"Revenge porn" site operator sentenced to 18 years in prison

[Shwoop]

[QUOTE=Starlight 456;47457558]Nah, fuck 'em, he's violating people's privacy in a absolutely vile way and charging exorbitant prices to take it down

He could ruin peoples lives with this kind of shit with harassment it could cause if someone recognized them in the picture.[/QUOTE]

Who's to say the revenge porn wasn't posted on somebody who ruined their partners life? It's a dog eat dog world

[Govna]

[QUOTE=sasherz;47458365]Your lack of empathy and spite for another human being is disturbing. He's in jail for a period longer than most people viewing this post have been alive and longer than some murderers, rapists, and drunk drivers.
He's a shitbag who took advantage of desperate people, but he doesn't deserve to have his life essentially ruined for it. For most of the victims of this site, those pictures will probably never be seen again now that it is taken down. For those whose pictures are in circulation, they will cease to be relevant in 3-7 years when they inevitably look different and might at the very greatest be vaguely recognized by some as looking like a nude image they saw randomly online a few years ago.
He took the entirety of a punishment that should have been dealt out to everyone involved with the distribution of those pictures.[/QUOTE]

"He's a shitbag who has no empathy and had no problem ruining people's lives and extorting money from them, but you should still feel empathy for him."

This has got to be one of the most naive posts I've ever read.

Why should I feel empathy for someone who has no empathy in the first place? What thought process did you run through your brain that told you this is a good idea?

You don't show empathy for people who don't have it. Especially when those people are criminals who have demonstrably proven that they're more than willing to hurt you and take advantage of you. If you show them empathy, then they [i]will[/I] take advantage of you.

How does anyone reach the conclusion that it's a good idea to feel sorry for people like this? Again, is it just that you secrety sympathize and can relate to what he was doing, or are you genuinely that much of a naive feelsb4reals person who has excessive empathy and who believes love will fix everything that's wrong in society... or what?

Seriously dude, Kevin Bollaert is a real-life sociopath who'd have no issue fucking you or me or anyone else over if he thought he could get away with it and would not care a damn how badly he hurt us. There's no reason to have empathy for him when he clearly has none.

[Starlight 456]

[QUOTE=BazzBerry;47458807]Who's to say the revenge porn wasn't posted on somebody who ruined their partners life? It's a dog eat dog world[/QUOTE]

That's not an excuse, it's sinking to their level.

[ShaunOfTheLive]

[QUOTE=Melnek;47457733]whats funny is that those kind of jokes are still hilarious to fp and are still posted in lmao pics but god forbid someone makes a joke about rape because thats pushing it too far apperently[/QUOTE]

In a way, Holocaust jokes aren't as bad because they're about something that happened in the past, something that's now pretty "ridiculous" to the modern world, in the sense that we couldn't imagine it ever happening again. On the other hand, prison rape jokes are about something that still happens, something that could actually happen to this guy and someone's joking about it. It's the difference between ridiculing humanity's past behaviour and trivializing/excusing humanity's current behaviour.

[itisjuly]

[QUOTE=Starlight 456;47458942]That's not an excuse, it's sinking to their level.[/QUOTE]
Moral high ground leaves you in the dust.

[AxeI]

[QUOTE=ShaunOfTheLive;47459000]In a way, Holocaust jokes aren't as bad because they're about something that happened in the past, something that's now pretty "ridiculous" to the modern world, in the sense that we couldn't imagine it ever happening again. On the other hand, prison rape jokes are about something that still happens, something that could actually happen to this guy and someone's joking about it. It's the difference between ridiculing humanity's past behaviour and trivializing/excusing humanity's current behaviour.[/QUOTE]
Meh, there are jokes about terrorism and 9/11 that I don't believe are worse than those about the holocaust, and yet these events are quite fresh in our mind with many people suffering from their consequences.

[Used Car Salesm]

The entire operation was designed to victimize and extort women. I honestly have no sympathy.

[Cold]

I think there is a severe lack of attention for the individuals who actually uploaded the pictures.

[editline]5th April 2015[/editline]

[QUOTE=Starlight 456;47457717]I have a strong belief that sexual crimes are some of the worst due to the mental cost for the victims. Even something like this could be painful and terrifying (what if someone recognizes you and tells your employer/abusive ex-boyfriend/conservative parents).

