Man Charged With Fondling Girl At Baltimore Church
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Pedophiles are the new homosexual, watch this and replace the word homosexual with pedophile.
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4enfUyGWSY&feature=related[/media]
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[QUOTE=faze;19466882]You are born that way, it's genetic. Read up on it. Part of your DNA is actually a different color from a straight person's if you're homosexual.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=lmaoboat;19466914]If you suddenly can't see anything, that's because your tower of boxes has collapsed on you.[/QUOTE]
I never said it was something done at the drop of a hat. Its something you grow into and become. Is bisexuality a different gene colour too? Transsexuals? All the other weird, rather unnatural sexual orientations we've come to accept in society?
I fucking doubt it. But I can easily believe that someone grew up in a type of lifestyle where he came to find men more appealing than women, or vice-versa, or both, for whatever reason.
I'm wondering why a registered sex offender was hired by the pastor. :catholic::hf::pedo:
Seriously though, if the pastor knew about his past, maybe he could have referred him to other places to get work. Places where children wouldn't be within arm's reach. If the pastor didn't know, well, I spose he knows now :ohdear:
She was in a church, so it was only a matter of time before the fondling began.
[QUOTE=faze;19466990][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biology_and_sexual_orientation[/url]
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[QUOTE=wiki] Criticisms
Twin studies have received a number of criticisms including self-selection bias where homosexuals with gay siblings are more likely to volunteer for studies. Nonetheless, it is possible to conclude that, given the difference in sexuality in so many sets of identical twins (who are genetically identical), sexual orientation cannot be purely caused by genetics.[9]
The conclusion, that sexual attraction, whether same-sex or opposite-sex oriented, operates similarly on a biological level, does not mean that there is necessarily a biological cause for homosexuality. Researchers have suggested that this possibility could be further explored by studying young subjects to see if similar responses in the hypothalamus are found and then correlating this data with adult sexual orientation.[citation needed]
Chromosome linkage studies of sexual orientation have indicated the presence of multiple contributing genetic factors throughout the genome. In 1993, Dean Hamer and colleagues published findings from a linkage analysis of a sample of 76 gay brothers and their families.[12] Hamer et al. found that the gay men had more gay male uncles and cousins on the maternal side of the family than on the paternal side. Gay brothers who showed this maternal pedigree were then tested for X chromosome linkage, using twenty-two markers on the X chromosome to test for similar alleles. In another finding, thirty-three of the forty sibling pairs tested were found to have similar alleles in the distal region of Xq28, which was significantly higher than the expected rates of 50% for fraternal brothers. This was popularly (but inaccurately) dubbed as the 'gay gene' in the media, causing significant controversy.
A later analysis by Hu et al. replicated and refined these findings. This study revealed that 67% of gay brothers in a new saturated sample shared a marker on the X chromosome at Xq28.[13] Sanders et al. (1998) replicated the study, finding 66% Xq28 marker sharing in 54 pairs of gay brothers.[14] Although two other studies (Bailey et al., 1999; McKnight and Malcolm, 2000) failed to find a preponderance of gay relatives in the maternal line of homosexual men[14], a rigorous replication of the maternal loading was reported on samples in Italy in England. One study by Rice et al. in 1999 failed to replicate the Xq28 linkage results.[15] Meta-analysis of all available linkage data indicates a significant link to Xq28, but also indicates that additional genes must be present to account for the full heritability of sexual orientation.
Mustanski et al. (2005) performed a full-genome scan (instead of just an X chromosome scan) on individuals and families previously reported on in Hamer et al. (1993) and Hu et al. (1995), as well as additional new subjects.[16] With the larger sample set and complete genome scan, the study found somewhat reduced linkage for Xq28 than reported by Hamer et al. However, they did find other markers with significant likelihood scores at 8p12, 7q36 and 10q26. Interestingly, one of the links showed highly significant maternal loading, thus further confirming the previous family studies.
[edit]Epigenetics studies
A recent study suggests linkage between a mother's genetic make-up and homosexuality of her sons. Women have two X chromosomes, one of which is "switched off". The inactivation of the X chromosome occurs randomly throughout the embryo, resulting in cells that are mosaic with respect to which chromosome is active. In some cases though, it appears that this switching off can occur in a non-random fashion. Bocklandt et al. (2006) reported that, in mothers of homosexual men, the number of women with extreme skewing of X chromosome inactivation is significantly higher than in mothers without gay sons. Thirteen percent of mothers with one gay son, and 23% of mothers with two gay sons showed extreme skewing, compared to 4% percent of mothers without gay sons.[17] [/QUOTE]
It appears as though your link has turned against you.
