'Euthanize' autistic teen for being 'nuisance,' says anonymous letter - Polidicks

[QUOTE=pfoot;41906811]i'm sorry dude but i really don't care to be civil towards some eugenics loving 15 year old with delusions of grandeur who wants to kill children. [editline]20th August 2013[/editline] please take your "straight facts" and "statistics" and shove them up your sociopathic ass[/QUOTE] This is honestly a disgusting way of arguing, instead of actually arguing with him you simply attempt to insult him and call him names to discredit him. I'm appalled, really I am.

bbut he's not a sociopath he has biotruths!!

[QUOTE=Slowbro;41906909]Are you seriously trying to take the moral high ground[/QUOTE] Are you really trying to imply that your position is in some way objectively the morally correct path? He isn't meaning to be evil, you are just looking at him that way because you aren't even trying to understand his point. In his opinion, eugenics is a blessing, this is a difference in interpretation, and is critical in this argument occurring at all, and is pivotal in all the extreme aggression you guys for some reason showcase against him. Why are you guys attempting to demean him rather than argue him? This is seriously a really embarrassing thing to read. Of course, people will just support you guys, and I'll be flamed for saying this, but I really don't understand why people like you guys argue this way.

[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41906944]This is honestly a disgusting way of arguing, instead of actually arguing with him you simply attempt to insult him and call him names to discredit him. I'm appalled, really I am.[/QUOTE] lmao did i hurt your little "debate" feelings dude? you know what's disgusting? your viewpoints, your delusional world view where you think children should be euthanized. you are an appalling trash heap of a human being there is no reason to be civil with cro-magnon fuckin neo nazi mongoloids. [editline]20th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41906974]eugenics is a blessing[/QUOTE] [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Flaming" - Swebonny))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=pfoot;41906896]also i don't really care for hiding my contempt and emotions in a debate with literal human scum. (yourself)[/QUOTE] Wow, all this for disagreeing with you.

this is a vidoe game centered forum, not a highly intelligent center for unbiased debate you're a prime example of that being the case

Severely Disabled people should not be euthanized, it sickens me as too a disabled person to the core that people would seriously suggest that course of action. Instead we should be focusing and as a matter of fact pressuring the government on improving provision of things such as respite which gives the parents a break from caring for the person.

[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41906985]Wow, all this for disagreeing with you.[/QUOTE] no, more for advocating genocide.

[QUOTE=pfoot;41906976]lmao did i hurt your little "debate" feelings dude? you know what's disgusting? your viewpoints, your delusional world view where you think children should be euthanized. you are an appalling trash heap of a human being there is no reason to be civil with cro-magnon fuckin neo nazi mongoloids. [editline]20th August 2013[/editline][/QUOTE] You're taking my quote out of context, I'm attempting to explain that in his opinion eugenics is a good thing, thus dispelling your guys's belief that he is a murderous psychopath. What are you even fucking talking about? Why are you accusing me of all these things when I have literally not even said anything in agreement/disagreement with anyone? Seriously, you just JUMPED on me with that, I can't believe that this is happening right now.

i'm crying, someone called me dumb on the internet ;( seriously get over yourself, people present their dumb bigoted opinions in childish manners all the time. we tried civilized debate, nobody wanted to listen. you just wanted to end it and take the last word

[QUOTE=pfoot;41907005]no, more for advocating genocide.[/QUOTE] He's not advocating genocide, which is something you fail to understand, he's advocating prenatal screenings and abortions of fetuses, I personally disagree with euthanizing babies that have been born, but that's just his opinion, and he's welcome to have it. How can he be advocating genocide against non-humans (fetuses[don't take my quote out of context]) [editline]20th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Genericenemy;41907001]Severely Disabled people should not be euthanized, it sickens me as too a disabled person to the core that people would seriously suggest that course of action. Instead we should be focusing and as a matter of fact pressuring the government on improving provision of things such as respite which gives the parents a break from caring for the person.[/QUOTE] I don't think anyone here is arguing that euthanizing living people is a good thing, the only people attempting to make that seem like the issue is pfoot and crew in an effort to discredit everyone who disagrees with them. We're just talking about aborting fetuses with afflictions, I don't think that's terrible, do you? I honestly want to know.