I will agree it's definitely not as bad as actual physical rape, but it's still pretty horrible.[/QUOTE]

Anything from getting something stolen from you, to getting tortured can have extremely varying mental consequences in certain cases.

I know a guy who ended up moving in with the person who raped him. There are people who openly talk about getting stabbed or getting tortured, or getting sexually abused.

On the other hand there are people who develop life changing phobias, or mental illnesses, after having something stolen from them, or minor abuse cases.

[DrTaxi]

It's kind of weird how extorting his victims makes us consider this guy's actions even more morally reprehensible, while at the same time it was probably less damaging than not taking down anything would have been.

I mean, if someone posted nude pictures of you without your permission, wouldn't you rather they take them down if you give them money, than have no way of getting them taken down at all (barring legal action, which is equally easy or difficult in both cases)?

I'm not defending this guy, and "being less of an asshole" was obviously not the reason he made that offer, but it feels strange anyway.

[Blue Meanie]

[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;47457071]Why do people think it's normal to poke fun at prison sexual abuse???[/QUOTE]

Honestly I hope he fucking dies in prison.

[wauterboi]

[QUOTE=Blue Meanie;47460833]Because scumbags like this deserve to be molested. You don't know the emotional toll it can take on someone to have that kind of stuff of you posted if you don't want it.

Honestly I hope he fucking dies in prison.[/QUOTE]
And all I'm gonna say is you want someone to die in prison.

Take a step back and think about what you're actually suggesting.

[Blue Meanie]

[QUOTE=wauterboi;47461138]And all I'm gonna say is you want someone to die in prison.

Take a step back and think about what you're actually suggesting.[/QUOTE]
eh, rate me dumb all you want, he should die.

[AxeI]

Wanting a murderer to die is understandable, even if I strongly disagree with that sentiment.
But thinking someone who didn't even kill anybody should die? That's definitely fucked up.

[Fulgrim]

[QUOTE=BazzBerry;47458807]Who's to say the revenge porn wasn't posted on somebody who ruined their partners life? It's a dog eat dog world[/QUOTE]

Why would that even matter exactly?, why would you even go so far as to invent a little hypothetical scenario where these women could just be getting what they deserved from jilted ex lovers?.

Im noticing a pretty creepy pattern in the fact that people only say shit like this when it comes to sexual harassment or rape. Whenever someone gets charged for murder or burglary we don't sit around saying "Whos to say the guy he killed/robbed didn't fuck the killer/robber over at some point in the past?, he might have deserved it!? you never know!"

[cecilbdemodded]

This guy was sentenced to jail, not prison. In California, if you can pay the rate, you can choose the jail where you serve your time. This is a big advantage to the wealthy when they get sentenced to jail, since not all areas of California are densely populated, gang infested areas with overflowing jails.

Assuming this guy made some money, he's going to do his time in some relatively quiet jail, probably up north.

[Shwoop]

[QUOTE=fulgrim;47461817]Why would that even matter exactly?, why would you even go so far as to invent a little hypothetical scenario where these women could just be getting what they deserved from jilted ex lovers?.

Im noticing a pretty creepy pattern in the fact that people only say shit like this when it comes to sexual harassment or rape. Whenever someone gets charged for murder or burglary we don't sit around saying "Whos to say the guy he killed/robbed didn't fuck the killer/robber over at some point in the past?, he might have deserved it!? you never know!"[/QUOTE]

[quote]He could ruin peoples lives with this kind of shit with harassment it could cause if someone recognized them in the picture.[/quote].

It's called [I]revenge[/I] porn for a reason. Obviously the person being posted is not innocent; at least, that was the intent of the whole site. They'd have to pay for whatever they did.

It is sick and disgusting, I agree, and I'd never stoop to this level, but there are scenarios that I wouldn't be like "wow what a scumbag" that I know of. Some people are complete fucking asshats and have earned this treatment. That was the whole point of [I]revenge[/I] porn. Although the way the post describes it people are doing it simply because they broke up with them - that's stupid. My friends (now ex) girlfriend had sex with [I]both[/I] of his brothers. This is a situation where I wouldn't be totally disgusted by revenge porn, and this is where the idea of revenge porn stemmed from (or so I thought), not because "oh my god she broke up with me qq"

[Mingebox]

[QUOTE=BazzBerry;47458807]Who's to say the revenge porn wasn't posted on somebody who ruined their partners life? It's a dog eat dog world[/QUOTE]
Who? Well anyone who's not a creep, for starters.

