[QUOTE=catbarf;38250354]This is the same underlying ethos behind Zombie Squad and other zombie-themed disaster preparedness groups: If you're ready for the end of the world where power, food, and water will never come back and the streets are full of death, you're ready for any real-world disaster. The zombie theme is more spice than anything else, because designing a bug-out bag for the zombie apocalypse is more interesting than designing a bug-out bag for flooding.
Although the idea of a real-world zombie apocalypse is not possible for a number of reasons and people who actually take this seriously are missing the point.[/QUOTE]
When you think about it, survival training centered around Zombie Apocalypse [I]is[/I] the ultimate survival course. It has everything; avoiding infection, avoiding contact and being careful about unknown people, staying hidden and quiet, how to remain unseen, choosing good short-, or long term places to fortify in, learning to life off the land and get clean water. Fucking everything essential for very bad scenarios like invasion of anysort.
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;38247819][img]http://memearchive.net/memerial.net/3376/zombies-are-impossible.jpg[/img]
[editline]30th October 2012[/editline]
idk why i poste this i thought it was relevant[/QUOTE]
kind of ironic since [URL="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1o-9EWGbjQ"]he literally said fast zombies were gay[/URL]
[QUOTE=Axznma;38251430]The classic zombie has always struck me as being outside those rules due to their supernatural heritage. They're dead things risen to undead life, and it is either straight out said to be supernatural or strongly hinted (if only for a lack of wanting to create a scientific reason). I just chock it up to magic since that's about as far an explanation as the classic zombies got anyway.[/QUOTE]
True, but that's why the Zombie Survival Guide is silly, it tries to explain zombies biologically.
They better film it.
[QUOTE=DarkMonkey;38248317]So uh
How the fuck [I]do[/I] you prepare for a ghost attack?,[/QUOTE]
Just train to not cross the streams
[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;38247372]Before anyone says "this is totally useless"...
Well you're right, but that doesn't mean it isn't awesome or fun.[/QUOTE]
It's actually not. It's good training for a large number of other situations, heavy riot, infectious diseases and similar. It's just packaged as zombies.
[QUOTE=Axznma;38251430]The classic zombie has always struck me as being outside those rules due to their supernatural heritage. They're dead things risen to undead life, and it is either straight out said to be supernatural or strongly hinted (if only for a lack of wanting to create a scientific reason). I just chock it up to magic since that's about as far an explanation as the classic zombies got anyway.[/QUOTE]
World War Z zombies were plain stupid to be honest. Not just from a biological standpoint. The entire book was actually an excercise of - author has no idea how things are actually deadly and strong and claims his view as fact, which then gets parroted by huge number of people who believe the authors view is fact.
The way artillery was portrayed still irks me to this day for instance.
[QUOTE=catbarf;38250728]Eh, not really, for a number of reasons. Even if it was, people acting psychotically aggressive before shortly dying of exhaustion and dehydration would be much less of a threat than movies depict, let alone one that could cause the end of the world as we know it.
Zombies aren't a plausible threat, even hypothetically. They're used in fiction as a metaphor for societal ills, just as they're used here as a metaphor for disaster preparedness. As a metaphor they're great, but when people turn the focus to zombies specifically, they're missing the point.[/QUOTE]
Lets just leave it at, damn mother nature you scary. Mainly because we don't know what she'll do.
[QUOTE=catbarf;38253351]True, but that's why the Zombie Survival Guide is silly, it tries to explain zombies biologically.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=wraithcat;38254697]World War Z zombies were plain stupid to be honest. Not just from a biological standpoint. The entire book was actually an excercise of - author has no idea how things are actually deadly and strong and claims his view as fact, which then gets parroted by huge number of people who believe the authors view is fact.[/QUOTE]
Oh I'm not disagreeing with that. I was just referring to the general "[I]zombies couldn't really exist because scientific reasons x, y, and z[/I]" arguments. Not that I'm arguing for their existence, just that I see them as magical/supernatural in nature and thus disregard the "scientific facts" of the mythos.
