'Euthanize' autistic teen for being 'nuisance,' says anonymous letter - Polidicks

I didn't realise that Maddox was a Mother?

[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41902109]What are you saying? I honestly have no clue what you're advocating or what position you're arguing for. I don't think putting more emphasis on fetus screening/abortions of fetuses that possess undesirable traits punishes anyone. Honestly I know that abortions are probably not the best, but it's just a medical procedure, that's all it should be seen as, nothing emotional, just "business" if you catch my drift.[/QUOTE] I'm supporting your position, just adding the other side of the coin.

[QUOTE=OnDemand;41902163]I'm supporting your position, just adding the other side of the coin.[/QUOTE] Oh alright, I thought so but I couldn't be sure. I apologize for misunderstanding.

"DREADFULL??????? I'M PISED!!!!!! TAKE YOU RKID TO THE WOOD1!!!! MOVE!!! VAMOSE!!! SCRAM!!!" Shut up

[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41900259] No, I didn't. I'm just explaining my opinion. I'm not belittling anyone, just sharing what I see as the reality.[/QUOTE] You know those 2 aren't mutually exclusive right? Especially when what I see essentially boils down to 'support groups are escapism and don't fix anything'. [quote]but I wouldn't say that someone who is afflicted by a disorder would be a very good person to get your opinions from[/quote] Did they invent something that can look inside my head and understand me better than myself when I wasn't looking?

[QUOTE=Zeke129;41898629]Can't be as bad as the sound of exclamation point overuse[/QUOTE] [i]SCRAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/i]

I can definitely understand people complaining about noises, because everyone does. And I can understand that certain people with short fuse may write threats like that. What I can not understand, is how some Facepunch users in here can sit behind the computer screen, and advocated the euthanization of handicapped children. I'm not talking about aborts, but statements like this: [QUOTE=FinalHunter;41899779]Dude, I'm not proposing we kill [B]anyone older than like a year[/B], and preferably not even that.[/QUOTE] I really hope you understand how sick it sounds. You're supporting the murder of children. [editline]20th August 2013[/editline] And who are we to decide the life over another human being? If they are content, they are content.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;41898837]Lots of noises that happen outside are annoying to me but I don't turn into hitler over them The worst noise ever is the bass from music being played inside a car, but I don't advocate euthanization when I hear it[/QUOTE] but the bass being played from a car isn't every day for extended periods of time. I think she's more pissed at the fact that she has to deal with this noise (whatever it is) constantly almost every day. I know I'd be pissed if I had to listen to loud wailing and screaming all day, my neighbour had loud ass chickens once and they were annoying as hell, especially if I was already angry about something. I still have no idea why she sent that letter. She could have politely approached the woman instead of anonymously being a cunt but whatever.

I can see why she would be so pissed. I can only imagine that hearing the creepy noises that kid makes every single day can really fuck with you. But the euthanizing part is way over the line of decency.

I understand the Woman's irritation if the sound is often and annoying enough, but the way she worded this letter is, well, childish.

[QUOTE=Sir Whoopsalot;41902383]You know those 2 aren't mutually exclusive right? Especially when what I see essentially boils down to 'support groups are escapism and don't fix anything'. Did they invent something that can look inside my head and understand me better than myself when I wasn't looking?[/QUOTE] Here's an example, autistic people understand autism the best, but would they be supportive of aborting fetuses proven to develop autism? If no then...why? Because they have bias, I guess.

can we euthanize the 'normal' children around here, they have screaming contests every day. let's donate their body parts to science!!!! god fucking damn i hate this woman

[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41902593]I don't really think that the opinion of someone directly involved is the best source of information and knowledge. We should be more objective, and while autistic people should certainly be allowed to feel comfortable in their skin, they, and anyone else really, deserve to be happy with what they are, we shouldn't lie to ourselves. Autism is bad.[/QUOTE] thanks prof. obvious i didn't know that the opinion of people directly involved is very much important, why would you think otherwise being 'objective' doesn't always end up in the best results for everyone. it's not like a public opinion is any less subjective than one which is directly involved, lol. [editline]20th August 2013[/editline] sorry but if you legitimately think locking your child up in a sound proof room is a way to fix other people in neighbourhoods being annoyed way too fucking easily then i hope you never become a parent

[QUOTE=bisousbisous;41898695]Severely autistic kids should not integrate with "normal" kids. It can only lead to problems, such as this.[/QUOTE] Why not teach 'normal' children to adapt to their society to help others and accept them, and then these 'none normal' people wouldn't be a problem for them. They're not like a regular problem, the reason why people don't like them having them close-by is because they either don't understand them or can't handle them.

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;41902639]So its cool if i let my 2 year old scream like a banshe outside your house? I mean he doesn't have a concept of volume yet, and it's just happy sounds, so that makes it all better right?[/QUOTE] kids do that outside my house anyway :^) if you have a problem with a child making noise off your property then maybe you should just tell the parent to stop them from screaming. locking them up in a sound proof room is fucking terrible and i'm shocked anyone would ever advocate that. autistic people are still people

[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;41902616]thanks prof. obvious i didn't know that the opinion of people directly involved is very much important, why would you think otherwise being 'objective' doesn't always end up in the best results for everyone. it's not like a public opinion is any less subjective than one which is dreictly involved, lol. [editline]20th August 2013[/editline] sorry but if you legitimately think locking your child up in a sound proof room is a way to fix other people in neighbourhoods being annoyed way too fucking easily then i hope you never become a parent[/QUOTE] Why should the neighbors have to deal with it? If you knew that autism sucks then you would come to terms with that the situation is terrible no matter which way we look, the neighbors have every reason to be annoyed, and I feel like they should be allowed to query for it to stop. The autistic child is not to be blamed, but that doesn't change that he is being a nuisance and pissing off the neighbors. I don't see why we should abandon other people, autistic people shouldn't be allowed to subject anyone to anything just because they can't control it, that isn't fair.

let's lock up any noisy child ever it'll get rid of the problem real quick!

