Jenni Lake, Pregnant Teen, Stopped Cancer Treatment To Protect Baby In Idaho
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[QUOTE=faze;33957141]Please don't turn another of my threads into a religious debate.[/QUOTE]
Hey, he asked what the comments were. Now to find that script...
[QUOTE=Camundongo;33957186]Not sure I actually said that, but it might have given her a few years, or even more, to spend with her kid, and let her be the mother she wanted to be. She didn't even get to see her child properly because the tumours had almost reduced her vision by the time she gave birth.
And the kid might feel guiltly without outside influence. I'd guess it'd be comparable to survivor's guilt.[/QUOTE]The treatment would have killed the kid in fetu, so your first argument is null.
And I doubt the kid would feel guilty over something he had no control over.
Nothing makes me more sick then people acting like every great sacrifice like this should be something you thank god for instead of thanking the person making the actual sacrifice. These youtube comments....
*ragecloses youtube*
[QUOTE=J!NX;33956542]
You can replace an arm and a leg, you can't replace a brain.[/QUOTE]
Reminds me of the saying, "You can't fix stupid."
[QUOTE=ExplodingGuy;33957315]The treatment would have killed the kid in fetu, so your first argument is null.
And I doubt the kid would feel guilty over something he had no control over.[/QUOTE]
1) Which is why I suggested that her not going through with the pregnancy, and then at least waiting a few more months for the tumour to continue receding (which according to the article it was, hence why they went through with this plan), although I guess that it'd be hard to judge when the tumour would have receded enough.
2) People do though - it's not uncommon. Hence the term survivor's guilt (which is when people feel guilty for surviving something when others did not, even if they had no way of changing the outcome).
[QUOTE=Van-man;33956776]What do they say?
Can't see them because I've blocked them with a greasemonkey script, since we all know youtube's userbase tends to be fully retarded.[/QUOTE]
[quote]She gave her life for her child, yet some* kill their babies so they wont be burdened by their irresponsibility. Am I better than anyone else, no? She is though. Sit back and think about life choices. God made her an example for others to learn by. Did you learn something from her? I did. I will not take life for granted any more. Well I hope I want. God bless you girl, and thank you for teaching me another life's lesson.[/quote]
[quote]Pity the poor atheist comments.
They think Everything* Everywhere For All Time 'just happens'![/quote]
Btw guys rate up sweb's comment
I would have aborted, gone on with treatment, then had another kid down the line. Probably when I was well beyond my teen years.
If I were her.
[editline]29th December 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=faze;33957141]Please don't turn another of my threads into a religious debate.[/QUOTE]
8^y it just keeps happening!
[QUOTE=Camundongo;33957409]1) Which is why I suggested that her not going through with the pregnancy, and then at least waiting a few more months for the tumour to continue receding (which according to the article it was, hence why they went through with this plan), although I guess that it'd be hard to judge when the tumour would have receded enough.
2) People do though - it's not uncommon. Hence the term survivor's guilt (which is when people feel guilty for surviving something when others did not, even if they had no way of changing the outcome).[/QUOTE]
"the cancer is receding, LETS GET PREGNANT AGAIN!"
[QUOTE=Valdor;33957640]"the cancer is receding, LETS GET PREGNANT AGAIN!"[/QUOTE]
[quote]There was no discussion about which path Jenni would choose. Her parents didn't think of it as a clear life or death decision, and Jenni may not have, either. They believed that since the tumours had already started to shrink earlier, she had a strong chance of carrying the baby and then returning to treatment after he was born.
"I guess we were just hoping that after she had the baby, she could go back on the chemotherapy and get better," her mother said. [/quote]
So, I guess you're right really, since that's basically what she was doing. I think having a termination and seeing how the treatment (which was working) panned out could have ended up with both the mother and her child alive - preferable to just the child, no?
[QUOTE=faze;33957141]Please don't turn another of my threads into a religious debate.[/QUOTE]
the more you say that, the more likely it is to happen
people will think you're looking for an argument.
[QUOTE=Lambeth;33957497]I would have aborted, gone on with treatment, then had another kid down the line. Probably when I was well beyond my teen years.[/QUOTE]
If I was her dad/mom/or bf I would have advised her to not get pregnant until after she was in remission.
I mean, what's the bigger personal sacrifice, not having the kid you want until you're ready to be a parent or going ahead and having the kid you want even if you know you won't be around to be responsible for it?
