'Euthanize' autistic teen for being 'nuisance,' says anonymous letter - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Kyle902;41899252]Yes you can considering both advocated the death of a literally the same group of people. He was comparing [B]attitude[/B] [I]not[/I] [B]actions[/B] [editline]19th August 2013[/editline] Also this post would fit perfectly with your view of Godwins law. Going by your logic I can invalidate your entire argument based on an analogy you made.[/QUOTE] So if a person shares an [I]attitude[/I] with a group, I can automatically compare them? Guess all homophobes and racists are Nazis. The Nazis were racist and homophobic too.

[QUOTE=bisousbisous;41899292]Give me one reason why he/she had to pull the "you're like Hitler/the Nazis" gambit. People use that shit to exaggerate someone's opinion into making that person out as an actual murderer. You're still comparing an angry women who has probably put up with this shit for far too long to someone who actively encouraged and participated in killing people.[/QUOTE] You literally will never understand why I made my point. You're not literate enough to even read what I'm trying to tell you. Not worth anyones time, really. FinalHunter was calling them "nothing but a detriment." and "essentially parasites.", and saying that "But you wouldn't euthanize them", if you actually are unable to see why I compared him to the Nazi's then thats pretty sad. [editline]20th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=bisousbisous;41899324]So if a person shares an [I]attitude[/I] with a group, I can automatically compare them? Guess all homophobes and racists are Nazis. The Nazis were racist and homophobic too.[/QUOTE] that has NOTHING to do with what I said. [QUOTE=J!NX;41899228]I'll post that picture again, because saying autistics should be Euthanizes basically is the same as saying jews should be gassed [t]http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/H/Heinrich-Himmler-9339448-1-402.jpg[/t] the only difference is Nazi's actually did it and have a better taste in fashion. But thats pretty much saying the same things the nazi's have said about jews. thats literally not at all what I'm saying at all and you're twisting words Stop warping words for your own sake, face it, you already have dug a hole. I literally am saying that if you say a group of people should be killed off for "Being a nuisance" you are comparable to this guy [t]http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/H/Heinrich-Himmler-9339448-1-402.jpg[/t] and if you say homosexuals or blacks should be hung in mass you are comparable to this guy. [t]http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/H/Heinrich-Himmler-9339448-1-402.jpg[/t] because that's exactly what they wanted for the jews different people same ideas. I don't care about actions, the INTENTIONS are the same. Yes, an autistic kid "LOUDLY WAILING" would annoy the [B]shit[/B] out of me, but I'd deal with it with INTELLIGENCE, not saying he should be killed "Just because he's an inconvenience"[/QUOTE] but you don't have the ability to READ and LISTEN so why should I even bother at all? You really only seem to be twisting what I said because you don't have anything to actually argue with any more.

[QUOTE=bisousbisous;41899324]So if a person shares an [I]attitude[/I] with a group, I can automatically compare them? Guess all homophobes and racists are Nazis. The Nazis were racist and homophobic too.[/QUOTE] Yes the difference here is that she is actively advocating the death of someone. I would say you can compare homophobes and racists to Nazi's if they advocate the death of someone.

[QUOTE=Kyle902;41899349]Yes the difference here is that she is actively advocating the death of someone. I would say you can compare homophobes and racists to Nazi's if they advocate the death of someone.[/QUOTE] Shh don't try and explain yourself he'll just take it completely out of context again.

[QUOTE=bisousbisous;41899324]So if a person shares an [I]attitude[/I] with a group, I can automatically compare them? Guess all homophobes and racists are Nazis. The Nazis were racist and homophobic too.[/QUOTE] I have no input on this whole thing, but uh, yeah, people actually do that all the time. Even on here.

[QUOTE=bisousbisous;41899292]Give me one reason why he/she had to pull the "you're like Hitler/the Nazis" gambit. People use that shit to exaggerate someone's opinion into making that person out as an actual murderer.[/QUOTE] Because they're advocating Eugenics like Hitler and the Nazis did. [QUOTE=bisousbisous;41899292]You're still comparing an angry women who has probably put up with this shit for far too long to someone who actively encouraged and participated in killing people.[/QUOTE] Yeah she only actively encouraged killing people because they're "useless". That's only half-Hitler I guess.

