'Euthanize' autistic teen for being 'nuisance,' says anonymous letter - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Swebonny;41907658]How about [B]YOU[/B] put yourself into their shoes, or the shoes or their siblings and parents. You wouldn't want to live like that because you aren't handicapped. But how do you think a mentally handicapped person feel? Do you think they're just empty shells? Should we start killing things because we think they their life-quality is bad? How about we kill all the old people as well. Or all animals that we think aren't living life the way we want it. How about you start thinking a little bit more intelligently, and perhaps use the tiny bit of humanity that you have left. Once a person is born, it is a living being, whether it wants to continue to live or die is for that individual to make. Not the government. And not you.[/QUOTE] Look man, no one is arguing for killing people, the closest final gets to that is killing 1 week old babies, which is weird, but not even close to the same as killing an developed child/adult, etc. We are only for prenatal screenings and abortions, in the end the decision is up to the parent, and they can make the choice, but I personally think it's the right choice.

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41907616]Hell J!NX, you earned my respect in our conversation last night, because you didn't lower yourself to personal attacks, so kudos to you for that.[/QUOTE] lmao what kind of high ground are you trying to take.

[QUOTE=Swebonny;41907686]lmao what kind of high ground are you trying to take.[/QUOTE] he's covering his ears and pretending he's the victim [editline]20th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=FinalHunter;41907698]I've already discussed this. I don't condone the murder of any individual who is capable of conscious thought.[/QUOTE] please tell me, when does conscious thought start to you?

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41907718]I'm not taking the high ground. I was thanking him for not blatantly telling me I should be euthanized, which essentially [B]collapsed pfoot's argument back on itself.[/B] Good to know we're allowed to tell other users they should be killed though.[/QUOTE] no it didn't you really can't tell what satire/sarcasm is lol

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41907718]I'm not taking the high ground. I was thanking him for not blatantly telling me I should be euthanized, which essentially collapsed pfoot's argument back on itself. Good to know we're allowed to tell other users they should be killed though.[/QUOTE] No, I think it's funny because in your reply to me you urged me to "think more intelligently". I don't know but it sounds like you were implying that I'm stupid. Let's skip this fucking "debate 101" bullshit and get straight down to the point shall we?

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41907747]Because I wouldn't want to live with severe autism, and you wouldn't either. I never said you were stupid, simply that it wasn't as simple as it was sounding.[/QUOTE] you do not speak for every autist in the world, so shut up with that right now. that's incredibly rude to parents of autistic children and people with autism.

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41907698]I've already discussed this. I don't condone the murder of any individual who is capable of conscious thought.[/QUOTE] Being so heavily mentally handicapped that you're not capable of conscious though sounds more like the person being in some vegetative state. And in that case I'm pretty sure families are given the option to disconnect them from the life support machine. Which I guess is euthanasia.

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41907785]They've grown up that way. It's all they know. I've lived as a mostly healthy person("you're not mentally stable haehaehaehou"), so I have the perspective that allows me to determine I wouldn't want to struggle in the manner that they do. [editline]20th August 2013[/editline] That's because I don't want to kill any mentally handicapped people who have matured even slightly. My main focus is abortions when the condition is detected early.[/QUOTE] then why the fuck did you say up to a week old. you clearly support far more than abortion and you can't backpedal on that now by the way, you really don't seem mentally stable. you should get that victim complex checked out

[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;41907803] by the way, y[B]ou really don't seem mentally stable[/B]. you should get that victim complex checked out[/QUOTE] Flubber please.... don't do that again.

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41907832]Seriously? You finally give me a chance to try and explain to you what I mean, and then you fall back to that? I'm not some sociopathic serial killer, calm down.[/QUOTE] yeah, mental unstability means sociopathic serial killer. lol [editline]20th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Swebonny;41907834]Flubber please.... don't do that again.[/QUOTE] a'm sowwy

This thread made me break down a little.