[QUOTE=Exploits;19466868]Homosexuality's also learned, dude.
You aren't "born" gay, even if it looks like it.[/QUOTE]
If you rated this post agree and you're not trolling, go fucking kill yourself.
[QUOTE=lmaoboat;19466997]Okay, go be gay right now. Go ahead, I'm waiting. If you can't get a raging boner from men in five minutes, you're wrong.[/QUOTE]
Also, you're an idiot because it is common knowledge that sexual orientation cannot be changed "at will" in a short period of time. However, that does not mean that it is genetic and that you are born that way.
Let me set the record straight: I have NOTHING against homosexuality. I believe it is acceptable and homosexuals should be treated and regarded equally. I do not, however, think that homosexuality is cause by genetics.
[QUOTE=melonmonkey;19475736]Also, you're an idiot because it is common knowledge that sexual orientation cannot be changed "at will" in a short period of time. However, that does not mean that it is genetic and that you are born that way.[/QUOTE]
You do realize that there are gay animals right?
[QUOTE=CommieTurtle;19475762]You do realize that there are gay animals right?[/QUOTE]
How does that validate the idea that sexual orientation can be changed in a short period of time?
[QUOTE=melonmonkey;19475789]How does that validate the idea that sexual orientation can be changed in a short period of time?[/QUOTE]
I'm not saying it does. I'm saying you're an idiot for thinking that being gay isn't genetic even though homosexual behavior has been observed in around 1500 different species.
anyone surprised that this happened in a church?
the sad part is, shit like this happens all the time and is not reported
save a child's bootyhole, become an atheist
[QUOTE=CommieTurtle;19475829]I'm not saying it does. I'm saying you're an idiot for thinking that being gay isn't genetic even though homosexual behavior has been observed in around 1500 different species.[/QUOTE]
So you're attempting to claim that animals have absolutely no way of changing their sexual orientation? Or are you claiming that if sexual orientation isn't genetic it is changed by your mind?
Boys who grow up without a father have have a relatively higher rate of homosexuality than boys who grow up with a father. The point I'm making here is that environmental factors, especially in youth, have a dramatic effect on sexual orientation in humans.
[QUOTE=KestasLT;19467136]But in that way, it goes against nature.[/QUOTE]
no, that's how nature works. you do know that animals in nature show up gay too right?
[QUOTE=melonmonkey;19475899]So you're attempting to claim that animals have absolutely no way of changing their sexual orientation? Or are you claiming that if sexual orientation isn't genetic it is changed by your mind?
Boys who grow up without a father have have a relatively higher rate of homosexuality than boys who grow up with a father. The point I'm making here is that environmental factors, especially in youth, have a dramatic effect on sexual orientation in humans.[/QUOTE]
no doubt, social sciences are at times a hard time to predict
but correlation does not equal causation and i am confident to say that while environmental factors may have a factor in sexuality (as environmental factors play a role in most things), genetics play a larger role
[QUOTE=melonmonkey;19475899]So you're attempting to claim that animals have absolutely no way of changing their sexual orientation? Or are you claiming that if sexual orientation isn't genetic it is changed by your mind?
Boys who grow up without a father have have a relatively higher rate of homosexuality than boys who grow up with a father. The point I'm making here is that environmental factors, especially in youth, have a dramatic effect on sexual orientation in humans.[/QUOTE]
I believe I made it quite obvious that I'm saying that truly changing a sexual orientation you're born with is quite impossible.
Sauce me on that last statement you made.
[QUOTE=siberpredaht;19476041]no doubt, social sciences are at times a hard time to predict
but correlation does not equal causation and i am confident to say that while environmental factors may have a factor in sexuality (as environmental factors play a role in most things), genetics play a larger role[/QUOTE]
Couldn't agree more.
this thread is full of so much bigotry and ignorance I'm not even going to dip my toes in
I like where this thread is going.
