Online dating study shows racial prejudices can be easily altered - Polidicks

[QUOTE=katbug;42781115]You're really fucking stupid if you don't think you're racist for saying that.[/QUOTE] Nah Reverse Racism does not really exist. Horrible cases of discrimination do exist and can't be forgiven just because it is the opposite of the usual and much more common violence (like the Trayvon Martin attacks and the Rodney King riots). For example, the rape epidemic in our society is caused by its patriarchal structure. The biggest worry women have all around the world (less so in the Western world) is violence by men, notably rape. Women can rape men, and do sometimes, something MRA's love to remind us of. With rape being the product of misogyny in our society, one could say that women raping men is "reverse misogyny" or "misandry". This is not the case. These are individual attacks against men by terrible women, not a reflection of a power structures in society. Though there are tons of arguments to be had, including the flinging of dictionary definitions, about what constitutes discrimination and racism/misogyny, there is a clear difference between crimes that are more or less "sanctioned" or rather naturally expected by society, and ones that are not.

[QUOTE=person11;42781246]Tee hee[/QUOTE] Yeah alright, I guess these people do exist, sorry everyone I've argued about them with

[QUOTE=Atlascore;42781183]But the way you word this stuff makes you sound like an asshole, pretty much everything you post is written in the most pretentious way possible.[/QUOTE] Yeah. I know. I don't mean it in a "you're dumb" way. I just mean that the barest look into some books or textbooks about this stuff would convince most of you. Sociology and all the X Studies (gender, women, black, latino etc) fields are vastly informative for looking at how our society handles these issues, but many people ignore them because firmly established academic fields "don't count" if they do not conform to a society's status quo. Sort of how people will just up and say that Psychology is bullshit and people should get over their mental health problems. I get stressed out about all this sometimes, sorry.

[QUOTE=person11;42777795]They definitely don't want to deal with white people. Can't really blame them all things considered.[/QUOTE] Not all of the white population can be held responsible for acts commited by a part of it in the past. Most nations doesn't have a history of institutionalised racism against blacks.

[QUOTE=person11;42781307]Yeah. I know. I don't mean it in a "you're dumb" way. I just mean that the barest look into some books or textbooks about this stuff would convince most of you. Sociology and all the X Studies (gender, women, black, latino etc) fields are vastly informative for looking at how our society handles these issues, but many people ignore them because firmly established academic fields "don't count" if they do not conform to a society's status quo. Sort of how people will just up and say that Psychology is bullshit and people should get over their mental health problems. I get stressed out about all this sometimes, sorry.[/QUOTE] It doesn't make you seem any less arrogant and ridiculous to say that our opinions are wrong because we've apparently never read a book relevant to the subject. Nor does it make you any more credible to compare our opinions to those of people who discredit modern psychology. It pretty much just makes you look even worse I mean in one post you managed to call us ignorant conformist deniers of modern science so that has to win some kind of ad hominem award at best. For the record, although I've never taken a gender studies course myself I have sit in on quite a few classes and I think you're kind of making a lot of good people look bad even if you're trying to speak for them. If you're really just getting worked up and saying dumb things then fine but maybe try to just reason out your opinion instead of insulting everyone

[QUOTE=G-Strogg;42781353]Not all of the white population can be held responsible for acts commited by a part of it in the past. Most nations doesn't have a history of institutionalised racism against blacks.[/QUOTE] Most nations still have racism though.

[QUOTE=G-Strogg;42781353]Not all of the white population can be held responsible for acts commited by a part of it in the past. Most nations doesn't have a history of institutionalised racism against blacks.[/QUOTE] I think a lot of the confusion comes from what scale they're talking, american, western in general, worldwide, chinese, whatever, etc Though I think he's talking about America in which case he's probably right, but of course to say that only white people have oppressed other races is idiotic and uneducated

[QUOTE=Laputa;42781405]I think a lot of the confusion comes from what scale they're talking, american, western in general, worldwide, chinese, whatever, etc Though I think he's talking about America in which case he's probably right, but of course to say that only white people have oppressed other races is idiotic and uneducated[/QUOTE] My issue is that when Americans talk about it it usually seems as if the way it is in US society applies to the entire world.