[QUOTE=digigamer17;41907861]This thread made me break down a little.[/QUOTE] Gotta be honest, I was getting pretty anxious from all the frustrating posters just misrepresenting, ignoring, insulting, and being genuine assholes. May I suggest this thread gets locked to end this until next time?

i'm sorry everyone on the internet isn't as friendly as you would hope them to be, but that's generally not how it works lamb. if you don't want people to be assholes to you, you should stop acting as if you always have the high ground

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41907785] That's because I don't want to kill any mentally handicapped people who have matured even slightly. My main focus is abortions when the condition is detected early. The only reason I mentioned euthanizing one week old children is because some more serious conditions cannot be detected inside the womb.[/QUOTE] And some other conditions only appears far later. Where do you put the limit? Who has the final say in who to euthanize and who to spare? How do you measure someones "capability" to live? I mean, I get it, in the end what you want is to not let anyone suffer, but to do that life has to be taken, it's essentially murder. I guess it can be debated back and forth, but in my world, the best thing you can do is to make the life situation as good as you can for those with severe handicap, and hope for scientific research to find cures or make screenings much more detailed. Any kind of euthanization, unless with the permission from the victim is just wrong in my opinion. [editline]20th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=FinalHunter;41907923]We didn't do anything but state our opinions, and people got offended and overaggressive and started making personal insults about our sanity and intelligence. What else were we supposed to do?[/QUOTE] Just report them. I haven't had any reports from this thread.

[QUOTE=Swebonny;41907928] Any kind of euthanization, unless with the permission from the victim is just wrong in my opinion.[/QUOTE] without the permission it's practically murder. i think the only exception should ever be when a newborn child is in a permanent vegetative state on life support, because that child is only going to suffer in a hospital for all of it's life. (of course, only to be done with parental support)

[QUOTE=FlubberNugget;41907950] i think the only exception should ever be when a newborn child is in a permanent vegetative state on life support, because that child is only going to suffer in a hospital for all of it's life. (of course, only to be done with parental support)[/QUOTE] That's pretty normal I think.

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41907923]We didn't do anything but state our opinions, and people got offended and overaggressive and started making personal insults about our sanity and intelligence.[/QUOTE] Dude, you're advocating infanticide: [QUOTE=FinalHunter;41905809] In my mind there is no harm in aborting a child or euthanizing a one week old to potentially prevent what could be a miserable life.[/QUOTE] You're calling mentally retarded people parasites, useless and a detriment to society: [QUOTE=FinalHunter;41899010]Wait, so you're okay with euthanizing someone for being an asshole, but not a human being that can never contribute to society and is nothing but a detriment. It has been scientifically proven that the stress of caring for a severely disabled child presents health problems for their parents. These children are essentially parasites.[/QUOTE] I don't even fucking know what's up with this: [QUOTE=FinalHunter;41899556]Additionally, you cannot deny that his brother would have been freed of some great struggles and frustrations had he been aborted or euthanized soon after birth or whatever. It sounds sick, yes, I recognize that but I'm approaching this from a purely analytical point of view. [/QUOTE] You're completely oblivious to people not sharing your totally reasonable opinion and just resort to calling people who disagree with you 'moral crusaders': [QUOTE=FinalHunter;41907184] You three(or four, however many of you trolls have crawled out from under the bridge), won't even attempt to understand my opinions, you just want to call me a monster and an idiot.[/QUOTE] Honest to God, what the FUCK did you expect?