[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;41902648]kids do that outside my house anyway :^) if you have a problem with a child making noise off your property then maybe you should just tell the parent to stop them from screaming. locking them up in a sound proof room is fucking terrible and i'm shocked anyone would ever advocate that. autistic people are still people[/QUOTE] Acting like your opinion on loud noises means anything is hilarious, right now you're certainly willing to act like it doesn't bother you, but when you aren't attempting to argue for a point you wouldn't be so tolerant.

[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41902650] I don't see why we should abandon other people, autistic people shouldn't be allowed to subject anyone to anything just because they can't control it, that isn't fair.[/QUOTE] wooooow those autistic people can't really tell they're annoying people. you should put yourself in their shoes for once. it's a lot more complicated than you think asking the parents to keep them a little more quiet or take them inside for a while is reasonable asking to lock them up in a sound proofed room is NOT

[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;41902653]let's lock up any noisy child ever it'll get rid of the problem real quick![/QUOTE] Obviously neighbors should just deal with it, right? Do you not understand that you're essentially saying that the neighbors should just deal with some kid screaming at the top of his lungs for no reason whatsoever constantly?

[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41902654]Acting like your opinion on loud noises means anything is hilarious, right now you're certainly willing to act like it doesn't bother you, but when you aren't attempting to argue for a point you wouldn't be so tolerant.[/QUOTE] what are you even implying here? that my opinion doesn't matter because it's different from yours? me and my family deal with noisy children all the time. autistic people [I]are[/I] able to be kept quiet, it just takes good parenting, not fucking locking them up or euthanizing them.

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;41902669]They cant, but their parents can, and as such should help to mitigate the problem.[/QUOTE] certainly not with your bullshit method of sound proofing, lol. containment is not good parenting

[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;41902658]wooooow those autistic people can't really tell they're annoying people. you should put yourself in their shoes for once. it's a lot more complicated than you think asking the parents to keep them a little more quiet or take them inside for a while is reasonable asking to lock them up in a sound proofed room is NOT[/QUOTE] I'm sorry but you really aren't listening, I don't care if it isn't his fault, no one ever said it was, no one is blaming the kid at all. However, that doesn't mean that he isn't a nuisance, and that the neighbors shouldn't be able to complain about it.

[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41902681]I'm sorry but you really aren't listening, I don't care if it isn't his fault, no one ever said it was, no one is blaming the kid at all. However, that doesn't mean that he isn't a nuisance, and that the neighbors shouldn't be able to complain about it.[/QUOTE] the woman in the OP is not complaining in the slightest. she's advocating death of a child with a mental illness. parents kindly asking is how you go about it, not like this. dealing with autistic children is [I]hard[/I], i wouldn't blame the parents too much for letting the child go outside for a while every day.

[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;41902680]certainly not with your bullshit method of sound proofing, lol. containment is not good parenting[/QUOTE] What do you even think is wrong with sound proofing? How does sound proofing even get done? It seems like you're implying that everyone who is for sound proofing wants him locked up in a padded room. [editline]20th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=FlubberNugget;41902696]the woman in the OP is not complaining in the slightest. she's advocating death of a child with a mental illness. parents kindly asking is how you go about it, not like this. dealing with autistic children is [I]hard[/I], i wouldn't blame the parents too much for letting the child go outside for a while every day.[/QUOTE] Well yeah, woman fucking sucks, but we're arguing more generally, are we not?

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;41902685]You're right, its better to just let him out, and let him scream, because people can just deal with it.[/QUOTE] believe it or not, there aren't many autistic people that scream literally 24/7. they still have mental functions, they can be taught not to be so noisy. it takes effort, but that effort should be put ahead of putting them in what is basically a cell. [editline]20th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41902701]What do you even think is wrong with sound proofing? How does sound proofing even get done? It seems like you're implying that everyone who is for sound proofing wants him locked up in a padded room. [/QUOTE] sound proofing is not effective if it isn't literally all over the place, it's not that easy.

[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;41902707]believe it or not, there aren't many autistic people that scream literally 24/7. they still have mental functions, they can be taught not to be so noisy. it takes effort, but that effort should be put ahead of putting them in what is basically a cell. [editline]20th August 2013[/editline] sound proofing is not effective if it isn't literally all over the place, it's not that easy.[/QUOTE] I figure if they just sound proofed the rooms he typically is in then everything would be fine. He probably wouldn't even notice, so no harm no foul.

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;41902719]I would. If you can't hack it then give it to those who can. Putting the problem on the neighbors is not a way to go about it at all.[/QUOTE] try putting yourself in a parent's shoes before you make claims like that. you're seriously undermining how hard it is to look after autistic people 24/7 and you make it seem to easy to just give children away, lol. people are fucked over constantly because they can't afford to look after their kids. they can't go back on their decision to have a child, and that child having a severe mental disorder only makes it more stressful

[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;41902723]try putting yourself in a parent's shoes before you make claims like that. you're seriously undermining how hard it is to look after autistic people 24/7[/QUOTE] Understandable, but they shouldn't expect to be able to let their kid scream their lungs off in a neighborhood, that's simply extremely selfish. And no, I don't think it's selfish to expect the parents to deal with their kid, that's their job, that's any parents job, to take care of their kid.

Damn, she went full retard