[QUOTE=bisousbisous;41899324]So if a person shares an [I]attitude[/I] with a group, I can automatically compare them? Guess all homophobes and racists are Nazis. The Nazis were racist and homophobic too.[/QUOTE] You're twisting other's words because you're out of arguments. I wouldn't be surprised if you soon cling to the argument that you are part of a minority as your last and final wall of defense before you have to let out personal attacks. We aren't saying that [I]you[/I] specifically are a Nazi. We're saying that your argument is akin to that used by Nazis, to show you how ass backwards and honestly offensive it is.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;41899364]You're twisting other's words because you're out of arguments. I wouldn't be surprised if you soon cling to the argument that you are part of a minority as your last and final wall of defense before you have to let out personal attacks. We aren't saying that [I]you[/I] specifically are a Nazi. [B]We're saying that your argument is akin to that used by Nazi[/B]s, to show you how ass backwards and honestly offensive it is.[/QUOTE] I think he's only arguing about my wording, and use of Himmler. Unless you see a quote where he agrees with that stuff lets not say he's that kind of person. It sounds more like a misunderstanding / horrible reading

[QUOTE=bisousbisous;41899324]So if a person shares an [I]attitude[/I] with a group, I can automatically compare them? Guess all homophobes and racists are Nazis. The Nazis were racist and homophobic too.[/QUOTE] No that's a generalization, not a comparison. I'm starting to think you actually don't know what that word means. Here: [quote=Webster] 1: the act or process of comparing: as a : the representing of one thing or person as similar to or like another b : an examination of two or more items to establish similarities and dissimilarities <his faults seem minor by comparison>[/quote] Yes you can compare Nazis to racists and homophobes, because they have things in common, but no you can't call all racists and homophobes Nazis, because that's not a comparison. That's a generalized statement and obviously wrong.

Has anyone questioned the legitimacy of this? There's been a recent string of things like this going through that were later shown to be / have a good chance of being false. The 2 Year old called a faggot, and the kid sending herself hatemail are the first ones to come to mind.

[QUOTE=J!NX;41899328]You literally will never understand why I made my point. You're not literate enough to even read what I'm trying to tell you. Not worth anyones time, really. FinalHunter was calling them "nothing but a detriment." and "essentially parasites.", and saying that "But you wouldn't euthanize them", if you actually are unable to see why I compared him to the Nazi's then thats pretty sad. [editline]20th August 2013[/editline] that has NOTHING to do with what I said. but you don't have the ability to READ and LISTEN so why should I even bother at all?[/QUOTE] I don't know why I even bother. It seems that you'd all take this kids barrage of wailing, whether it be in the dead of night or in the middle of the day, in complete and total stride. FinalHunter had a point: severely autistic people contribute literally nothing to society, and instead suck up resources. 4 pages have shown me that a women has no right to complain, even with her suggestion of euthanization, that a family do something to keep their autistic kid quiet. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if a couple of you guys went over to her house if her address was posted and murdered her.

[QUOTE=bisousbisous;41899403]I don't know why I even bother. It seems that you'd all take this kids barrage of wailing, whether it be in the dead of night or in the middle of the day, in complete and total stride. FinalHunter had a point: severely autistic people contribute literally nothing to society, and instead suck up resources. 4 pages have shown me that a women has no right to complain, even with her suggestion of euthanization, that a family do something to keep their autistic kid quiet. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if a couple of you guys went over to her house if her address was posted and murdered her.[/QUOTE] lol because euthanizing someone for being a convenience isn't like the nazis at all nope fucking wow ok hey yeah she should try to do SOMETHING but why should a piece of shit like in the letter be allowed to say such garbage like that?

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[QUOTE=J!NX;41899411]lol because euthanizing someone for being a convenience isn't like the nazis at all nope fucking wow[/QUOTE] Do you see the part where I say Hunter is right about killing them? No? How about the part where I agree with him that they are parasites? Yes? Glad we cleared that up.