[QUOTE=Lambadvanced;41902109]What are you saying? I honestly have no clue what you're advocating or what position you're arguing for. I don't think putting more emphasis on fetus screening/abortions of fetuses that possess undesirable traits punishes anyone. Honestly I know that abortions are probably not the best, but it's just a medical procedure, that's all it should be seen as, nothing emotional, just "business" if you catch my drift.[/QUOTE] Euthanasia's just a medical procedure too. Nothing emotional, just "business"

[QUOTE=digigamer17;41907861]This thread made me break down a little.[/QUOTE] This thread's pretty fucking depressing I've been dealing with anxiety, depression, and delusionary thoughts since high school, it makes it really difficult to hold a job for more than a few months at a time and a 4+ year university degree is likely totally unattainable without having at least a couple psychotic breaks throughout My net effect on society, if a gain at all, will be a small one so I guess I should just go find a hole somewhere and crawl in so the ubermensch of facepunch can cure cancer and invent FTL space travel between their periods of being hitler jr. on the internet

[QUOTE=Irkalla;41908392]Euthanasia's just a medical procedure too. Nothing emotional, just "business"[/QUOTE] So is a hitman killing someone, so is dealing drugs to schoolchildren. Seriously what are you even trying to say

[QUOTE=Zeke129;41908523]This thread's pretty fucking depressing I've been dealing with anxiety, depression, and delusionary thoughts since high school, it makes it really difficult to hold a job for more than a few months at a time and a 4+ year university degree is likely totally unattainable without having at least a couple psychotic breaks throughout My net effect on society, if a gain at all, will be a small one so I guess I should just go find a hole somewhere and crawl in so the ubermensch of facepunch can cure cancer and invent FTL space travel between their periods of being hitler jr. on the internet[/QUOTE] get adblock and block the thread title before you have depressive thoughts about telling everyone to fuck off this way you don't get banned for flaming even though it would be understandable to have done remember this thread never happened normally I really like debating but the shit I've heard in this thread just really bothers the hell out of me [QUOTE=Irkalla;41908392]Euthanasia's just a medical procedure too. Nothing emotional, just "business"[/QUOTE] please stop comparing Euthanasia to abortions, do you even realize how ignorant that sounds its not even slightly close [QUOTE=FlubberNugget;41907950]without the permission it's practically murder. i think the only exception should ever be when a newborn child is in a permanent vegetative state on life support, because that child is only going to suffer in a hospital for all of it's life. (of course, only to be done with parental support)[/QUOTE] and being that autism can still mean a fully functioning child, its not even close to a veggie baby

[QUOTE=J!NX;41908771]get adblock and block the thread title before you have depressive thoughts about telling everyone to fuck off this way you don't get banned for flaming even though it would be understandable to have done remember this thread never happened normally I really like debating but the shit I've heard in this thread just really bothers the hell out of me[/QUOTE] I've been banned every way it's possible to get banned so I think I'll be able to not do those things again

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[QUOTE=mugofdoom;41898581]People who call for the euthanization of other people should be euthanized. Now cart me off![/QUOTE] Old men should be put down at birth

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41907447]Why? Because society says so? It's a week old, it's not even lucid and capable of thought. We can euthanize thousands of dogs every year but we can't do this?[/QUOTE] you're insane. [editline]20th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=FinalHunter;41907785]They've grown up that way. It's all they know. I've lived as a mostly healthy person("you're not mentally stable haehaehaehou"), so I have the perspective that allows me to determine I wouldn't want to struggle in the manner that they do. [/quote] you have no perspective lol you sound like a sad teenager with a huge victim complex and an irrational hatred for disabled people

i think once you get to the point that you literally consider babies to be on the same level as irreparably wounded animals you should probably be in an asylum

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41909126]You've got absolutely no room to criticize my beliefs, posting shit like that.[/QUOTE] No respectable human being with a sense of morality would say the stuff you're saying, though.

[QUOTE=Ownederd;41909151]No respectable human being with a sense of morality would say the stuff you're saying, though.[/QUOTE] He's clinically depressed of course he's off his rocker

[QUOTE=Craptasket;41909165]He's clinically depressed of course he's off his rocker[/QUOTE] me too but I'm a monumentally bett- a monumentally less genocidal poster

on one hand i'm surprised at the dumb bias against people looking for a little peace on the other, not so much. facepunch and all. gays and now autistics. hue.