UK Government advisor calls to ban all energy drinks from schools - "‘Energy drinks are effectively
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I saw a young child exit out of a vehicle while I was dropping my little sister off to school, who is seven. A kid exited a car - who is in the same class as my little sister - had a big can of Monster in his hands. I couldn't agree more to this ban; it might teach irresponsible parents a lesson.
I never really got into the whole Monster craze at college, though I usually just dealt with Coke or Irn Bru, which whilst similarly caffeinated weren't as overloaded and poor-tasting as stuff like Monster. Nowadays however I take my coffee black like a responsible adult, though I only really have coffee when I'm needed for a morning shift in the kitchens.
I drink energy drinks mainly for the taste, though I don't drink them every single day or even every week, I'll just have one occasionally if I'm up for it. Except for Red Bull, that's the only one that doesn't taste good to me, oh that and five hour power.
[QUOTE=Jonne Bravo;43617989]I saw a young child exit out of a vehicle while I was dropping my little sister off to school, who is seven. A kid exited a car - who is in the same class as my little sister - had a big can of Monster in his hands. I couldn't agree more to this ban; it might teach irresponsible parents a lesson.[/QUOTE]
I agree as well, schools just aren't the places for them, plus I think not having access to some immediate sugar rush for at least eight hours teaches some responsibility and ability to maintain awareness in a situation you don't enjoy.
[QUOTE=Mad Chatter;43616637]How about teaching kids about [B]moderation[/B] instead of outright banning these drinks.
No, wait, that's kinda progressive.[/QUOTE]
so by that logic, beer should be legal for kids of any age to drink?
regardless of the fact that this news article isn't about banning energy drinks, it's just about removing them from the school environment (did you even read the title?), i'm 100% for the legalisation of almost all drugs but kids are kids and kids are dumb. teach them about moderation, yeh of course, but that doesn't mean that they should be allowed to drink them in school
it's important for young people to get proper amounts of sleep and learn how to operate and work hard without having to rely on a crutch like caffeine. energy drinks shouldn't be in schools
Because turning into a nanny-state totally doesn't have any consequences either!
I think there's also a bit of an issue with school/extracurriculars and the surrounding culture if students are this dependent on energy drinks to keep functioning.
[url]http://www.caffeineinformer.com/death-by-caffeine[/url]
I'd say your stomach is going to be full before you OD at least.
[QUOTE=Jonne Bravo;43617989]I saw a young child exit out of a vehicle while I was dropping my little sister off to school, who is seven. A kid exited a car - who is in the same class as my little sister - had a big can of Monster in his hands. I couldn't agree more to this ban; it might teach irresponsible parents a lesson.[/QUOTE]
How is this going to teach irresponsible parents a lesson? It teaches them that they don't need to try to take responsibility for their child.
[QUOTE=Mr.95;43618407]I drink energy drinks mainly for the taste, though I don't drink them every single day or even every week, I'll just have one occasionally if I'm up for it. Except for Red Bull, that's the only one that doesn't taste good to me, oh that and five hour power.
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If you mainly drink energy drinks for the taste, then you would be drinking the 'Battery' energy drink franchise, because they are the most quality.
If you claim to be drinking Monster Energy or fucking Megaforce for their "taste" then I am sorry but you are full of shit.
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;43620908]If you mainly drink energy drinks for the taste, then you would be drinking the 'Battery' energy drink franchise, because they are the most quality.
If you claim to be drinking Monster Energy or fucking Megaforce for their "taste" then I am sorry but you are full of shit.[/QUOTE]
But I like their ripper and lo-carb variants, they've got a sweet taste but its not stupidly overpowering, but I'm not so keen on the rest of their range, the normal one had a bit of an off taste that's hard to explain and redbull tastes like fucking battery acid, had that once never touching again.
I don't really get why kids chug this shit though, is it because of the social image that the brands have or something? I can understand having a can every now and then, I mean I mainly only have them when I feel like it or if I'm working on something and I know I'll be up for hours on end. It's not good for me and I know this but it helps get shit done, I should really substitute it for something else but I like sweet things.
[QUOTE=Aurastorm;43607614]energy drinks taste shit and are terrible for your health anyone who disagrees is objectively wrong[/QUOTE]
I've actually grown to enjoy the taurine taste of a Red Bull every once and while. It's oddly refreshing.
I knew a guy that drunk like 9 cans of monster in 1 hour and passed out.
He doesn't drink energy drinks anymore :v:
[QUOTE=Bat-shit;43620908]If you mainly drink energy drinks for the taste, then you would be drinking the 'Battery' energy drink franchise, because they are the most quality.
If you claim to be drinking Monster Energy or fucking Megaforce for their "taste" then I am sorry but you are full of shit.[/QUOTE]
You need to learn the difference between subjective and objective opinions it seems. Not everyone has the same taste as you.
[QUOTE=Loriborn;43607734]For reference, Red Bull has around 76mg of caffeine, (in a 258g can) Monster has around 86mg, (in a 240g can) and Coke has around 39mg (in a 370g can). For reference, a caffeine pill has 100mg of caffeine, which means these energy drinks have about as much caffeine as a caffeine supplement, which you can, and people have, OD on.
