handling. Maybe they're shy of a fortunate life but i have more expectation to have possibly switched to new and better capacity drives by then. The demand for better drives is getting desperate at any rate. I'm already thinking of ordering 2X 4TB westerns but this news puts an interesting twist on things... it's all price strategy in this domain and always has been.
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;44479584]interesting, but i still tend to see far more complaints about seagates on the internet, as well as in IRL, than from other ones.[/QUOTE]
I've had a Seagate for longer than I've had a WD and the former is holding up better. I guess I'm the exception.
[QUOTE=fishyfish777;44479540]Just sayin', but Backblaze's data has been disputed on multiple accounts.
[url]http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/6028/dispelling-backblaze-s-hdd-reliability-myth-the-real-story-covered/index.html[/url]
[url]http://www.zdnet.com/trust-backblazes-drive-reliability-data-7000025575/[/url][/QUOTE]
The first article doesn't make me feel that the data is wrong, just that the data may have less accuracy than the graphs imply (as well as Segate drives having a slight negative bias) but accurate enough to pick trends from the data.
The second link you gave disputes the first link, saying that Backblaze's data is still valid despite what tweak town states. They even produce a graph with Segate's older drives removed, eliminating the bias caused by the older storage casings.
The main issue is that the drives will receive more vibration then typical desktop computers and that workloads will be higher (although this will just cause the drives to fail quicker)
[QUOTE=ArcticRevrus;44479097]And you can then tighten it afterwards!
[editline]7th April 2014[/editline]
Never, porn will continue to grow at a rate higher than drive capacity. Porn is the largest unstoppable juggernaut on the planet.[/QUOTE]
In the grimdark future of 40k, there is only porn.
I have an old WD hard drive back home. It's 300GB, its the size of my foot and it needs an external power source. Even with all that stuff, its the most reliable hard drive I've ever had, boots up instantly and has never corrupted despite it being constantly used and unplugging it by accident while using it.
[QUOTE=Sgt Doom;44479404]I'm more interested in that helium-filled one by Hitachi listed in the same article. Probably expensive as fuck, though.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure it's great, if you can keep it from floating away. Ha-cha-cha.
[QUOTE=SPESSMEHREN;44479323]Maybe something like this:
[img]http://core0.staticworld.net/images/article/2014/01/backblaze-long-term-hdd-survival-rate-brand-100226260-orig.jpg[/img][/QUOTE]
holy crap that's aweful
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;44479584]interesting, but i still tend to see far more complaints about seagates on the internet, as well as in IRL, than from other ones.[/QUOTE]
Which is strange, because I've run nothing but Seagates in my machine, and I just now had one fail on me after 5 years of continuous operation according to SMART, which is to be expected I guess.
[QUOTE=Zero-Point;44483106]Which is strange, because I've run nothing but Seagates in my machine, and I just now had one fail on me after 5 years of continuous operation according to SMART, which is to be expected I guess.[/QUOTE]
Yeah but that's just an anecdote. Statistically seagates have a higher failure rate and are bound to fail earlier, also somebody out there is also bound to get a seagate that lasts 20 years.
[QUOTE=sloppy_joes;44483114]Yeah but that's just an anecdote. Statistically seagates have a higher failure rate and are bound to fail earlier, also somebody out there is also bound to get a seagate that lasts 20 years.[/QUOTE]
Considering I've owned at least 10 of them throughout my PC-building time-frame, and only one has catastrophically failed some time after its predicted life-span, then I must be the luckiest guy alive. :v:
I'm gonna go buy, like, 100 lottery tickets.
In all seriousness, I never said that Seagates were good, I just said it was strange how I somehow managed to have only one fail on me after all these years.
I guess I'm the statistical outlier here. Out of the many hard drives I've had over the years, Seagate is the one brand of drive I haven't had fail yet. And I swear, MOST failed drives I see come into the shop at work are 2.5" Hitachi's...
Edit: Take it back, I had a 120gb IDE Maxtor that was still going strong. I just quit using it, because well, its IDE.
And here i am with a 931 GB hard drive
I've almost used an entire TB of disk space and I don't even know how, so I guess we're getting to the point where we do need 6TB disks
I must have really good luck because the 40gb drive that just has my OS on it is like 8 years old and I never turn my computer off.
[QUOTE=Alxnotorious;44479045]I wonder at what point will the size of a singular harddrive overcome the amount of memory required to store all of the porn.[/QUOTE]
I believe you're referring to Zeno's paradoxes in which case the answer would be never.
the reasons for this is probably due to seagate's manufacturing standards differing more than other manufacturers, so those in england get a better product, those in germany get a shit one, etc.
IDK maybe.
[QUOTE=Wizards Court;44479447]yup, i have 2 seagate HDs, and one is nearly dead, to the point of ceasing to function at random moments, the other has some bad blocks but thankfully its still within the limit, never buying another seagate again lol, my western digital on the other hand is 6+ years old and in perfect conditions.
[url]http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/putting-hard-drive-reliability-to-the-test-shows-not-all-disks-are-equal/[/url]
[IMG]http://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/hard-disk-afr.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
fuck I have a 1tb seagate
oh god oh god
[QUOTE=J!NX;44485138]fuck I have a 1tb seagate
oh god oh god[/QUOTE]
I have 2 1TB Seagate HDD's (one hybrid), the first one I've had for more than 2 years, it never gave me problems, I just got a faster one and used the other for storage. The hybrid I've only had for a month or 2.
That's still pretty scary though.
Now I can make something out of fraps thats over a minute long!
[QUOTE=J!NX;44485138]fuck I have a 1tb seagate
oh god oh god[/QUOTE]
It took 500gb over the course of a year for mine to break down.
I remember my computer from 2003 with a 60GB HDD and thinking, 'shit, that's massive, what will I do with that?'
-snip- found it
[editline]8th April 2014[/editline]
[url]http://blog.backblaze.com/2014/01/21/what-hard-drive-should-i-buy/[/url] has the research information if anybody is curious
[QUOTE=Cabbage;44486124]I remember my computer from 2003 with a 60GB HDD and thinking, 'shit, that's massive, what will I do with that?'[/QUOTE]
I remember thinking Simcity 4 was massive because it took up a whole gig on our family computer's 40 GB HDD.
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