[QUOTE=person11;42781246]Nah Reverse Racism does not really exist. Horrible cases of discrimination do exist and can't be forgiven just because it is the opposite of the usual and much more common violence (like the Trayvon Martin attacks and the Rodney King riots). For example, the rape epidemic in our society is caused by its patriarchal structure. The biggest worry women have all around the world (less so in the Western world) is violence by men, notably rape. Women can rape men, and do sometimes, something MRA's love to remind us of. With rape being the product of misogyny in our society, one could say that women raping men is "reverse misogyny" or "misandry". This is not the case. These are individual attacks against men by terrible women, not a reflection of a power structures in society. Though there are tons of arguments to be had, including the flinging of dictionary definitions, about what constitutes discrimination and racism/misogyny, there is a clear difference between crimes that are more or less "sanctioned" or rather naturally expected by society, and ones that are not.[/QUOTE] How can a woman rape a man if a erection is required for the sexual act?

Strange, the black girls where I'm from jumped out of moving cars to attack another black woman that was dating a white guy that they wanted.

[QUOTE=Tarzy;42781463]Strange, the black girls where I'm from jumped out of moving cars to attack another black woman that was dating a white guy that they wanted.[/QUOTE] All of them? They all jump from cars? Or is that just a one time thing?

[QUOTE=Beerminator;42781461]How can a woman rape a man if a erection is required for the sexual act?[/QUOTE] Drug or booze him, or use a foreign object.

[QUOTE=Beerminator;42781461]How can a woman rape a man if a erection is required for the sexual act?[/QUOTE] Can we all agree that this statement is the best one of this thread

[QUOTE=person11;42781497]Can we all agree that this statement is the best one of this thread[/QUOTE] Can't tell if you're being coy or not, but she could shove something up the dudes anus. Even happened in Sweden once.

[QUOTE=person11;42781497]Can we all agree that this statement is the best one of this thread[/QUOTE] I say we put it in the hall of fame, after "oh fuck oh fuck we're gonna be poor" and SexualShark's weird rant about autism

[QUOTE=Tarzy;42781463]Strange, the black girls where I'm from jumped out of moving cars to attack another black woman that was dating a white guy that they wanted.[/QUOTE] As a white Jamaican I know the feeling But now in Britain everybody wants me for my accent

[QUOTE=person11;42777795]They definitely don't want to deal with white people. Can't really blame them all things considered.[/QUOTE] time and a place buddy, time and a place

[QUOTE=Laputa;42781537]As a white Jamaican I know the feeling But now in Britain everybody wants me for my accent[/QUOTE] tbh i never understood the whole going after people for their accent. im more interested in how they act and how they look, over how they sound.

[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;42781237]Assuming that something is always true in every situation without ever looking more deeply into the matter is stupid and harmful. And assuming you know the cause behind every sociological pattern that applies to half of the population is also stupid and harmful. There are plenty of patterns that this study brings up. Yet the moment those patterns have something to do with black women, suddenly you know what the cause is. [I]That[/I] is asshole behaviour.[/QUOTE] I'm not assuming I know everything by any means. I look into the matter as deeply as I am able, and I usually find sexism or some form of oppression present, no matter how unlikely it seems. Oppression of various groups is one of the pillars our society is based upon, it seems, so most things lead back to that. I said what I said because of what I've read and what I have heard. The pattern from this article fits rather well into what's been said already by academics and activists. I should have worded it better to show that it was more of a guess than a "This is 100% true because reasons" statement.