This doesn't count those massive 710ml cans that some people chug like normal cans of coke. The excess vitamins in the drink are also damaging to the kidney, as each drink contains 100% of your recommended daily intake of vitamins (like riboflavin and B6) and the more you drink, the more stress you put on your kidneys and liver, which must filter out the excess.
Proportionally, the amount of caffeine in a single can of Monster is more than three times the amount in a can of coke, and caffeine as a LD50 in humans of about 150mg/kg. While you're not going to OD (very easily) on monster, the high concentration of caffeine and sugar is incredibly damaging to developing children and adolescents. It also has a high rate of physical dependence, and the withdrawal can be awful.
sources:
[URL="http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/4266"]USDA Red Bull entry[/URL]
[URL="http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/4440"]USDA Monster Energy entry[/URL]
[URL="http://ndb.nal.usda.gov/ndb/foods/show/4260?fg=&man=&lfacet=&format=&count=&max=25&offset=&sort=&qlookup=Carbonated+beverage"]USDA Coca Cola entry[/URL]
[URL="http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0278691502000960"]Caffeine Addiction[/URL]
These drinks have no place being sold in a school setting to children who are still developing mentally and physically.[/QUOTE]
I didn't know that, holy shit. Time for me to stop drinking it then, even though I though I only drink one like every 2 weeks. That shit is crazy. Thanks dude.
My favourite energy drink was Red Bull with lime:
[img]http://image.redbull.com/rbx00264/0100/0/406/products/packshots/global/INT_250_RBSE_silver_SingleUnit_closed_cold_front.png[/img]
It was always on offer and I don't think they make them any more, tasted nothing like traditional energy drinks.
[QUOTE=Loriborn;43608017]Children are not at an age to decide if they can handle a drink that tastes fine to them and gives them energy, but is killing them very slowly from the inside out.
Just as a child can't consent to sex, they can't consent to drink what basically amounts to poison. (when administered to an adolescent or child)
Over the age of 18, (or 16 in the UK) go ahead and kill yourself with whatever you want; but with kids, these drinks have no place.[/QUOTE]
Why wouldnt teens be able to consent to sex? Unless you children that's like 10-14 or something like that.
I have a terrible addiction, I have at least 1 amp/redbull a day. Sometimes 2.
I wish I didn't
[QUOTE=ViralHatred;43609907]I have ADD.
I'd rather stick with my caffeine addiction than be forced onto ritalin or dextroamphetamine again.[/QUOTE]
There are healthier forms of caffeine than energy drinks out there though
[QUOTE=theobod;43621241]I didn't know that, holy shit. Time for me to stop drinking it then, even though I though I only drink one like every 2 weeks. That shit is crazy. Thanks dude.[/QUOTE]
they're really making a big deal out of nothing, things may start to happen at levels way higher than an energy drink contains
and the sources don't even make sense, you cant just link to nutrition facts and a study that contradicts you:
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(1) Caffeine increases alertness and reduces fatigue. This may be especially important in low arousal situations (e.g. working at night). (2) Caffeine improves performance on vigilance tasks and simple tasks that require sustained response. Again, these effects are often clearest when alertness is reduced, although there is evidence that benefits may still occur when the person is unimpaired. (3) Effects on more complex tasks are difficult to assess and probably involve interactions between the caffeine and other variables which increase alertness (e.g. personality and time of day). (4) In contrast to the effects of caffeine consumption, withdrawal of caffeine has few effects on performance. There is often an increase in negative mood following withdrawal of caffeine, but such effects may largely reflect the expectancies of the volunteers and the failure to conduct “blind” studies. (5) Regular caffeine usage appears to be beneficial, with higher users having better mental functioning. (6) Most people are very good at controlling their caffeine consumption to maximise the above positive effects. [/quote]
like thats all positive and it's half of what they linked, the only bad things being that it can increase anxiety in people sensitive to it or at high doses, and could possible impair fine motor skills.
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[QUOTE=Laserbeams;43621304]There are healthier forms of caffeine than energy drinks out there though[/QUOTE]
how are energy drinks unhealthy? i don't get it, they cost more and are consumed less than soda, which usually has no nutritional value except calories and yet energy drinks are always called out by people.
They sell smaller cans of Monster Energy at my college and they're pretty expensive. Down the road though you can get the big ones for like a quid in a mom-and-pop corner-shop.
I sometimes have one if I'm feeling absolutely shit, and sometimes because I actually like the taste. Normally I just stick with coca-cola/Dr Pepper.
[QUOTE=benbb;43621687]They sell smaller cans of Monster Energy at my college and they're pretty expensive. Down the road though you can get the big ones for like a quid in a mom-and-pop corner-shop.
I sometimes have one if I'm feeling absolutely shit, and sometimes because I actually like the taste. Normally I just stick with coca-cola/Dr Pepper.[/QUOTE]
They sell 250ml cans at Wetherspoons, look like this:
[img]http://www.40ouncebeer.com/pictsenergydrinks/monsterrippercans.jpg[/img]
fuck that shit, I love energy drinks I dont think people are ' allowed ' to drink them in my school per say but no one gives a fuck
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