Amazingly wonderful decision. Yes, it cost her her life, but the fact that she did it so she could have a healthy child is simply inspiring.
[QUOTE=cecilbdemodded;33957836]If I was her dad/mom/or bf I would have advised her to not get pregnant until after she was in remission.
I mean, what's the bigger personal sacrifice, not having the kid you want until you're ready to be a parent or going ahead and having the kid you want even if you know you won't be around to be responsible for it?[/QUOTE]
I feel the second sacrifice is bigger but ultimately more meaningless
I don't really get how this is inspiring?
[QUOTE=Contag;33958304]I don't really get how this is inspiring?[/QUOTE]
because woooooo babies
[QUOTE=J!NX;33956542]"Brain cancer"
FUUUUUU
that is literally the worst thing you can get ever. No flesh eating spider bite sounds as bad to me as brain cancer.
You can replace an arm and a leg, you can't replace a brain.[/QUOTE]
You can't replace an arm [I]or[/I] a leg. You can substitute them at best, but it's not nearly as functional or useful as the original.
[QUOTE=Mr. Someguy;33958385]You can't replace an arm [I]or[/I] a leg. You can substitute them at best, but it's not nearly as functional or useful as the original.[/QUOTE]
Obviously, but can you fix the permanent damage brain cancer can bring? possibly loosing the ability of functioning limbs because of it? Or death? No, no you can't.
So in comparison to brain cancer, yeah, it kinda isn't even as bad. Plus if you just lose below the knee with legs you get a metal one and you're basically just as good as you were before.
[QUOTE=J!NX;33958497]Obviously, but can you fix the permanent damage brain cancer can bring? Or death? No, no you can't.[/QUOTE]
my uncle had brain cancer and he got away with some temporary loss of motor functions and speech difficulties, all pretty much fixed now
on the other hand, my dad had brain cancer and now he's dead.
it all depends on what type you get and where.
[sp]I just know I'm next in line, fuck[/sp]
[QUOTE=Turnips5;33958533]my uncle had brain cancer and he got away with some temporary loss of motor functions and speech difficulties, all pretty much fixed now
on the other hand, my dad had brain cancer and now he's dead.
it all depends on what type you get and where.
[sp]I just know I'm next in line, fuck[/sp][/QUOTE]
oh shit
[QUOTE=Turnips5;33958533]my uncle had brain cancer and he got away with some temporary loss of motor functions and speech difficulties, all pretty much fixed now
on the other hand, my dad had brain cancer and now he's dead.
it all depends on what type you get and where.
[sp]I just know I'm next in line, fuck[/sp][/QUOTE]
My friend had one and all he lost was his sense of smell.
[QUOTE=Contag;33958549]oh shit[/QUOTE]
apparently there's no genetic disposition, so perhaps it's unfounded to worry about it
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glioblastoma_multiforme[/url]
just reading about it makes me feel sick though
thanks for ur concern tho (?)
[QUOTE=TBFundy;33957120]heh, takes one to know one[/QUOTE]
I know you are but what am I
oh burn
[QUOTE=Lambeth;33958610]My friend had one and all he lost was his sense of smell.[/QUOTE]
I have no sense of smell, and barely taste here, it's bad, but not THAT bad.
I can still taste [I]some[/I] things though.
Considering that's all he lost, that's insanely lucky.
[QUOTE=Camundongo;33957719]So, I guess you're right really, since that's basically what she was doing. I think having a termination and seeing how the treatment (which was working) panned out could have ended up with both the mother and her child alive - preferable to just the child, no?[/QUOTE]
She was pregnant as a result of believing that the treatment would stop it from happening, and not because the cancer was receding.
She decided that she would rather have the child and hope that she would be able to resume treatment as opposed to going through treatment with only a 30% chance of lasting for two years, and with no guarantee of having even having a kid.
[editline]29th December 2011[/editline]
The chances of a child being born if she decided to resume treatment are too low, you're acting like the kid is going to grow up in a terrible environment. Unless they constantly remind him every day that his mother died in order for him to live, I doubt the subject will even be on his mind that much.
A teenage mother leaves the world and is replaced by a newborn? Good.
[QUOTE=Lazyboy0337;33960730]A teenage mother leaves the world and is replaced by a newborn? Good.[/QUOTE]
I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to imply here. Why is the life of a newborn baby intrinsically more important than that of teenager simply because the teenager is a mother?
This is an amazing person.
[QUOTE=Cl0cK;33961229]This is an amazing person.[/QUOTE]
was
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