'Euthanize' autistic teen for being 'nuisance,' says anonymous letter - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Warship;41904629]Maybe she was really drunk and pissed off when she wrote the letter and is actually a nice person [img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/rainbow.png[/img][/QUOTE] Hitler was also drunk

[QUOTE=Jocke;41904852]Hitler was also drunk[/QUOTE] No, he was just high off all those gasses

I feel like the lady behind the letter was just having a really bad day and sort of decided to give her thoughts on whatever she felt even remotely annoying at the time, telling by the writing

Jesus christ on a crutch, I can't believe some of the people posting in this thread support murdering a kid, it's not like they're suffering from a debilitating disease that causes pain day in, day out, goddamn morons.

so am i the only one that thinks this is fake i mean, it was submitted anonymously and the person says 'this is real' in their original post which is usually a pretty clear indicator that it actually is not real if it was at all realistic or a plausible thing for any living human being to type onto a page and then print out (both the formatting and the actual message itself) then you wouldn't need to say that [editline]e[/editline] unless they found the person who did it, in which case comment redacted

''I hate people talking constantly while i'm trying to watch the movie!!!!!! LET'S KILL THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!''

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41905016] Everyone talks about being moral and doing the right thing. Well how can you advocate a family having a severely retarded child? First off there is a large financial burden on not only the family but on the state, and secondly there is a large emotional burden on the family. As stated in the letter, that individual cannot work. Who is going to take care of him once his parents are gone? Who would want to? [/QUOTE] what the fuck are you saying, nobody chooses what mental illnesses their child has [editline]20th August 2013[/editline] are we really going to put money above human rights here? what the hell

it's cool and all that there are ways to prevent children being born with mental illnesses, but that's not always the case. not everywhere has screening before birth and while that's sad, it's true. it's no excuse for saying you choose. [editline]20th August 2013[/editline] which is blatantly wrong

and while a lot of autistic children may have a lower quality of lfie due to their illness, they aren't all in excruciating pain all the time. they [I]do[/I] actually have a life they have the chance to enjoy. [editline]20th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=FinalHunter;41905313]I don't even understand what you're trying to say.[/QUOTE] that you're not actually backing up what you say i say people don't choose what illnesses their child has, you say screening should be increased. Ok, but that won't stop children with mental illnesses being born without parental knowledge. are you trying to say we should euthanize the children that do?

I'm not sure on the context of how 'loud' this autistic child can be. Having worked with severely autistic children for a while I understand how irritating and loud their screaming and shouting can be, children without special needs are hard as it is when it comes to shouting/screaming. I can imagine if it was every day in a neighbourhood then you would become very, very frustrated and irritable which explains the cruel and poorly written letter. There's something in the UK law called noise pollution, and - in this context - a child constantly screaming very loudly constantly, irritating the neighbours and stopping them from sleeping or relaxing, then it would under law be classified as pollution and the police would have to step in to do something. The letter is very offensive though, really cruel, immature and petty. Clearly written by a person on the end of their tether. Like I said though, do we know how loud the kid was being? It must of been very loud and disruptive compared to a none autistic childs shouting and screaming if others live in the area, and also very consistent.

[QUOTE=MaikkiBoi;41904943]I feel like the lady behind the letter was just having a really bad day and sort of decided to give her thoughts on whatever she felt even remotely annoying at the time, telling by the writing[/QUOTE] No, no, no, SHE'S WORSE THAN HITLER RARRARARAR [sp]yes, that was a piss take[/sp] Anyone who genuinely believes this this woman actually wants the child to die, clearly has no concept of someone being pissed off. People say things they don't mean in order to hurt the person they're angry with.

[QUOTE=Sgt-NiallR;41905413] Anyone who genuinely believes this this woman actually wants the child to die, clearly has no concept of someone being pissed off. People say things they don't mean in order to hurt the person they're angry with.[/QUOTE] with the level of immaturity present in the letter i wouldn't think she's far off it's alright to get a bit annoyed if it's constant, but not this. ever

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41905313]I don't even understand what you're trying to say.[/QUOTE] I've been working with handicapped children for 2 years. Helping them becoming more socialized amongst others and teach them how to do basic stuff. You have no idea how rare it is to find someone who barely can talk at all. It's was my duty to talk to those children and help them, they told everything to me. I had no right to tell their parents about it unless they wanted me to. None of them ever said that they would choose another life or end theirs, it actully made them feel proud for the way they have to live, more responsibillity and pain than 'normal' children. They sometimes felt to be more above the others because they could handle it. How would you feel if society wanted to take your life because you took a few small coins from your wallet that makes alot difference for children in need of help? I find it heartless, we're a specie that lives in the herd. Instead you want to spend tons of of tax money on other subjects that can collapse a whole country's economy even when it's a waste of time, you want to kill a human being without giving it a chance.

[QUOTE=Kai-ryuu;41903090]jesus christ this thread's a fucking disgrace and idiots like lambda and the morons that are protecting this dumb bitch are even worse.[/QUOTE] um wow nobody is protecting the woman. Here's some evidence which you obviously glossed over in your holier-than-thou march into this thread [quote]Well yeah, woman fucking sucks[/quote] Haven't seen a single person arguing for this woman. They're debating generally about whether a (more eloquently worded) complaint would be fair to make or not.

[QUOTE=Zotobom;41905127]''I hate people talking constantly while i'm trying to watch the movie!!!!!! LET'S KILL THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!''[/QUOTE] Those people can control when they talk and should get kicked out of the theater.