[QUOTE=siberpredaht;19475893]anyone surprised that this happened in a church?
the sad part is, shit like this happens all the time and is not reported
save a child's bootyhole, become an atheist[/QUOTE]
Funfact: The catholic church released an official document saying that if you were caught in the act of tickling little Jimmy's fancy that you should try to keep the family quiet.
[QUOTE=siberpredaht;19476041]no doubt, social sciences are at times a hard time to predict
but correlation does not equal causation and i am confident to say that while environmental factors may have a factor in sexuality (as environmental factors play a role in most things), genetics play a larger role[/QUOTE]
Did no one look at that wiki post that had several studies on genetics and homosexuality that said genetics is not the cause?
[QUOTE=melonmonkey;19476273]Did no one look at that [B]wiki[/B] post that had several studies on genetics and homosexuality that said genetics is not the cause?[/QUOTE]
oh, if you're referring to that piss poor excuse for an article on the main page half way down - simply look at the rest of the site; it is an ultraconservative right wing webpage with an obvious religious agenda
[QUOTE=KestasLT;19466819]Oh yeah so pedophiles should be shot but gay people are ok[/QUOTE]
Yeah, that sounds about right. Moron.
On topic: Why did he get charged with second degree assault? I mean all of the other charges at least have some basis for why they are being charged, albeit grossly exaggerated, but assault? Really?
[QUOTE=melonmonkey;19476273]Did no one look at that wiki post that had several studies on genetics and homosexuality that said genetics is not the cause?[/QUOTE]
Nope!
[QUOTE=melonmonkey;19476273]Did no one look at that wiki post that had several studies on genetics and homosexuality that said genetics is not the cause?[/QUOTE]
Not once in that post did I see anything that came close to providing a cut and dry answer.
[QUOTE=CommieTurtle;19476095]I believe I made it quite obvious that I'm saying that truly changing a sexual orientation you're born with is quite impossible.
Sauce me on that last statement you made.
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I couldn't find the study I looked at before linking growing up without a father and homosexuality, but I did find this
[url]http://www.narth.com/docs/fathers.html[/url]
Which links several developmental factors to homosexuality.
Now, can I have sauce on over 1500 different species of animals being seen exhibiting homosexual characteristics?
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[QUOTE=siberpredaht;19476286]oh, if you're referring to that piss poor excuse for an article on the main page half way down - simply look at the rest of the site; it is an ultraconservative right wing webpage with an obvious religious agenda[/QUOTE]
Then I would like to see YOUR proof that homosexuality is genetic and that definitively shows that it is not simply a correlation between the genes and homosexuality.
[QUOTE=melonmonkey;19476420]I couldn't find the study I looked at before linking growing up without a father and homosexuality, but I did find this
[url]http://www.narth.com/docs/fathers.html[/url]
Which links several developmental factors to homosexuality.
Now, can I have sauce on over 1500 different species of animals being seen exhibiting homosexual characteristics?
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Then I would like to see YOUR proof that homosexuality is genetic and that definitively shows that it is not simply a correlation between the genes and homosexuality.[/QUOTE]
[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals[/url]
[QUOTE=CommieTurtle;19476465][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals[/url][/QUOTE]
Fair enough, but I still fail to see that as cut and dry evidence that homosexuality in humans is genetic and not caused in any way by environmental factors.
[QUOTE=melonmonkey;19476519]Fair enough, but I still fail to see that as cut and dry evidence that homosexuality in humans is genetic and not caused in any way by environmental factors.[/QUOTE]
as said, i didn't disagree with you when you said that environmental factors may have an affect on sexual orientation. i just said that i believe it pales in comparison to genetics
[QUOTE=siberpredaht;19476587]as said, i didn't disagree with you when you said that environmental factors may have an affect on sexual orientation. i just said that i believe it pales in comparison to genetics[/QUOTE]
I respect that and appreciate you accepting the possibility of environmental factors having an affect on sexual orientation. If you don't mind I would like to learn your logic as to why environmental factors pale in comparison to genetics, preferably with a citable source. I just like discussing these things :D.
[QUOTE=melonmonkey;19476519]Fair enough, but I still fail to see that as cut and dry evidence that homosexuality in humans is genetic and not caused in any way by environmental factors.[/QUOTE]
Humans are still animals whether or not we have a psyche. If it affects 1500 other species genetically, why would it make sense to say that it isn't genetic in any way in humans?
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