[QUOTE=Beerminator;42781461]How can a woman rape a man if a erection is required for the sexual act?[/QUOTE] believe it or not, stimulus can still get it up regardless of your willingness. also, if you're drunk and easily coaxed into doing things it's the fault of whoever did the coaxing, whether it was taking advantage of their mental state, pressuring them with threats of telling others lies (aka social pressure and [i]blackmail[/i]), it's far from a dude's fault if they get emotionally or physically backed into a corner against their will also can you really call a bias in racial preference 'racism'? People genuinely find certain facial structures to be physically more attractive than others, usually biased by their own genetic history because that's just what you're programmed to find interesting. It isn't all "well I don't like black people so scratch that off my list", maybe some races just reflect extremes of cues from your own preference and amplify it in ways that are just interesting?

[QUOTE=Beerminator;42781461]How can a woman rape a man if a erection is required for the sexual act?[/QUOTE] Are you male? Have you never had an unintentional erection? Your dick doesn't care whether you want it to be up or not, all it cares about is stimulus.

That's not his point. He's talking about "reverse rape" like it can't exist. Some sort of comparison between "reverse rape" and "reverse racism" [editline]6th November 2013[/editline] or maybe im giving him too much credit. edit: [QUOTE=Beerminator;42781661]Irrelevant. Erection = you want sex.[/QUOTE] ooops too much credit

[QUOTE=mugofdoom;42781636]Are you male? Have you never had an unintentional erection? Your dick doesn't care whether you want it to be up or not, all it cares about is stimulus.[/QUOTE] Irrelevant. Erection = you want sex.

[QUOTE=thisispain;42781538]time and a place buddy, time and a place[/QUOTE] All I can think of is "Oak's words echoed... There's a time and place for everything, but not now."

[QUOTE=person11;42781592]I'm not assuming I know everything by any means. I look into the matter as deeply as I am able, and I usually find sexism or some form of oppression present, no matter how unlikely it seems. Oppression of various groups is one of the pillars our society is based upon, it seems, so most things lead back to that. I said what I said because of what I've read and what I have heard. The pattern from this article fits rather well into what's been said already by academics and activists. I should have worded it better to show that it was more of a guess than a "This is 100% true because reasons" statement.[/QUOTE] I don't think black women dislike men because of earlier oppression or similar. Maybe it's true in the us in some cases, but overall in the world I think it's very unlikely. As for Asians being sexualised in Porn, I can't agree at all since girls of all races are equally exposed in that regard. Sure it's possible to fetischise over Asian girls but I don't think that's the main cause behind attraction.

[QUOTE=G-Strogg;42781670]I don't think black women dislike men because of earlier oppression or similar. Maybe it's true in the us in some cases, but overall in the world I think it's very unlikely. As for Asians being sexualised in Porn, I can't agree at all since girls of all races are equally exposed in that regard. Sure it's possible to fetischise over Asian girls but I don't think that's the main cause behind attraction.[/QUOTE] You'd be surprised how deep this stuff goes. You can be acting out racist ideals, thoughts, etc. without being conscious of it. Porn is pretty much the last frontier of non apologetically categorizing people by race. The reason I am what people called a "social justice warrior" or whatever is because I thought I was a perfectly good person until I looked back on my seemingly innocent life. Turns out I've been thinking and living based on racist and sexist ideals, and I did shitty things without realizing it. I want to make up for it.

i think a good number of people here need to have clarified the difference between racism, racial/cultural stereotyping, racial discrimination, and how they relate to personal taste for lack of a better term. coincidentally being attracted to a certain race MOST OF THE TIME does not a racist make

[QUOTE=person11;42781669]All I can think of is "Oak's words echoed... There's a time and place for everything, but not now."[/QUOTE] no it's just that was a very non-elegant and crass way to bring it up

[QUOTE=Most wanteD;42781868]i think a good number of people here need to have clarified the difference between racism, racial/cultural stereotyping, racial discrimination, and how they relate to personal taste for lack of a better term. coincidentally being attracted to a certain race MOST OF THE TIME does not a racist make[/QUOTE] This is true. Implying racial stereotyping from socialization and people acting on their own internal ideals of the differences between races is acting in a racist way in a very small way, but not the same thing as being a racist. So my implying that lot's of things are based on views of race, it does not mean everyone is a racist. It's like a spectrum.

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