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41905809]It made you feel proud that they had a harder life and were in more pain than normal children and dealt with it? At the age of 15 I was diagnosed with dysthymia, which is chronic depression. Are you proud of me as well? Do you think that is something I would wish on any child? It's not. They might not want to kill themselves and they might say they like being who they are, but they'd be a hell of a lot happier without their respective conditions. In my mind there is no harm in aborting a child or euthanizing a one week old to potentially prevent what could be a miserable life.[/QUOTE] I never said I was proud, they were. And you keep telling me you did not wanted to end your life. You're not really backing up your statement. And why the hell would I think you would wish to have Dysthymia?

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41905949]I never said I didn't want to end my life. You're not reading my post correctly. Why would you knowingly raise a child from birth with a condition far worse than dysthymia, when there is an alternative which in my mind is much more merciful?[/QUOTE] You said we should end the life of those children that had horrible handicapps, and so is Dysthymia. All the children I've been working with were allways happy and loved doing the stuff they could do, why just end their life as fast as we notice it? You're generalising people and don't give them a chance. And why do you think I started working with this, I had alot of stuff myself in young age. And don't come and say that I read your post incorrectly when you're doing the same.

ahahahaha what a bitch what if one of her kids were autistic?

[QUOTE=Corewarp3;41898867]You can all sit there and be 'holier than thou' types. But my family has been visited by my mother's sister every summer consistently. She has an autistic as fuck son who wakes me(And everyone else) up by screaming at the top of his lungs, for no apparent reason. My mother's sister does NOTHING to shut him up. This summer, my mother's sister did not visit us after my father finally got fed up and told the dumb bitch to say home with her fucked up son. So yeah, sit there and be holy and 'civilized' but you haven't been terrorized by a fucked up and useless human being who you cannot do anything to physically or verbally, lest you antagonize everyone else for being 'intolerant'.[/QUOTE]"fucked up and useless human being" Ho wow there's something wrong with your head.

Jesus Christ you lot are just as sick as this woman. Who the fuck are you to deny another human being their right to live, just because they were born with something they can't do anything about?

[QUOTE=Slowbro;41906311]Jesus Christ you lot are just as sick as this woman. Who the fuck are you to deny another human being their right to live, just because they were born with something they can't do anything about?[/QUOTE]There's a lot of dumb and sick people on this forum like FinalHunter [QUOTE=FinalHunter;41905949]I never said I didn't want to end my life. You're not reading my post correctly. Why would you knowingly raise a child from birth with a condition far worse than dysthymia, when there is an alternative which in my mind is much more merciful?[/QUOTE]It's so incredibly easy to say something like this when it isn't your child. Have a child who is severaly austitic then come back to me. Would you euthanize them? Would you call them annoying and useless?

[QUOTE=Slowbro;41906311]Jesus Christ you lot are just as sick as this woman. Who the fuck are you to deny another human being their right to live, just because they were born with something they can't do anything about?[/QUOTE] welcome to sensationalist headlines

if we instate any sort of eugenics program, the people who should be put in camps are sociopaths like lambadvanced

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41906645]You haven't made a single intelligent post in this entire thread. All you've done is insult other users and question their mentality. Where exactly is your credibility again?[/QUOTE] hey bro just becuase you have some victim complex about your self-diagnosed depression doesn't mean you can go around insulting autistic people. [quote]children who cannot do anything but make noises and drool...[/quote] [quote]I made a comprehensive presentation on the economic, social, and health(for their parents) benefits of euthanizing the severely mentally retarded but no one is going to take her seriously by approaching the problem in this manner.[/quote]

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41906750]I like how you've tried to add something that isn't just name calling after I called you out on it. And no, I'm not having children because I don't think I'd be a good parent. At least I'm being responsible about it. For the sake of consistency though, and so you can call me a "sick and stupid" individual one more time, yes I'd rather euthanize them. I'd also rather be euthanized myself than live with a condition such as theirs.[/QUOTE] i think you should be euthanized.

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41906645]You haven't made a single intelligent post in this entire thread. All you've done is insult other users and question their mentality. Where exactly is your credibility again?[/QUOTE]If you're going to advocate euthanizing children because of a disease that they can't control I really don't care

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41906783]Have you read any of my posts whatsoever? I've sited studies done for the Department of Education and I'm referencing material from a man with a Ph.D in Biology studying the effects of stress imparted by raising mentally retarded children. And trying to make it personal about my "self-diagnosed depression" doesn't make you look any better either. I'm not fourteen years old like you, I actually went to the doctor. Making a personal attack like that far lower than I'd ever sink anyways.[/QUOTE] i'm sorry dude but i really don't care to be civil towards some eugenics loving 15 year old with delusions of grandeur who wants to kill children. [editline]20th August 2013[/editline] please take your "straight facts" and "statistics" and shove them up your sociopathic ass

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41906861]Yes, I'm clearly 15 years old, and I've been on Facepunch since I was 11. That makes perfect sense. Your complete inability to have a civil and completely hypothetical discussion is concerning, and blatantly telling another user he should be euthanized sounds dangerously close to banworthy.[/QUOTE] i may say you should be euthanized; but i'm not the one advocating for thousands of children, teenagers and adults to be. also i don't really care for hiding my contempt and emotions in a debate with literal human scum. (yourself)

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41906861]Yes, I'm clearly 15 years old, and I've been on Facepunch since I was 11. That makes perfect sense. Your complete inability to have a civil and completely hypothetical discussion is concerning, and blatantly telling another user he should be euthanized sounds dangerously close to banworthy.[/QUOTE] Are you seriously trying to take the moral high ground

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41906861]Yes, I'm clearly 15 years old, and I've been on Facepunch since I was 11. That makes perfect sense. Your complete inability to have a civil and completely hypothetical discussion is concerning, and blatantly telling another user he should be euthanized sounds dangerously close to banworthy.[/QUOTE]And the fact that you advocate euthanizing autistic children isn't concerning?