[Menien Goneld]

Why does FP get all creepy when it comes to these stories?

Threads about young men and women leaving their country to join ISIS: "Don't come back! Nothing of value has been lost here!"

Threads about capital punishment/long sentences where people think we may as well just execute them: "Ugh, you fucking bleeding heart liberals, this person is not human anymore! Don't you see?! We gotta put them down like the dogs they are"

Guy is sentenced to 18 years in prison with fines for extorting multiple women with their stolen private pictures: "Why don't you guys have any EMPATHY? It's called revenge porn for a reason! Those damn females probably had it coming!"

[Fulgrim]

[QUOTE=BazzBerry;47464834].

It's called [I]revenge[/I] porn for a reason. Obviously the person being posted is not innocent; at least, that was the intent of the whole site. They'd have to pay for whatever they did.

It is sick and disgusting, I agree, and I'd never stoop to this level, but there are scenarios that I wouldn't be like "wow what a scumbag" that I know of. Some people are complete fucking asshats and have earned this treatment. That was the whole point of [I]revenge[/I] porn. Although the way the post describes it people are doing it simply because they broke up with them - that's stupid. My friends (now ex) girlfriend had sex with [I]both[/I] of his brothers. This is a situation where I wouldn't be totally disgusted by revenge porn, and this is where the idea of revenge porn stemmed from (or so I thought), not because "oh my god she broke up with me qq"[/QUOTE]

Yeah, the general term "revenge porn" has always meant "revenge for dumping me".

im not saying its [i] never[/i] been done to someone for doing something "worse" than breaking up with their partner, im saying it doesn't matter- its weird to even consider whether or not the victim in a sex crime ~"deserved it"~ because it implies a situation exists where its okay to do something like this.

[Big D Duchovny]

[QUOTE=ShaunOfTheLive;47459000]In a way, Holocaust jokes aren't as bad because they're about something that happened in the past, something that's now pretty "ridiculous" to the modern world, in the sense that we couldn't imagine it ever happening again. On the other hand, prison rape jokes are about something that still happens, something that could actually happen to this guy and someone's joking about it. It's the difference between ridiculing humanity's past behaviour and trivializing/excusing humanity's current behaviour.[/QUOTE]

Yeah no this is a bad justification:
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_Genocide[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_Genocide[/url]
Unless you're being very specific meaning the exact way the nazis did it.

In my opinion, everything is fair game in satire. Doesn't mean you should make a joke about rape when you have a rape victim next to you, and perhaps you should consider whether your jokes might be offensive or not. Doesn't mean you have limit yourself in any way, that's just a choice.

[itisjuly]

[QUOTE=GoDong-DK;47467943]Yeah no this is a bad justification:
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rwandan_Genocide[/url]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bosnian_Genocide[/url]
Unless you're being very specific meaning the exact way the nazis did it.

In my opinion, everything is fair game in satire. Doesn't mean you should make a joke about rape when you have a rape victim next to you, and perhaps you should consider whether your jokes might be offensive or not. Doesn't mean you have limit yourself in any way, that's just a choice.[/QUOTE]
I personally go by the idea that if a joke is potentially great, it should be told, no matter how offensive to some. If, on the other hand, it isn't that good, you should probably refrain from telling it.

[Tools]

[QUOTE=Rofl my Waff;47457071]Why do people think it's normal to poke fun at prison sexual abuse???[/QUOTE]

Since when's people started wearing so high hats that they've gotta defend even ones in prison, who's committed crime and judged unfit for society?
So high hats in fact that they fly straight past the joke of irony, just to show up on a white horse as the public defender of the weak.

Nor did my post even indicate sexual assault but everyone's apparently got their heads so far up their own asses that anything sexual occurring in prison's apparently rape.

[AxeI]

[QUOTE=Tools;47468001]Since when's people started wearing so high hats that they've gotta defend even ones in prison, who's committed crime and judged unfit for society?[/QUOTE]
While I'm of the opinion that we should be allowed to joke about anything, I don't think people being in prison warrants the denial of their rights. Even people who committed the worst atrocities can fall victim to unfair treatment, and to pretend we can't defend them against them is hypocritical when the reason they were put in there in the first place is because we care for the rights of others.