[QUOTE=bisousbisous;41899403] severely autistic people contribute literally nothing to society, and instead suck up resources.[/QUOTE] [quote=Viktor Brack]He who is bodily and mentally not sound and deserving may not perpetuate this misfortune in the bodies of his children. The people's state has to perform the most gigantic rearing-task here. One day, however, it will appear as a deed greater than the most victorious wars of our present bourgeois era[/quote] You'd heartily agree with Action T-4, it appears.

[QUOTE=bisousbisous;41899403]I don't know why I even bother. It seems that you'd all take this kids barrage of wailing, whether it be in the dead of night or in the middle of the day, in complete and total stride. FinalHunter had a point: severely autistic people contribute literally nothing to society, and instead suck up resources. 4 pages have shown me that a women has no right to complain, even with her suggestion of euthanization, that a family do something to keep their autistic kid quiet. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if a couple of you guys went over to her house if her address was posted and murdered her.[/QUOTE] Well then lets euthanize the elderly and the disabled because they contribute nothing, right?

[QUOTE=bisousbisous;41899403]I don't know why I even bother. It seems that you'd all take this kids barrage of wailing, [B]whether it be in the dead of night[/B] or in the middle of the day, in complete and total stride. FinalHunter had a point: severely autistic people contribute literally nothing to society, and instead suck up resources. 4 pages have shown me that a women has no right to complain, even with her suggestion of euthanization, that a family do something to keep their autistic kid quiet. I wouldn't be surprised in the least if a couple of you guys went over to her house if her address was posted and murdered her.[/QUOTE] Why would the kid be outside in the dead of night? And yeah I think I'd take it a lot better than this woman.

[QUOTE=J!NX;41899411]lol because euthanizing someone for being a convenience isn't like the nazis at all nope fucking wow ok hey yeah she should try to do SOMETHING but why should a piece of shit like in the letter be allowed to say such garbage like that?[/QUOTE] She is allowed to express her opinion. Will her way lead to her arrest? Maybe, but she can write whatever she wants about some annoying as fuck kid.

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41899422]I didn't take a side in my post. I simply pointed out a user being a hypocrite for being intolerant of a woman because of her intolerant beliefs. I stated no personal belief, simply factual evidence. I am not a nazi nor do I condone harming mentally retarded individuals in any way. Idiots like you are the problem that we have situations like this, because you can't even acknowledge that a severely autistic child simply cannot operate anywhere near the same level as a normal person. People rate me dumb and call me a Nazi simply because they don't like the few facts I presented, just as they will again.[/QUOTE] thank god, but could you please not call autistic people "PARASITES" people rated you dumb because you made an insanely dumb remark they obviously can't operate on the same level but your shitty mentality is way, way worse than trying to treat them [QUOTE=bisousbisous;41899424]Do you see the part where I say Hunter is right about killing them? No? How about the part where I agree with him that they are parasites? Yes? Glad we cleared that up.[/QUOTE] I wasn't saying that at all, but you don't seem understand that either [QUOTE=bisousbisous;41899440]She is allowed to express her opinion. Will her way lead to her arrest? Maybe, but she can write whatever she wants about some annoying as fuck kid.[/QUOTE] People have opinions of her opinions and implying death and pure hate mail kind of isn't a smart or legal thing to do this is purely hate mail / harassment

[QUOTE=bisousbisous;41899424] they are parasites[/QUOTE] [t]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/Viktor_Brack_N%C3%BCrnberg_2.jpg[/t] I see this man speaking your words

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41899422]I didn't take a side in my post. I simply pointed out a user being a hypocrite for being intolerant of a woman because of her intolerant beliefs. I stated no personal belief, simply factual evidence. I am not a nazi nor do I condone harming mentally retarded individuals in any way. Idiots like you are the problem that we have situations like this, because you can't even acknowledge that a severely autistic child simply cannot operate anywhere near the same level as a normal person. People rate me dumb and call me a Nazi simply because they don't like the few facts I presented, just as they will again.[/QUOTE] You do realize that Bill Gates would classify as "autistic" right? So would a great many scientists through out history. Autism is a spectrum of similar disorders of varying severity.

[QUOTE=mugofdoom;41899433]Why would the kid be outside in the dead of night? And yeah I think I'd take it a lot better than this woman.[/QUOTE] Pretty sure autistic kids will randomly have outbursts like his. Random as in at any time. Like night.