There's poking fun at the idea -- having good natured discussion; and then becoming annoyingly insistent at proving a fictional creation can't exist; the latter are the kind of people I tend to zone out, least as far as classical zombies go.
There could come a time when a deadly virus is spreading and killing people and you may have to basically treat people as if they're zombies
Better hope someone with Ebola doesn't manage to hop on a plane, or we are all fucked
[QUOTE=wraithcat;38254697]It's actually not. It's good training for a large number of other situations, heavy riot, infectious diseases and similar. It's just packaged as zombies.
World War Z zombies were plain stupid to be honest. Not just from a biological standpoint. The entire book was actually an excercise of - author has no idea how things are actually deadly and strong and claims his view as fact, which then gets parroted by huge number of people who believe the authors view is fact.
The way artillery was portrayed still irks me to this day for instance.[/QUOTE]
I remember reading about the tanks and how canister shells basically ripped their lungs out, but I don't recall any mention about artillery. I could have missed that part, and I fucking love artillery, I need to know how much it was fucked up.
[QUOTE=wraithcat;38254697]It's actually not. It's good training for a large number of other situations, heavy riot, infectious diseases and similar. It's just packaged as zombies.
World War Z zombies were plain stupid to be honest. Not just from a biological standpoint. The entire book was actually an excercise of - author has no idea how things are actually deadly and strong and claims his view as fact, which then gets parroted by huge number of people who believe the authors view is fact.
The way artillery was portrayed still irks me to this day for instance.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, the artillery should have been able to paste their brains from shock alone.
[QUOTE=TheTalon;38271469]There could come a time when a deadly virus is spreading and killing people and you may have to basically treat people as if they're zombies
Better hope someone with Ebola doesn't manage to hop on a plane, or we are all fucked[/QUOTE]
Except Ebola doesn't lead to "BRAAAAINSS" it tends to lean more towards "OH GOD MY ORGANS ARE MELTING BLOOD IS SPEWING FROM EVERY ORIFICE IN MY BODY HELP HELP HELP HELP"
Ebola-stricken people would more be you know, victims, and not the aggressors.
[QUOTE=Roger Waters;38273296]Except Ebola doesn't lead to "BRAAAAINSS" it tends to lean more towards "OH GOD MY ORGANS ARE MELTING BLOOD IS SPEWING FROM EVERY ORIFICE IN MY BODY HELP HELP HELP HELP"
Ebola-stricken people would more be you know, victims, and not the aggressors.[/QUOTE]
I think what he means is something with the virulence of Ebola and the effects of Rabies, that would be scary shit.
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;38273312]I think what he means is something with the virulence of Ebola and the effects of Rabies, that would be scary shit.[/QUOTE]
That would look much more like a plague scenario than a zombie outbreak. Rabies doesn't make people act like zombies.
[QUOTE=catbarf;38273397]That would look much more like a plague scenario than a zombie outbreak. Rabies doesn't make people act like zombies.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I'm talking the 28 days later kind of infected/zombies.
man
I don't get how zombies don't get old for me
they're overdone as shit and have been for years, and yet
they know something...
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;38273312]I think what he means is something with the virulence of Ebola and the effects of Rabies, that would be scary shit.[/QUOTE]
Ebola alone is scary shit. Although it tends to incapacitate and kill people extremely quickly, which kind of puts a damper on its otherwise ridiculous level of infectiousness.
[QUOTE=Pierrewithahat;38273407]Yeah I'm talking the 28 days later kind of infected/zombies.[/QUOTE]
I know. Rabies doesn't do that. It makes people act crazy and excessively violent, yes, but not the kind of single-minded homicidal rage against anything not infected that would be necessary for 28 Days-style zombies. There are just so many hurdles necessary with the very specific behavior associated with zombies for it to be implausible even as a designed disease. Ignoring other infected, infecting rather than simply killing, being so focused on spreading the infection, full suppression of higher brain functions, et cetera.