[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41906974]Are you really trying to imply that your position is in some way objectively the morally correct path? He isn't meaning to be evil, you are just looking at him that way because you aren't even trying to understand his point. In his opinion, eugenics is a blessing, this is a difference in interpretation, and is critical in this argument occurring at all, and is pivotal in all the extreme aggression you guys for some reason showcase against him. Why are you guys attempting to demean him rather than argue him? This is seriously a really embarrassing thing to read. Of course, people will just support you guys, and I'll be flamed for saying this, but I really don't understand why people like you guys argue this way.[/QUOTE]Why do you think just because it's someone's opinion that it's ok to say and shouldn't be questioned? This is like the "pizza owner masturbates in kitchen thread" where you kept defending Iago saying it was ok to masturbate in the kitchen because it was his opinion. I mean yeah I get it opinions are opinions and everyone as them, but don't we as humans decide which opinions are ok for society to hold to and which aren't? [QUOTE=FinalHunter;41907064]Are YOU autistic?[/QUOTE]Wow you really went there

[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41906985]Wow, all this for disagreeing with you.[/QUOTE] worse than dainbramagestudios

[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41907032] [editline]20th August 2013[/editline] I don't think anyone here is arguing that euthanizing living people is a good thing, the only people attempting to make that seem like the issue is pfoot and crew in an effort to discredit everyone who disagrees with them. We're just talking about aborting fetuses with afflictions, I don't think that's terrible, do you? I honestly want to know.[/QUOTE] Not really, because as a disabled person it terrifies the living shit out of me the possibility that I could of been aborted because of what I would of been born with.

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41907090]So you can say it's perfectly alright to question people's opinions while you support the guy who is telling me I deserve to be shot after making false accusations and completely neglecting to correctly portray what I've been saying. Seriously? So it's alright to question my opinion, but I can't question yours?[/QUOTE] nobody said you can't. we're saying you can't expect people to not call you out for having such a shitty and controversial opinion

[QUOTE=Killer900;41907067]Why do you think just because it's someone's opinion that it's ok to say and shouldn't be questioned? This is like the "pizza owner masturbates in kitchen thread" where you kept defending Iago saying it was ok to masturbate in the kitchen because it was his opinion. I mean yeah I get it opinions are opinions and everyone as them, but don't we as humans decide which opinions are ok for society to hold to and which aren't?[/QUOTE] Why isn't his opinion okay to say? It should be questioned, sure, but you guys aren't questioning it in any capacity. He has explained time and time again his position and you guys just continue to discredit, insult, demean, etc him. I'm not on anyone's side of the argument, but I'm honestly peeved by the way you guys are treating him, this is just unbelievable. This is the fucking problem with humanity, I'm coming to realize it now, no one is ever going to change their mind because they're already so entrenched in their own opinion that no other interpretation is allowed to them. It's ridiculous. At the end of the day all arguments can ever end at is either complete agreement (unlikely) or agreeing to disagree, because that's as far as we're gonna get.

[QUOTE=_jesterk;41907082]worse than dainbramagestudios[/QUOTE]I don't know, Dain once said the Japanese sex slavery in WW2 was morally justified.

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41907064]Are YOU autistic?[/QUOTE] this is how you "debate" is it?

[QUOTE=_jesterk;41907082]worse than dainbramagestudios[/QUOTE] You are even proving me right, instead of actually arguing with what I'm saying, you're just insulting me, attempting to discredit me. Why is this shit allowed? Holy fuck.

[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41907141]You are even proving me right, instead of actually arguing with what I'm saying, you're just insulting me, attempting to discredit me. Why is this shit allowed? Holy fuck.[/QUOTE] because everything you say is meaningless garble

[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41907141]You are even proving me right, instead of actually arguing with what I'm saying, you're just insulting me, attempting to discredit me. Why is this shit allowed? Holy fuck.[/QUOTE] why do you expect anything else when almost everyone thinks your opinion is seriously harmful? if you can find a way to prove to us that you are on the high ground here then go ahead. because you definitely haven't been doing it. in your eyes you are literally the fucking messiah of debating or some shit

[QUOTE=pfoot;41907150]because everything you say is meaningless garble[/QUOTE] No...it isn't, dude what the hell? How can you say that without understanding how ridiculous you're being? How can you say that all my arguments against the way you're acting are "meaningless garble", that's really worrying. [editline]20th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=FlubberNugget;41907159]why do you expect anything else when almost everyone thinks your opinion is seriously harmful?[/QUOTE] What opinion, please explain to me what opinion I have shared in the last 2 pages, because that's all I'm dealing with right now. I'm being straight forward with you right now. How is aborting fetuses with ailments harmful?