[QUOTE=bisousbisous;41899440]She is allowed to express her opinion. Will her way lead to her arrest? Maybe, but she can write whatever she wants about some annoying as fuck kid.[/QUOTE] Wow you are a terrible person who doesn't have nearly enough perspective to understand this situation. [editline]19th August 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=bisousbisous;41899464]Pretty sure autistic kids will randomly have outbursts like his. Random as in at any time. Like night.[/QUOTE] Wow so an autistic person decides (A lot of autism spectrum disorders are basically an inability to communicate. Not mental retardation) to wake up in the middle of the night and start screaming for exactly what reason? Using your shit fuck logic then babies should be locked in sound proof bunkers so they don't wake anyone up. [editline]19th August 2013[/editline] I'd also love to see the qualifications you have in regards to understanding the actions of autism spectrum kids.

[QUOTE=Kyle902;41899467]Wow you are a terrible person who doesn't have nearly enough perspective to understand this situation.[/QUOTE] Or maybe I don't think highly of severely autistic people and your incredibly dense skull cant get the fact through your head that there are people who have opinions, no matter how extreme, different from yours, and that these people aren't the ones locked up with Charles Manson but are the people who you walk by on the street each day.

[QUOTE=FinalHunter;41899422]I didn't take a side in my post. I simply pointed out a user being a hypocrite for being intolerant of a woman because of her intolerant beliefs. I stated no personal belief, simply factual evidence. I am not a nazi nor do I condone harming mentally retarded individuals in any way. Idiots like you are the reason that we have situations like this, because you can't even acknowledge that a severely autistic child simply cannot operate anywhere near the same level as a normal person. People rate me dumb and call me a Nazi simply because they don't like the few facts I presented, just as they will again.[/QUOTE] Everyone acknowledges that severely autistic people cannot function at the same level as normal people. How you plan to deal with this is what sets people apart on the issue.

[QUOTE=Kyle902;41899467]Wow you are a terrible person who doesn't have nearly enough perspective to understand this situation. [editline]19th August 2013[/editline] Wow so an autistic person decides (A lot of autism spectrum disorders are basically an inability to communicate. Not mental retardation) to wake up in the middle of the night and start screaming for exactly what reason? Using your shit fuck logic then babies should be locked in sound proof bunkers so they don't wake anyone up. [editline]19th August 2013[/editline] I'd also love to see the qualifications you have in regards to understanding the actions of autism spectrum kids.[/QUOTE] Random doesn't mean decided, it means random. As in out of the blue. As in the kid wouldn't have control.

[QUOTE=bisousbisous;41899464]Pretty sure autistic kids will randomly have outbursts like his. Random as in at any time. Like night.[/QUOTE] Yeah but if you had read the letter, she says she only hears the noises when the child is outside.

[QUOTE=bisousbisous;41899484]Or maybe I don't think highly of severely autistic people and your incredibly dense skull cant get the fact through your head that there are people who have opinions, no matter how extreme, different from yours, and that these people aren't the ones locked up with Charles Manson but are the people who you walk by on the street each day.[/QUOTE] Severely autistic is a vague term that means literal [B]jack shit[/B] to anyone who is at least knowledgeable of Autism. Get that through YOUR thick ass skull right now. Autism is a spectrum of hundreds of disorders (this is a simplified way of putting it) ranging from a simple inability to communicate yet still having coherent thought, to an inability to have coherent thought. You are not only generalizing, but saying that 1/10 people [I]don't[/I] contribute to society you thick shit.

it's pretty bitchy to write a letter like that but I'd be pretty annoyed if a kid was constantly making loud noises outside my house too not saying I'd call the kid a nuisance and call for euthanization but I see where the lady is coming from

[QUOTE=ilikecorn;41899510]Ah you see, i can offer input because i actually have a child. Let me explain something to you. Most people are more than willing to put up with a few outbursts here and there, that's no problem, THE PROBLEM ARISES when CONSTANT screaming and other shit happens. When my son was teething, he would scream bloody murder for HOURS, eventually our neighbors, even though they were really nice, asked us to do something about it, we eventually went to the doctor and got stronger pain medications for him, which stopped it.[/QUOTE] to be fair, your neighbors didn't' say you should euthanize the kid