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41907184]So you object to that, but this is perfectly okay He can say whatever he like because his opinion is the same as yours, but I can't make a perfectly scientific insult linking his faulty social interaction to autism. Dude, fuck off with your double standards. I've tried to debate the last 7 pages, and some people have been civil and reasonable about it and for that I respect them. We had differing opinions, we sorted it out, and agreed to disagree. You three(or four, however many of you trolls have crawled out from under the bridge), won't even attempt to understand my opinions, you just want to call me a monster and an idiot.[/QUOTE] I think it would be best to presume they're all trolling at this point. They aren't attempting to have a serious argument, and they never have, and they never intend to. If anyone wants to argue this further, add me on Steam. That's really all I've got, I'm not going to let the thread get infinitely terrible with this mob snowball going downhill as it is. All they want to do is insult people infinitely, I don't know why that is, maybe it's just the heat of the moment, or perhaps they're consciously trolling, but no matter how I look at this, this is unacceptable behavior. I'm sorry, I really am. I hope that someone can understand where I'm coming from.

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41907090]So you can say it's perfectly alright to question people's opinions [B]while you support the guy who is telling me I deserve to be shot after making false accusations and completely neglecting to correctly portray what I've been saying.[/B] Seriously? So it's alright to question my opinion, but I can't question yours?[/QUOTE]When did I ever do that. you're slippin

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41907184]So you object to that, but this is perfectly okay He can say whatever he like because his opinion is the same as yours, but I can't make a perfectly scientific insult linking his faulty social interaction to autism. Dude, fuck off with your double standards. I've tried to debate the last 7 pages, and some people have been civil and reasonable about it and for that I respect them. We had differing opinions, we sorted it out, and agreed to disagree. You three(or four, however many of you trolls have crawled out from under the bridge), won't even attempt to understand my opinions, you just want to call me a monster and an idiot.[/QUOTE] those aren't double standards whichever way you look at it. you know, people do tend to support people they agree with. if you're gonna go ahead and make yourself look like a tool you can't expect anything else. the 'debating' you have done is not worth shit, so stop acting like it is

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41907184]So you object to that, but this is perfectly okay He can say whatever he like because his opinion is the same as yours, but I can't make a perfectly scientific insult linking his faulty social interaction to autism. Dude, fuck off with your double standards. I've tried to debate the last 7 pages, and some people have been civil and reasonable about it and for that I respect them. We had differing opinions, we sorted it out, and agreed to disagree. You three(or four, however many of you trolls have crawled out from under the bridge), won't even attempt to understand my opinions, you just want to call me a monster and an idiot.[/QUOTE] When the fuck did I say I agreed with that comment? You are literally just pulling shit out your ass at this point.

[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41907121]Why isn't his opinion okay to say? It should be questioned, sure, but you guys aren't questioning it in any capacity. He has explained time and time again his position and you guys just continue to discredit, insult, demean, etc him. I'm not on anyone's side of the argument, but I'm honestly peeved by the way you guys are treating him, this is just unbelievable. This is the fucking problem with humanity, I'm coming to realize it now, no one is ever going to change their mind because they're already so entrenched in their own opinion that no other interpretation is allowed to them. It's ridiculous. At the end of the day all arguments can ever end at is either complete agreement (unlikely) or agreeing to disagree, because that's as far as we're gonna get.[/QUOTE]Maybe because there really isn't any need to give credit to ideas like euthanizing fetuses because they may have a genetic disease they can't control or thinking that it's ok to masturbate in a kitchen before serving customers food. There's a reason a lot of people act negatively towards those ways of thinking. [QUOTE=FinalHunter;41907184] You three(or four, however many of you trolls have crawled out from under the bridge), won't even attempt to understand my opinions, you just want to call me a monster and an idiot.[/QUOTE]You're seriously pulling out the troll card?

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41907249]So the studies done for the Department of Education and the facts presented by a man with a doctorate in Biology on the health detriments of caring for a mentally retarded child isn't worth shit. I'd like to see you tell that man that. - Mentally Retarded children cost more to care for. FACT. - Caring for a mentally retarded child is stressful and costly for their families. FACT. [/QUOTE] these facts do not mean shit. i know families that would not give up their children with severe autism for the fucking world, it's their choice to spend their own money. the state should be protecting those people instead of euthanizing them

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41907249]- Mentally Retarded children cost more to care for. FACT. - Caring for a mentally retarded child is stressful and costly for their families. FACT.[/QUOTE] You could say exactly the same for taking care of a dog, shall we euthanize puppies while we're at it?

[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;41907279]these facts do not mean shit. i know families that would not give up their children with severe autism for the fucking world, it's their choice to spend their own money. the state should be protecting those people instead of euthanizing them[/QUOTE] Do you think they'd still have their kid if they knew he'd be severely autistic? This is what we're talking about, not murder, but prevention. Abortion isn't murder, is it?